Originally posted by Soljer
She's saying "NOOOOO!!!" and he talks about using his force of will to bridge the gap.I'd say it's 'tactile telepathy,' but seemingly telepathy nonetheless.
That just doesn't look telepathic to me. He's using chi to do that. And he's merging himself to bring her her own thought right? Just seems fishy to me.
Originally posted by Soljer
Meh, telepathy is telepathy regardless of whether it's granted via magic, science, or (in this case) chi.
I'd call it PIS unless someone can show him doing it to an actual enemy and doing it again. He even says himself on panel he's never done it this way before. ANd unless he can do it again, I'd say it's like the flash flying that one time. Not to be counted.
I'd have to say so far Data is my favorite draft pick, honestly. It's not even the Trekkie in me saying that either. His intelligence and computative abilities with the right team and cirumstances are very formidable. Also, I'm a proponent of brains over brawn in my own strategies, so that doesn't hurt either.
Not to mention he has one of, if not the best prep areas (The USS Enterprise D) that can be found in this entire tournament, and makes all of his teammates prep areas nearly as formidable as his own just by being present. A pick like that is a prime example of utilizing the mixed genre format for maximum effect. 👆
Originally posted by illadelph12
I'd have to say so far Data is my favorite draft pick, honestly. It's not even the Trekkie in me saying that either. His intelligence and computative abilities with the right team and cirumstances are very formidable. Also, I'm a proponent of brains over brawn in my own strategies, so that doesn't hurt either.Not to mention he has one of, if not the best prep areas (The USS Enterprise D) that can be found in this entire tournament, and makes all of his teammates prep areas nearly as formidable as his own just by being present. A pick like that is a prime example of utilizing the mixed genre format for maximum effect. 👆
Why thank you. I"m a trek fan myself. I actually just got into star trek enterprise tho. I watched the mirror darkly episode and I was hooked. I"m going to buy it on dvd if I can find it.
Originally posted by illadelph12
I'd have to say so far Data is my favorite draft pick, honestly. It's not even the Trekkie in me saying that either. His intelligence and computative abilities with the right team and cirumstances are very formidable. Also, I'm a proponent of brains over brawn in my own strategies, so that doesn't hurt either.Not to mention he has one of, if not the best prep areas (The USS Enterprise D) that can be found in this entire tournament, and makes all of his teammates prep areas nearly as formidable as his own just by being present. A pick like that is a prime example of utilizing the mixed genre format for maximum effect. 👆
Pretty much agree🙂
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'd call it PIS unless someone can show him doing it to an actual enemy and doing it again. He even says himself on panel he's never done it this way before. ANd unless he can do it again, I'd say it's like the flash flying that one time. Not to be counted.
It's not exactly PIS, since the mind melding has been a major plot point between him and Colleen ever since, hence I wouldn't consider it to be 'vacuously retconned' the way many things have been.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
In fact having a computer mind in your team already benefits you as you can realistically process multiple varietes of the battle in your head.Though there's a little handy thing called cyberpathy which was the reason I didn't draft Prometheus (though I was planning to do that).
Trust me,I tried my best to get a cyberapthy person on the team. I got ban hammer calls at every turn. I didn't feel like arguing.
Originally posted by Soljer
It's not exactly PIS, since the mind melding has been a major plot point between him and Colleen ever since, hence I wouldn't consider it to be 'vacuously retconned' the way many things have been.
Wait, So one could argue that it is something that he could only do with her. Kinda like Scott and Jean's rapport. Scott couldn't do that sort of thing with say storm.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Wrong analogue as Jean is true telepath.
Well you know what I mean. Unless IF was shown to be able to do that to anyone else, I would pwn someone trying to use it in a fight as I would request them showing him using such against anyone else. Thus to me, he has no offensive telepathy becuz as Sol just pointed out, it's something between him and the chick.
It's a plot point that is significant between the two of them in their later stories and relationships, and therefore has not been vacuously retconned.
There was no reason that he could only perform the mind meld on her, she's just the only one he's ever tried it on.
To take your argument to an extreme, to demonstrate the inconsistency, what you're saying is that "Superman has never punched Aunt May, show me Clark punching Aunt May. You can't. Therefore, he cannot punch Aunt May."
Originally posted by Soljer
It's a plot point that is significant between the two of them in their later stories and relationships, and therefore has not been vacuously retconned.There was no reason that he could only perform the mind meld on her, she's just the only one he's ever tried it on.
To take your argument to an extreme, to demonstrate the inconsistency, what you're saying is that "Superman has never punched Aunt May, show me Clark punching Aunt May. You can't. Therefore, he cannot punch Aunt May."
NO. But you can show superman punching multiple people. He's never shown to do it to anyone but her. Thus it is a plot between the two. Much like scott's rapport with jean.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. But you can show superman punching multiple people. He's never shown to do it to anyone but her. Thus it is a plot between the two. Much like scott's rapport with jean.
I'm aware that Superman's punched multiple people, but he's never punched Aunt May. Hence me noting that I was taking your very argument to an extreme.
There was nothing in the comic that alluded to Danny only being able to perform a mind meld on Colleen.
Originally posted by Soljer
I'm aware that Superman's punched multiple people, but he's never punched Aunt May. Hence me noting that I was taking your very argument to an extreme.There was nothing in the comic that alluded to Danny only being able to perform a mind meld on Colleen.
It doesn't look offensive to me. I need to see the effects of it. It looks like a mind merger. And I certainly wouldn't think he would be able to do that to someone like Midnighter or Superman. And if it is a reoccurring thing between those two, it would seem that it is something that only they share, thus I would call foul if anyone tried to use it against someone else in a battlezone. Plus the fact that it is a mind and soul meld of some sorts seems to be putting him in danger as well.