Could the Sun Crusher withstand a blast from the Death Star?
I was reading the Jedi Academy trilogy again today, when I began to wonder if the Sun Crusher could take a hit from the Death Star's Superlaser. The Superlaser can destroy a whole planet in a single shot, but the Sun Crusher tore through the command center of a Star Destroyer (the Manticore I believe). Discuss or Flame, your choice.
Originally posted by Morridini
It was made pretty overpowered, so I think the answer would be yes.
Isn't everything is SW?
Originally posted by Orbius
I was reading the Jedi Academy trilogy again today, when I began to wonder if the Sun Crusher could take a hit from the Death Star's Superlaser. The Superlaser can destroy a whole planet in a single shot, but the Sun Crusher tore through the command center of a Star Destroyer (the Manticore I believe). Discuss or Flame, your choice.
Uh....methinks a planet would be more difficult to destroy than a Star Destroyer. So no, I think it would be destroyed by a blast from one of the Death Stars. 😉
Originally posted by Melcórë
Isn't everything is SW?Uh....methinks a planet would be more difficult to destroy than a Star Destroyer. So no, I think it would be destroyed by a blast from one of the Death Stars. 😉
I was trying to emphasize the point that the Sun Crusher litteraly flew through a Star Destroyer's command center, which would be tons and tons of metal, possibly duracreet and plasteel, and came out unscathed. Too bad Star Wars doesn't look too kindly upon Logic...I can just see it now...
Lucas: "CGI Clones, check. Piss on Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy, check. Complete oblivious to the fact that I can't write dialogue for shit, check. No logic whatsoever, just pretty colors, check."
I Swear to god that's how he came up with the prequals. If they happened to come out first instead of the OT, Star Wars would not have been the hit it is.
Originally posted by Orbius
I was trying to emphasize the point that the Sun Crusher litteraly flew through a Star Destroyer's command center, which would be tons and tons of metal, possibly duracreet and plasteel, and came out unscathed. Too bad Star Wars doesn't look too kindly upon Logic...I can just see it now...Lucas: "CGI Clones, check. Piss on Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy, check. Complete oblivious to the fact that I can't write dialogue for shit, check. No logic whatsoever, just pretty colors, check."
I Swear to god that's how he came up with the prequals. If they happened to come out first instead of the OT, Star Wars would not have been the hit it is.
"Piss" on the Thrawn Trilogy? How so?
BTW: I knew to what you were referring. Destroying a planet would take much more effort/power; therefore, the Sun Crusher would be devastated by the Death Star.
Originally posted by Melcórë
"Piss" on the Thrawn Trilogy? How so?BTW: I knew to what you were referring. Destroying a planet would take much more effort/power; therefore, the Sun Crusher would be devastated by the Death Star.
It's like Lucas just walking up to Zahn, slapping him in the face, and telling him his story has no merit whatsoever, even tho Lucas most likely had to clear it anyways, and the book was written around a decade ago?? To change the circumstances of the clone wars after the book was waaay published is just uncool.
That's probably the only reason I hate Lucas, he's so narrow-minded that EU basically does not exist to him. To him, it's all just a bunch of fanfic, or as he's said, "A completely different universe." I just can never respect him because of that, and Jar Jar...but I can understand Jar Jar, as Pot was the hit thing when he wrote SW....how come no one's made that joke yet?
Originally posted by Orbius
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Zahn was the first author to reference the Clone Wars? I forgot the circumstances that he described, but it was different than what Lucas finally did.It's like Lucas just walking up to Zahn, slapping him in the face, and telling him his story has no merit whatsoever, even tho Lucas most likely had to clear it anyways, and the book was written around a decade ago?? To change the circumstances of the clone wars after the book was waaay published is just uncool.
