Spiderman vs Daredevil

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes I know....

Bro we know that Spiderman pulls his punches by default when fighting weaker opponents. DD has stated before that Spidermans punches were very powerful....and thats when Spiderman was pulling his punches, hell in that fight DD took one hell of a beating. If Spiderman uses full force punches which he does in this thread DD is getting KOed or maybe even splattered. Thats my reason for saying that. As I stated before Cap is more durable than DD and could actually take full force punches from Spiderman while DD couldnt.

And when did I say Spiderman doesn't pull his punches?

And I agree Cap is more durable but in the end Spiderman could do the same to him. But its out of character for Spiderman to do so in battle. So its pointless.

Never did I say Spiderman could not accomplish this. But its a moot point irregardless of there battles in the books. Even Cap has stated he should not trade with the likes of Scorpion and such. Even in one battle Cap was KO'ed unconciouse by Scorpion.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
And when did I say Spiderman doesn't pull his punches?

Well I got the impression that you were ignoring that fact. If DD says that his punches are incredibly strong when hes pulling his punches I would have thought that full force punches would have killed him.

Originally posted by Daredevil1

And I agree Cap is more durable but in the end Spiderman could do the same to him. But its out of character for Spiderman to do so in battle. So its pointless.

Actually you might be right I was under the impression that bloodlust was on. Therefore Spiderman would use full force punches and that was the intention of this thread. We were debating Cap and Spiderman for 100s of pages and none of us thought that Spiderman was pulling punches in that thread. If Spiderman uses full force punches DD would probably get killed. I might have to clarify this with the mods.

Originally posted by Daredevil1

Never did I say Spiderman could not accomplish this. But its a moot point irregardless of there battles in the books. Even Cap has stated he should not trade with the likes of Scorpion and such.

That doesnt mean anything because he still beat him and Mr Hyde. That probably means that he cant take Scorpions punches all day but he can defintely take some of them furthermore he got beaten up by a superhuman Red Skull so the current Cap is probably tougher.

Originally posted by Daredevil1

Even in one battle Cap was KO'ed unconciouse by Scorpion.

That doesnt mean anything. Never said Cap couldnt get KOed by Scorpion I said he Cap is more durable than DD and therefore could take some full force punches whilst DD would probably get killed. As you know Cap got beaten up by a superhuman Red Skull I dont think thats punishement DD could take.

I agree with Battlehammer and Daredevil for the most part. Id normally say 5/5 split on any given day, but ill give spidey a slight majority.

Is Spideys strength a factor here? Not really imo. Daredevil has faced foes stronger than Spidey and even took a hit or two from them. The main thing that would help Spidey here the most, is wide spread webbing.

Originally posted by jrodslam
I agree with Battlehammer and Daredevil for the most part. Id normally say 5/5 split on any given day, but ill give spidey a slight majority.

Is Spideys strength a factor here? Not really imo. Daredevil has faced foes stronger than Spidey and even took a hit or two from them. The main thing that would help Spidey here the most, is wide spread webbing.

I think common sense dictates that they were not full force punches. DD has been hit by Hyde and The hulk obvoulsy DD is very fast and the punches probably barely touched him. Hulk and Hyde or not as fast as Spiderman.

Spiderman is more than capable of hitting DD more than once and twice. If pulled punches really hurt DD full punches I think would probably kill him.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I think common sense dictates that they were not full force punches. DD has been hit by Hyde and The hulk obvoulsy DD is very fast and the punches probably barely touched him. Hulk and Hyde or not as fast as Spiderman.

Spiderman is more than capable of hitting DD more than once and twice. If pulled punches really hurt DD full punches I think would probably kill him.

What werent full force punches? From the villains? Not so. True Hyde and the like arent as fast as Spiderman, but JUST like Spidermans punches, they arent able to fully connect.

Is Spiderman more than capable of hitting DD more than once or twice? Sure. Will they have the full effect of the punch thrown? Nope. Like stated before, DD has taken and dodged punches from Spidey that werent pulled. Why would a non-pulled punch from Spidey do more damage than a non-pulled punch from a diamond form Absorbing Man, Mr.Hyde, Hogun, Man-Bull, etc?

Originally posted by jrodslam
What werent full force punches? From the villains? Not so. True Hyde and the like arent as fast as Spiderman, but JUST like Spidermans punches, they arent able to fully connect.

Is Spiderman more than capable of hitting DD more than once or twice? Sure. Will they have the full effect of the punch thrown? Nope. Like stated before, DD has taken and dodged punches from Spidey that werent pulled. Why would a non-pulled punch from Spidey do more damage than a non-pulled punch from a diamond form Absorbing Man, Mr.Hyde, Hogun, Man-Bull, etc?

I think common sense dictates that the reason why Spidermans punches dont have full affect is because he pulls his punches.

