H/P Doomsday v.s. Thanos

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
What?

1. Darkseid hit Doomsday with ONE blast, which sent him flying and buried him under rubbled

2. Darkseid strolled over to Doomsday's body (which appeared to be a good distance away), made a somewhat long-winded speech ("at the feet of Darkseid" being the end of that speech), melted the rubble with a heat beam, and walked away

3. After the melted rubble had dried and become integrated into the ground, effectively "burying" Doomsday, he bursted out, grunting as he crawled out of the ground.

Doomsday was clearly incapacitated until after Darkseid had walked away, at which point he recovered.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
What?

1. Darkseid hit Doomsday with ONE blast, which sent him flying and buried him under rubbled

2. Darkseid strolled over to Doomsday's body (which appeared to be a good distance away), made a somewhat long-winded speech ("at the feet of Darkseid" being the end of that speech), melted the rubble with a heat beam, and walked away

3. After the melted rubble had dried and become integrated into the ground, effectively "burying" Doomsday, he bursted out, grunting as he crawled out of the ground.

Doomsday was clearly incapacitated until after Darkseid had walked away, at which point he recovered.

Darkseid blindsides DD with a blast of Omega, rubble falls over DD, Darky blasts DD with a second shot of Omega, Darky stops his little blasting rampage, and only has enough time to say "at the feet of Darkseid", before DD has already busted out of the rubble.

Originally posted by Galan007
You've read that story huh?

Darkseid blindsides DD with a blast of Omega, rubble falls over DD, Darky blasts DD with a second shot of Omega, Darky stops his little blasting rampage, and only has enough time to say "at the feet of Darkseid", before DD has already busted out of the rubble.

I want to call your attention to how far the omega beams travel when they hit DD. Now call into your attention the fact that DS walks over to DS casually. And also call to your attention that no where else in the history of DD does an energy blast do anything like that to him.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now call into your attention the fact that DS walks over to DS casually.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And also call to your attention that no where else in the history of DD does an energy blast do anything like that to him.

I know y'all like Darky and everything, but let's not make this more than it was. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
You've read that story huh?

Yes and I've posted the scans before.

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Darkseid blindsides DD with a blast of Omega, rubble falls over DD, Darky blasts DD with a second shot of Omega,

You mean he melts the rubble over Doomsday in order to bury him. It was not a force blast. It was a heat blast designed not to hurt Doomsday but to give him a tomb. I guess you can factor it in as a heat attack, but he wasn't directly attacking Doomsday.

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Darky stops his little blasting rampage, and only has enough time to say "at the feet of Darkseid", before DD has already busted out of the rubble.

He walks away, the molten rubble solidifies into the ground, then Doomsday gets up, grunting as he does so. Do you think all that molten material dried instantaneously?

And seriously, "blasting rampage?" Since when is casually strolling over to someone's motionless body, making a speech, melting some rubble they're buried under, and power walking away a "blasting rampage?"

Doomsday was down long enough that he would've been counted out if it were a boxing match.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Yes and I've posted the scans before.

You mean he melts the rubble over Doomsday in order to bury him. It was not a force blast. It was a heat blast designed not to hurt Doomsday but to give him a tomb. I guess you can factor it in as a heat attack, but he wasn't directly attacking Doomsday.

He walks away, the molten rubble solidifies into the ground, then Doomsday gets up, grunting as he does so. Do you think all that molten material dried instantaneously?

And seriously, "blasting rampage?" Since when is casually strolling over to someone's motionless body, making a speech, melting some rubble they're buried under, and power walking away a "blasting rampage?"

Doomsday was down long enough that he would've been counted out if it were a boxing match.

Originally posted by Galan007
Seeing as how Darkseid got to DD's location as rubble was still falling -- I'd say he was there pretty quick. 😊

There is absolutely no rubble falling on the panel where Darkseid is shown emerging from the smoke. There is rubble falling in the previous panel, but panels don't = time. The distance from one panel to another can be less than one second or more than 30 seconds.

The biggest indicator we have of how fast Darkseid got there is the fact that he's drawn casually powerwalking to and from Doomsday in no rush whatsoever. And there's the fact that he was a few stories up and many yards away when he delivered the blast, which sent Doomsday flying even farther away.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ahhh,
Yet another Darky fanatic... In that case, [/discussion]. 😊

Oh, come, Galan. You're better than that. 😛.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ahhh,
Yet another Darky fanatic... In that case, [/discussion]. 😊

I'm not the one who just claimed something not shown in the story (rubble falling as Darkseid arrived at Doomsday's body). All I've done is point out obvious facts (the panel showing the rubble had re-solidified, the fact that Darkseid was obviously not walking in a hurry, the lengthy speech) to establish a rough estimate of how long Doomsday was down. In general, if someone has the time to stand over your body and make a speech while you're not even moving, I consider you incapacitated.

