Illadelph's Multi Genre Team Tournament Confirmation Thread

Kenshiro- technically it is but only if it's connects (if he's banned then Karnak should be banned also). Also it's unclear how would it work on opponents like Savage Dragon which durability is way above human. Anyways, I specifically asked Illadelph about him before the tourney and he said it was OK.

Originally posted by Akuki
Rebuttals:
Kira: His ability has plenty of drawbacks, requires contact with the opponent, and its clear from his fighting abilities that he would go down hard in a battle against Spidey.
Seras: She only has a very very limited form of his regeneration, the manga specifically states that Alucards regeneration is due to the immense number of souls in him, Seras has one, she hasn't shown anywhere near his regeneration feats, in fact her regeneration is probably rather similar to Deathstrokes

Seras has shadowform powers similar to Alucard and she already absorbed one soul from Pip.

http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10182

Resisting and breaking the illusions of Zorin Blitz, a vampire with wide range illusion powers.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10320
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10324

Proof that she absorbed Pip's soul and memories.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10321
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10322

Flight through shadowform.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10334
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10335

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
What about their DNA assimilation? Or their nearly impenetrable armor? The computer brains? The death rays?

DNA assimilation only works on Time-travelers with specific radiation unique to DW universe.

Armour isn't impenetrable , you just need the right frequency to Peirce their shields. Also in the season 1 finale daleks were being hurt. Or how about third season ? The Human/Dalek/Gallifrians were killing Daleks.

Their in a machine, what the hell do you expect. Also we have Midnighter in the freakin tourney ! The guy does EXACTLY the same things with his ORGANIC brain.

Feh , 'Death Rays' . Its an energy weapon. They can be dodged ect. Hell Baron Zemo (ww2 version) was carrying a 'Death ray'.

Her shadowform is quite limited thing from what I've seen, also souls\
memory absorbtion appeared after she drank Pip's blood.

Originally posted by grey fox
DNA assimilation only works on Time-travelers with specific radiation unique to DW universe.

Armour isn't impenetrable , you just need the right frequency to Peirce their shields. Also in the season 1 finale daleks were being hurt. Or how about third season ? The Human/Dalek/Gallifrians were killing Daleks.

Their in a machine, what the hell do you expect. Also we have Midnighter in the freakin tourney ! The guy does EXACTLY the same things with his ORGANIC brain.

Feh , 'Death Rays' . Its an energy weapon. They can be dodged ect. Hell Baron Zemo (ww2 version) was carrying a 'Death ray'.

Specific frequencies that no one in this tournament will know or be able to find out. As someone said about Daleks and stairs: "Real Daleks don't climb stairs, they level the building." srsly Something that can level buildings with it's death ray is mid meta at least.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Seras has shadowform powers similar to Alucard and she already absorbed one soul from Pip.

http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10182

Resisting and breaking the illusions of Zorin Blitz, a vampire with wide range illusion powers.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10320
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10324

Proof that she absorbed Pip's soul and memories.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10321
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10322

Flight through shadowform.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10334
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10335

The memory absorbtion is almost useless in battle as it requires killing the opponent first, and you aren't allowed to take it to the next round, her shadow form is very limited, and she can't regenerate it back into her normal body like Alucard can. And how does the ability to resist illusions put her above the limit?

Also what are you complaining about, take a look at some of Jotaro's feats. He's punched through diamond walls, can catch bullets fired less than 2 inches from his skull, can match and overpower The World in terms of speed and powr until the time stop is used. He has plenty of speed feats that could put him above quicksilver.

Originally posted by Akuki
The memory absorbtion is almost useless in battle as it requires killing the opponent first, and you aren't allowed to take it to the next round, her shadow form is very limited, and she can't regenerate it back into her normal body like Alucard can. And how does the ability to resist illusions put her above the limit?

She was able to briefly stand up to God-Anderson and create a bulletproof shield around Integra.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Specific frequencies that no one in this tournament will know or be able to find out. As someone said about Daleks and stairs: "Real Daleks don't climb stairs, they level the building." srsly Something that can level buildings with it's death ray is mid meta at least.

Any Energy manipulator worth their salt could turn the thing off.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
She was able to briefly stand up to God-Anderson and create a bulletproof shield around Integra.

Thats an insult to Goderson , she just held a re-bar . Thats all.

Also nobody's going to use illusions there in a first place.

Kenshiro is not really over the limit...no more than say Karnak.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Jotaro did not use his time-stop power before the 'Dio's World' story-arc. And I will be drafting him from before the point in the story where he manifested that power. And need I remind you that before he observed Dio himself using that power, he was unable to use it? So there will be no time stop from Star Platinum.

Sounds like neutering to me. But I spose it's still to the vote?

Barring stomping Ultron recently, Darkhawk doesn't seem over the limits, though I may be wrong.

Bulletproof shield- yeah, Venom can create shields from his symbiote and nobody bans Venom.

Originally posted by Soljer
Sounds like neutering to me. But I spose it's still to the vote?

Barring stomping Ultron recently, Darkhawk doesn't seem over the limits, though I may be wrong.

You mean She-tron ?

Seriously jotaro has to go. he took hundreds of punches from a guy who do this just by stumbling into a wall with a cut fist and got back up.

Originally posted by grey fox
You mean She-tron ?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/RunawaysV206page17.jpg

Hokuto Shin Ken kills guys who are made of steel, guys who can't be hurt by bullets, and even a glancing blow can finish a person off.

Seras before her upgrade is ok, Seras post upgrade is over the cap.

Walter is dicey.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10365
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10366

Those wires of his rip through choppers and buildings.

Here's more from Seras.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10373
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10374

Anderson gives Seras respect and says an entire company of Iscariot operatives could not take her down.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10376

Venom shouldn't be in this.

He's clearly superior to Spidey in every way, one of the (if not the) strongest characters in the tourney, and has a plethora of abilities due to the symbiote.

Originally posted by Akuki
Seriously jotaro has to go. he took hundreds of punches from a guy who do this just by stumbling into a wall with a cut fist and got back up.

Correction, his stand took that punishment. And that's not much worse than Venom or some other bricks.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hokuto Shin Ken kills guys who are made of steel, guys who can't be hurt by bullets, and even a glancing blow can finish a person off.

Seras before her upgrade is ok, Seras post upgrade is over the cap.

Walter is dicey.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10365
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10366

Those wires of his rip through choppers and buildings.

Here's more from Seras.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10373
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10374

Anderson gives Seras respect and says an entire company of Iscariot operatives could not take her down.
http://groups.msn.com/ATU-BOTI/hellsingvolume7hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10376

And Spidey CAN'T take down a 'copter ?

Also your exaggerating the Iscariot thing. A company is 75-200 people , and those would all just be ordinary guy's with guns.

I vote Jotaro out.

Also, would being able to double the weight of organic matter over and over again until they can't move (or worse) classify as organic matter manip?

Karnak has chattered diamonds with pressure point strikes. So Kenshiro isn't that over the caps...

Spiderman isn't the strength cap, that's just "token char" for low meta level.