Originally posted by Violent2Dope
The speed edge IS too much. Loz makes Hachi look like he's standing still.
Didn't you read the part where Nikk says "if the speed edge is too much we assume they are both fighting at even speed."
With that said...Heihachi wins this if both have the same speed. Higher durability, experience, decent power strikes and Heihachi will probably fight dirty if Loz gives him trouble.
As for the normal match...Loz will win because of the speed advantage.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeIn terms of strength, Loz is EASILY Hachi's superior. Loz is a more brutal fighter, and he easily took all of Tifa's blows, and then in like...2 shots beat her.
Didn't you read the part where Nikk says "if the speed edge is too much we assume they are both fighting at even speed."With that said...Heihachi wins this if both have the same speed. Higher durability, experience, decent power strikes and Heihachi will probably fight dirty if Loz gives him trouble.
As for the normal match...Loz will win because of the speed advantage.
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasLoz MANHANDLED Tifa, who is also very strong, and with one arm threw her with enough force that when she turned in midair to land on a pillar horizontly, after she landed, all the flowers under her path of travel, were shredded.
How is he stronger than Heihachi?Heihachi knocking around the Jacks is a better strength feat than anything I saw from Loz.
Loz punches with enough force to create a huge Ground Wave, as he shot it at Cloud, punched a giant tree down with little effort, with his legs, he launched a huge bike at Cloud at extreme speed, im sure Loz can smash Jacks around like nothing
and dont forget, Loz survived that huuge TNT Explosion by the turks
Heihachi beats him....power, insane durability, cool moves and overall kickass style that has enabled him to beat people like kazuya etc.
besides in the T6 profile for raven it said that he and hachi fought for a long time and pretty evenly too and lets not forget how fast raven is (he's also a teleporter).
Hachi wins.............and then bitchslaps loz for reminding him of Kazuya.
SHORIYA!
~Sado
Besides beating up a few jacks then getting exhausted and almost dying, what else are Heihachis strength feats?
Also where is it stated that it was his Dual Hounds that made the Ground Wave? If it was then he'd simply need to put it on the ground and fire, he was clearing exerting physical force into BOTH of those blows.
Loz' durability is up there with Heihachi's as well, he took a motorcycle explosion right to the face, without phazing him at all, and took that giant TNT explosion by the turks, and survived.
Heichachi is a human with extreme skill and durability, Loz however; is a superhuman..
His reflex, power, and movement are matrix-like, dodging bullets from behind, tossing ppl 100 feet in the air, kicking heavy ass motorbikes at ppl, zipping around the battlefield at high speed..
Besides beating up a few jacks then getting exhausted and almost dying, what else are Heihachis strength feats?
A lot more than a few and he didn't almost die. Unless eh was almost dying for week's on end.
Loz' durability is up there with Heihachi's as well, he took a motorcycle explosion right to the face, without phazing him at all, and took that giant TNT explosion by the turks, and survived.
Heihachi has been dropped off cliffs and blown for miles by explosions and survived.
Loz's durability can't compare.
Not to mention we saw what Kaz's punches can do with those huge metal robots. Heihachi was taking those blows in their T4 fight.
His reflex, power, and movement are matrix-like, dodging bullets from behind, tossing ppl 100 feet in the air, kicking heavy ass motorbikes at ppl, zipping around the battlefield at high speed..
None of which puts him at even the top tier of Tekken, let alone the God-Tier the Mishimas reside in.
Heihachi never got nuked, and im pretty sure that TNT blew Loz and yazoo miles away considering how big the explosion is
None of which puts him at even the top tier of Tekken, let alone the God-Tier the Mishimas reside in.