That's probably the only reason I hate Lucas, he's so narrow-minded that EU basically does not exist to him. To him, it's all just a bunch of fanfic, or as he's said, "A completely different universe." I just can never respect him because of that, and Jar Jar...but I can understand Jar Jar, as Pot was the hit thing when he wrote SW....how come no one's made that joke yet?
To be honest, it's been so long since I've read those books....I don't remember if there were any direct contradictions with regards the actual Clone Wars itself - save perhaps the length of time. It always seemed to be described as longer than three years, although short wars can be just as bloody (if not more so) than long ones....
That being said, even if there was a huge contradiction, it is ultimately Lucas' story, no matter how it makes us feel....
BTW: LOL @ Jar-Jar and pot....
Yeah, but to let an author write one thing, and then say it's another is just horrible marketting. I think the circumstances were the factions were different, like there was no CIS. I'm not shure, I was gunna read them again anyways.
And yeah, Jar Jar and pot makes sense. How else can you explain a 6-part series that has more holes than a slice of swiss cheese?
Well there were some direct contradictions. Specificly the time for the Clone Wars, Vaders age etc. From a interview:
TZ: A lot of the problem with what I couldn't do was that the marketing people didn't know what Lucas had planned. He was keeping this under wraps, and they were tending to err on the side of caution, which I certainly understand: that they were worried that I might run into something Lucas was doing. And therefore, since they didn't know exactly what he was doing, better not to let me do this than take the risk. So, I don't think there was anything in "The Phantom Menace" that violated anything that I did. The only real problem we had that is a glaring error in my books is that they would not give me a Clone Wars date until I was mostly done with book two ("Dark Force Rising"😉. The first book was already at the printers and they actually moved it back about fifteen years earlier than I had set it. As a result, the various numbers don't add up. When it talks about Pellaeon's age, they don't add up because there's this fifteen-year difference. They might have actually set it back a bit further when they set on "The Phantom Menace". So the timeline doesn't quite match, but nothing else I think finally contradicts what I've done. It would have been nice to know that the head of the Senate was called the "chancellor", and some of these little details would have been nice to know, but that's not a big problem.
Originally posted by Morridini
Well there were some direct contradictions. Specificly the time for the Clone Wars, Vaders age etc. From a interview:Source: http://www.theforce.net/jedicouncil/interview/zahn.shtml
So, in other words - pretty much what I said above, with regards the timing issues. 😛
That's not really that big of an issue, though, y'know? The dates could be reconciled in later editions of the books through edits....
Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
May i also state that the Sun Crusher Survived in a Black Hole , a Gas Giant , and a Sun....SO yes i think it could withstand a Simple Laser Volly from a Star Destroyer Since it took a Direct Hit from the Prototype Star Destroying in the Maw Installation
When did it survive inside of a black hole. It has amazing armor to survive Yavin's atmospheric pressure but being able to withstand a direct blast from the death star. The super laser was designed to destroy planets. And it didn't exactly take a direct hit from the death star prototype. First of all the prototype was firing at half power to reserve the energy so it could fire more shots at the republic ships.
The Death Star fired again, and the superlaser beam curved around, bent even more severely in the deep gravity well; but this time the gunner had compensated. The blurred fringes of the beam actually struck the Sun Crusher and knocked it spinning out of control.Any other ship would have been vaporized instantly, but the quantum armor plating protected the superweapon-just barely.Kyp's propulsion systems were obviously damaged. The Sun Crusher struggled along on a tangential course, attempting to pull away from the event horizon. But it was too close, and gravity was too strong. It spiraled in a tight orbit, sinking deeper and deeper.
Then the beam was bent and even though the gunner compensated the fringes hit the sun crusher meaning it was not a direct it but more like the sun crusher hit from the side of the beam and the beam itself still a had good portion into the black hole even with the the gunner's compensation. So the side blast(not a direct hit) of the prototype was even less than 50% that actually hit the sun crusher. And the narrator stated that the sun crusher barely survived that blast (less than 50%) and keep in mind it was hit by the fringes.