But yes, if you want to resort to a logical fallacy (ad hominem) as an out from a civilized debate, feel free to do so.

Originally posted by Soljer
Oh, come, Galan. You're better than that. 😛.

I don't really feel like getting into on of those 'circle-forming' kind of debates today. 😛

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
But yes, if you want to resort to a logical fallacy (ad hominem) as an out from a civilized debate, feel free to do so.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
All I've done is point out obvious facts (the panel showing the rubble had re-solidified, the fact that Darkseid was obviously not walking in a hurry, the lengthy speech) to establish a rough estimate of how long Doomsday was down. In general, if someone has the time to stand over your body and make a speech while you're not even moving, I consider you incapacitated.

Anyhow,
What you're really doing is speculating on how long YOU felt it took Darky to get over to DD's location.

That is one of the many reasons I said, "[/discussion]." 😊

Originally posted by Galan007
Did that hurt your feelings or something? durcry

No, I just find the "YOU'RE BIASED!" stuff on message boards to be childish and a distraction from the topic. I used to get into it myself, but now it doesn't interest me in the least.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
No, I just find the "YOU'RE BIASED!" stuff on message boards to be childish and a distraction from the topic. I used to get into it myself, but now it doesn't interest me in the least.

Originally posted by Galan007
Nice edit. 👆

Anyhow,
What you're really doing is speculating how how long YOU felt it took Darky to get over to DD's location.

That is one of the many reasons I said, "[/discussion]." 😊

And so are you. There's nothing in the comic saying how long Doomsday was down, so the best we can do is make reasonable conjecture based on context clues.

You implied that Doomsday was down longer because of the second blast, ignoring the fact that it was a heat beam whose primary purpose was to melt the rubble.

You also used the fact that the previous panel shows rubble falling, assuming a very short time from one panel to the next.

I pointed out the sheer distance Doomsday was from Darkseid (the fact that DS was on top of a multi-story building when he fired the blast) and the fact that he's drawn walking in a casual manner.

I also noted that Doomsday didn't get up until after the molten rubble had solidifed, which I'm assuming takes 10-20 seconds in the least.

We both used context clues to make our case for the time Doomsday was down. I'm perfectly happy to end the debate, but acting as though you're using different debate tactics than myself is just plain wrong. We both pointed out context clues to try to establish a timeframe that isn't perfectly clear.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
And so are you. There's nothing in the comic saying how long Doomsday was down, so the best we can do is make reasonable conjecture based on context clues.

You implied that Doomsday was down longer because of the second blast, ignoring the fact that it was a heat beam whose primary purpose was to melt the rubble.

You also used the fact that the previous panel shows rubble falling, assuming a very short time from one panel to the next.

I pointed out the sheer distance Doomsday was from Darkseid (the fact that DS was on top of a multi-story building when he fired the blast) and the fact that he's drawn walking in a casual manner.

I also noted that Doomsday didn't get up until after the molten rubble had solidifed, which I'm assuming takes 10-20 seconds in the least.

We both used context clues to make our case for the time Doomsday was down. I'm perfectly happy to end the debate, but acting as though you're using different debate tactics than myself is just plain wrong. We both pointed out context clues to try to establish a timeframe that isn't perfectly clear.

Bottom line,
DD pwned Darky -- and Thanos takes this battle via BFR. 😊

Originally posted by Galan007
Your long posts won't change the fact that you are still only speculating on timeframes here.

Bottom line,
DD pwned Darky -- and Thanos takes this battle via BFR. 😊

I"ve always hated how ugly you can get when debating sometimes. IT's so unbecoming of a poster of your value.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I"ve always hated how ugly you can get when debating sometimes. IT's so unbecoming of a poster of your value.

Originally posted by Galan007
What did I say in the post you quoted that was wrong? 🙂

You know how ugly you can get with your snide insults. Very ugly indeed. Jimmy made excellent points and debated from the very same angle that you were and yet you so easily dismissed him as another DS fan. I don't see you so easily dimissing other fans that way when I think about it, is so easy to do.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't see you so easily dimissing other fans that way when I think about it, is so easy to do.

And I mainly do that because it's funny how upset you can get over a comic character. 😛