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If pulled punches from Spiderman are going to floor DD this indicates that full force ones would probably kill him. In that fight Spiderman sense were messed up as well.

spiderman for the win

an holding back spiderman owned kingpin 🙂

Originally posted by Alfheim
I think common sense dictates that the reason why Spidermans punches dont have full affect is because he pulls his punches.

http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=62zy.jpg

If pulled punches from Spiderman are going to floor DD this indicates that full force ones would probably kill him. In that fight Spiderman sense were messed up as well.

You must remember that there were a couple of times where Spidey didnt pull his punches.

I take you didnt read the entire comic. Daredevil was aware of a sniper during the fight, and he played possum.

While Spider-Man didn't pull his punches the times he was mind-controlled, Daredevil himself stated that Spidey was off par due to the mind control on those occasions. Anyway, tough fight as always but Spidey wins the majority. I don't see him punching a hole through Daredevil though.

Originally posted by JasonK4
you're right, he doesn't have Cap's durability. I'm guessing his radar senses could compensate and maybe allow him to get a pressure point strike against Spidey for 2-3 wins. 😬

Edit: Spidey can easily encase him in webbing like he did to Iron-man. DD hasn't got much going for him unless it's strictly h2h.

Well said.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Sorry couldnt find another thread so I created one. Anyway who wins?

Well I got the impression that you were ignoring that fact. If DD says that his punches are incredibly strong when hes pulling his punches I would have thought that full force punches would have killed him.

Well you were wrong on that part. But you and me both know thats not how Spiderman fight. Heck your the thread starter, you did not specify Spidey is out of character in this thread. So thats why I stated its a moot point.

Actually you might be right I was under the impression that bloodlust was on. Therefore Spiderman would use full force punches and that was the intention of this thread. We were debating Cap and Spiderman for 100s of pages and none of us thought that Spiderman was pulling punches in that thread. If Spiderman uses full force punches DD would probably get killed. I might have to clarify this with the mods.

Well like I said above you didn't specify "blood lust". Which would have helped. But even with blood lust DD can give him minor problems not win though. But use his more lethal pressure-points.
Not really much to clarify since the "rules" state......

........Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the "character's personality, unless specified otherwise".::::

Unless specified otherwise. Which you forgot to state in the begining thread. Which would have helped.

That doesnt mean anything because he still beat him and Mr Hyde. That probably means that he cant take Scorpions punches all day but he can defintely take some of them furthermore he got beaten up by a superhuman Red Skull so the current Cap is probably tougher.

This I agree with.

That doesnt mean anything. Never said Cap couldnt get KOed by Scorpion I said he Cap is more durable than DD and therefore could take some full force punches whilst DD would probably get killed. As you know Cap got beaten up by a superhuman Red Skull I dont think thats punishement DD could take.

I've seen DD take some nasty punishment. But your right he's no Cap in durability.

Originally posted by jrodslam
You must remember that there were a couple of times where Spidey didnt pull his punches.

What were the circumstances. What when Spiderman was pissed off and DD stated that if he wasnt pissed off Spiderman would have finished him...or when Spiderman was hallucinating?

Originally posted by jrodslam

I take you didnt read the entire comic. Daredevil was aware of a sniper during the fight, and he played possum.

I read it ages ago. Nerve gas was messing up his spider-sense, he was pulling his punches. 😐

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Well you were wrong on that part. But you and me both know thats not how Spiderman fight. Heck your the thread starter, you did not specify Spidey is out of character in this thread. So thats why I stated its a moot point.

Well like I said above you didn't specify "blood lust". Which would have helped. But even with blood lust DD can give him minor problems not win though. But use his more lethal pressure-points.
Not really much to clarify since the "rules" state......

........Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the "character's personality, unless specified otherwise".::::

Unless specified otherwise. Which you forgot to state in the begining thread. Which would have helped.

Im aware of that but as I mentioned before it was a misunderstanding I was under the impresson that Spider Man used full force punches on this forum, this is the impression I got from the Cap vs Spiderman thread. I also didnt think bloodlust mean beserk I thought that meant with lethal force, at any rate next time I will clarify.

Originally posted by Daredevil1

This I agree with.

I've seen DD take some nasty punishment. But your right he's no Cap in durability.

Ok I might be misunderstanding his durability a bit. He doesnt have enhaced physical stats but he has some pretty ****ing impressive feats for a peak-athelete as in tipping over a limo with people inside it and opening KP's safe that has to be a 1 ton feat.

Spiderman definitely -too strong and too fast, but Daredevil wouldn't ake make it east for him

Spider-man at least 8/10.

Parker is smarter, faster, and stronger.

Game over.

parker

Spiderman DOES hold back. One punch, full throttle, landing on a human's head equals death. Not to mention he's about 10 to 15 times faster than a normal human......

It's hard to "roll with the punch" when your skull is caved it.

Spiderman

a non jobbing spiderman rips daredevils arm off and sodomizes him with it