Sebastian Shaw vs Spider-Man

Started by Battlehammer3 pages

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Doesn't Shaw often manage to taunt people into punching him even if they know his powers?

yup

If Shaw does start at class 50 then Spider-ma can't stop him cause if he tries a KO that's just plain foolish, and his webbing wont work on a class 50 character, because it can easily be ripped apart. If Spider-man is in any sort of lab environment maybe he could find away to beat Shaw at class 20 or higher, but that's iffy at best, and he's in a basic arena anyway....

Shaw would have to start out at class 10 for Spider-man to have a chance. solely due to webbing.

Shaw 10/10 if starting out at class 20 or higher.

Spidey would only have to use the glue/bubblegum-version of his webbing to engulf Shaw completely and the fight is over, either because Shaw would be unable to move or because he would simply suffocate.

Originally posted by wannabe
Spidey would only have to use the glue/bubblegum-version of his webbing to engulf Shaw completely and the fight is over, either because Shaw would be unable to move or because he would simply suffocate.

Depends what strength level Shaw is, if he is high level he can easily rip the webbing away, and high strength class's can usually hold their breath for a long time.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Depends what strength level Shaw is, if he is high level he can easily rip the webbing away, and high strength class's can usually hold their breath for a long time.

Ofcourse Shaw would most probably be able to rip apart Spidey's usual webbing, but i was talking about the glue-web.
Strength wouldn't do Shaw any good against it, cause the web would not rip but follow every move he would make, just to get back to it's original formation. Shaw simply hasn't the arm span to bring the glue-webbing past its ripping point.
And for the suffocting: Spidey could keep Shaw in a glue-bubble for days, and no matter how good Shaw's stamina is, he can't hold his breath THAT long.

spiderman has organic webbing now...........there no glue-web

Originally posted by wannabe
Ofcourse Shaw would most probably be able to rip apart Spidey's usual webbing, but i was talking about the [B]glue-web.
Strength wouldn't do Shaw any good against it, cause the web would not rip but follow every move he would make, just to get back to it's original formation. Shaw simply hasn't the arm span to bring the glue-webbing past its ripping point.
And for the suffocting: Spidey could keep Shaw in a glue-bubble for days, and no matter how good Shaw's stamina is, he can't hold his breath THAT long. [/B]

I guess so, but even the glue webbing isn't that effective, if Shaw grabbed a small section and started ripping it would rip, once it began to rip it would be pretty easy to carry on, and like Battlehammer said, we don't know if Spidey can use it now due to not have web shooters.

Originally posted by Sparkz
I guess so, but even the glue webbing isn't that effective, if Shaw grabbed a small section and started ripping it would rip, once it began to rip it would be pretty easy to carry on, and like Battlehammer said, we don't know if Spidey can use it now due to not have web shooters.

The grabbing part would be the difficult one, or better it wouldn't, since the glue would be simply everywhere. And ripping something extremely sticky is not like ripping some plain ropes, especially when contingently gaps are refilled by surrounding substance or by the source itself.

Whether Spidey has a natural glue-webbing or not is, ofcourse, speculation, but he could still use his old webshooters just in case he dosn't (which would be possible but most unusual, now that he is more spider than ever before, and many spiders do use the kind of webbing in question)

actaully most spiders don't nor has spiderman shown to. actaully no spider in the word can shoot webbing out. spidermans powers are really in many ways nothing like a spider.

oh and spiderman does not have his webshooters nor does he uses them any more.

man your really reaching here. Plain and simple spiderman loses the majority.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully most spiders don't nor has spiderman shown to. actaully no spider in the word can shoot webbing out. spidermans powers are really in many ways nothing like a spider.

oh and spiderman does not have his webshooters nor does he uses them any more.

man your really reaching here. Plain and simple spiderman loses the majority.


Spidey's powers seem very much like he's a mixture of all traits any spider might have, adapted to a human body ... biologically ridiculous, ofcourse, but hey, that's the way superheroes are.

I already admitted that Spidey didn't show natural glue webbing ... yet.

I'm not reaching anything here, i just proposed a simple and not at all unusual or farfetched tactic with which Peter has a winning chance. If it would be absolutely and undoubtly clear that he can't use it, i too would say that he'd loose the majority.

true spider-man has not shown what he's capable of asid from standard web lines with his organic webs, but webs are not his only asset. Although he could apply them in such a manner as webbing shaw's fists into web balls, at that point he would be unable to rip the webbing and from there it would be a lot easier to leave him hanging from a light post and call it a night, but that's not his only option, another more risky approach is to try and overload shaw by forcing him to absorb many impacts it is risky but an option, and there is also the option of dropping him in so cement like he did for juggy a while back

Give me a second to show that he does have Glue and other different web types (though i still agree Shaw takes majority if he starts of a 50 tonner)

Sebastian Shaw ftw.

soooo my photobucket is bieng retarded. if anyone has Amazing Spider-Man 544, can you show the like 3rd to last page? with how his webbing works at the top, stats at the bottom?

I have never read of Shaw ever starting out at that high a Class, if that was the case he would easily one-shot many characters, instead of berating them into attacking him while boosting his already high strength class...I think you all are giving him a tad bit too much credit in the strength department, don't forum rules apply whereas characters fight at base standards unless otherwise annotated by the thread starter? In this case I see Shaw stating the fight off as an exceptionally strong "ordinary" human, all Peter would really have to do is web him up and he wouldn't be strong enough to break free.

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