Eclipso vs. Dr Fate

Current Eclipso vs. Hector Hall Dr. Fate

I've been trying to gauge current Eclipso's power level, and I haven't made a thread in a while so...

who takes it?

Fate.

Current Female Eclipso is shit.

dr. fate

I couldn't really think of current Eclipso doing anything impressive but the tier thread has her listed as sub-skyfather level so I wasn't sure if I just missed something.

Eclipso would normally be above Skyfather,me thinks.
Eclipso goes up against the Spectre regularly with the fights only ending when Spectre traps Eclipso.

Fate ftw.

Eclipso should beat Fate but lose to Nabu.

Originally posted by Desaad

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is this from countdown or what? I have only read countdown 51-46 and really havent delved into it yet. Which issue of what desaad?

Answered.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Countdown to Mystery #2.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is this from countdown or what? I have only read countdown 51-46 and really havent delved into it yet. Which issue of what desaad?

Let me add that this is yet another ally/thrall for the Darkseid side of the war.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanks is it a countdown tie in?

The Countdown tie-ins are better than the main story as well (most of them)...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanks is it a countdown tie in?

Vaguely. The first half is a Dr. Fate series that isn't connected to Countdown at all.

The second half is this Eclipso story that seems loosely tied to Countdown, except for the reveal that Eclipso is in fact a creation of Darkseid (Or at least the Black Diamond is).

Originally posted by Desaad
Vaguely. The first half is a Dr. Fate series that isn't connected to Countdown at all.

The second half is this Eclipso story that seems loosely tied to Countdown, except for the reveal that Eclipso is in fact a creation of Darkseid (Or at least the Black Diamond is).

Also, there's no point in getting the comic if you're not into Eclipso, or Fate, since Darkseid only appears in the panels already shown.

Do you know something I don't know?

Because the Dr. Fate series was commissioned and written as its own ongoing series, and then got relegated to a Countdown title because of various internal problems (The original artist was overbooked and couldn't do the work, Gerber is terribly ill and working slowly, the marketability of a Dr. Fate book was called into question).

I don't see how Dr. Fate is going to tie into Countdown at all, at least not the direct events of the book.

Originally posted by Bransolute
It will all tie together... eventually.

Also, there's no point in getting the comic if you're not into Eclipso, or Fate, since Darkseid only appears in the panels already shown.

He actually appears on the last page of the first issue, and his cronies the Furies pluck Eclipso out of the sun's rays during that first issue story as well.

I also think that the Fate story is EXTREMELY strong, so even if you don't usually like Fate I think you should give it a try.

And if you're a plastic man fan, the Eclipso story should be of serious interest to you.

I'm talking about #2, not the first comic as well.

Originally posted by Desaad
Do you know something I don't know?

Because the Dr. Fate series was commissioned and written as its own ongoing series, and then got relegated to a Countdown title because of various internal problems (The original artist was overbooked and couldn't do the work, Gerber is terribly ill and working slowly, the marketability of a Dr. Fate book was called into question).

I don't see how Dr. Fate is going to tie into Countdown at all, at least not the direct events of the book.

I just figured since it was a Countdown book...

Both of the Countdown to Mystery issues have been thoroughly interesting and entertaining. I would say they are easily among the best new comics I have picked up this year.