Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]So he will simply cut the arm of a super soldier that just happened to fall over two miles from straight skies and smashing hard into the earth with near as strong effect as a meteor. Who then just happened to stand up and be still at his prime with only a few scratches on his armor.To add, it is known that the protective shield that protect Master Chief does not protect him against long falls. So the endurance shown at that sequence was his mere armor alone. Then you add a powerful energy shield onto it.
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Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]So he will simply cut the arm of a super soldier that just happened to fall over two miles from straight skies and smashing hard into the earth with near as strong effect as a meteor. Who then just happened to stand up and be still at his prime with only a few scratches on his armor.To add, it is known that the protective shield that protect Master Chief does not protect him against long falls. So the endurance shown at that sequence was his mere armor alone. Then you add a powerful energy shield onto it.
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That was pure PIS. ANY SPARTAN WOULD HAVE DIED FROM THAT. He should have died. The soldiers even said it was a Miracle he survived. I repeated"A MIRACLE". Sparants have been guned down by regular fire, Fallen from less distance and died, and have been smashed.
But if you want to pull that card. Ryu fell from 200 stories then got up like nothing happened then went on to kill VE. Cheif on the other hand was K.O.ed. for the longest period of time. And some of his system were damaged. The books are more canon than the game. Which explains most of the stuff that really happens. Grunts are not as weak as you think. A Real grunt can tear a Human limp from limp with ease. and have a jaw that can eat through double plated steel like warm butter.
My bets are that Master Cheif feel into a lake that was isntantly dried up from the heat admitted from the ground. Or soft ground. He didnt fall and hit concrete. But either way.
Slicing is different from slamming. And Master Cheif armor is not that equal to a tank. It can be peirced by bullets. The only thing special is the sheild. His actual armor is no more than steel. Beleive it or not Air craft armor plating is thicker than his own. So once Ryu sliced through his energy sheilds. it nothing but metal he will be slicing through. Which as shown in cutscenes he has cut threw plenty of metaland steel material in his day.
Are you saying that the marine that claimed it was a miracle is suddenly trained in the Spartan II project? That he suddenly because a professor of genticly manipulated supersoldiers? That he is perfectly capable of making a diagnotic analyze of the situation? Trained in Spartan engineering, medical care and schoolar ship? That he have treated multiple other Spartan II projects before Master Chief?
Is that what you are saying? Oh I see. It is? Then maybe it is a miracle 😛
Your bet? Your bet is that he fell into a lake? Oh, I see. Now that settles it. You THINK he fell into a lake and therefore he did. His system was not damaged from the crash. Only locked down. Also, that Ryu fell that distance is not because of his endurance/gear. It is simply because he is a ninja with certain abilities. We were discussing actual endurance.
I never said grunts are weak, by the way. And in all honesty, I do NOT CARE if the game is less canon than the books.
You want to know WHY?
Because-- THIS-- IS-- GAME-- VS-- FORUM! 😛
So Ryu will slice trough his armor? And Master Chief will do what? Extend his arm and just let him? Open his defenses and let him hit? You are talking about the effect of a perfect hit from an opening. As if Master Chief would ever let Ryu get such an opening.
Also, you are talking about piercing Master Chief's armor. Have you ever looked at it from his point of view? He is fighting a near unarmored guy that does not have very high endurance compared to Master Chief.
Master Chief hold such strength that he can with mere punches move a warthog. The guy who climb his OWN WEIGHT [Armor] in a near 90 degree uphill after being hit by a falling warthog and battleing an open hatch in a spacecraft that has a suck powerful enough to have a scorpion being sucked out in the same rate as a person throwing a pebble.
A few hits and Ryu is out of the counting. This is if Master Chief is unarmed.
Why all heated arguing? cry
Can't we just not go into details and state our opinion of who's more likely to win 😬? I think that'll save everyone much time instead of arguing pointlessly over minor details.
Imagine the fight, witness its badassery, and state who you think would win by giving each character a winning percentage. 😬
IMO:
Master Cheif 43%
Ryu 57%
😄
*Goes to hug Diamond Kisses via pm*
Ryubusa is too fast for him. What is Cheif going to do.....SHOOT HIM... thats laughable. If Cheif shoots him then getting kicked in the balls dont hurt. Simple as that. Ryu has dodge firearms and guns that have a faster fire rate than the weapons Cheif has weilded. Master Cheif does not flip tanks with punches. That is meer gameplay mechanic to speed the game up. I doubt the creatores would have a cheif sit there and put his back aginst a vehilvle do a squat motion. and flip it on its side. Then do again to flip it back on his wheels. Master Cheif is not even the strongest spartan there is. The strongest spartan clocked in over a ton. Just one tone. IF a spartan was really that strong. Running at full speed would make the ground splat. If a spartan was that strong. Than The group of rogue spartans would have made the marines head explode.
Its pure canon fact and logic. If he can toss warthogs and tanks with a punch. How come when he is punching a enemy to kill. They dont go flying. They sure dont weight in over a ton in body weight. So flipping warthogs is pure gameplay mechanic to speed up the game play.
The books are pure, overrated shite that make SPARTANS gods.
But.. since there allowed to be used here, might as well.
So far I've seen no proof that Hayabusa can cut through the Chief's armor with ease other then "OMG it's magikz!" and "He cut through a jet!" never mind the fact that airplane metal is some of the thinnest and most pathetic metals on the face of the Earth.
As such, I say the only way Hayabusa wins is via nimpo.
Or energy attacks. I mentioned those before.
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