The big 10 vs all of marvel

Originally posted by Bransolute
The Monitor did nothing of the sort... and like 5 universes were left over from the Anti-Monitor's assault.

So, I'm wondering where this actually happened.

Yeah good point, he did say Monitor, not anti-monitor, I had assumed he was talking about the A.M. though, but who knows.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
1. Yuga khan
2. Extant
3. Anti-monitor
4. Darkseid
5. Imperex prime
6. High Evolutionary
7. Harold
8. Tyrant (full)
9. Walker
10. Superboy prime (adult)

Many of these characters are defeated even before the battle starts. Lets just have the infinites take out SBP, Walker, Tyrant, High E, DS and Yuga Khan. They can have Eternity there for support if needed, but don't know that they will.

Basically I am hearing people argue that AM>LT and I don't see it that way. So the basic argument comes to if anyone can take on the LT and I don't think anyone on the list can.

So Marvel FTW

Originally posted by Photon009
No, he's not. Not even close to LT level. At best he's 2x Galactus.

If Extant has the Worlogog here -- I see him as the biggest threat to the MU.

bump

PR Beyonder
Thanos w/HOTU
Big G

nuff said.......

Originally posted by Hitman911
PR Beyonder
Thanos w/HOTU
Big G

nuff said.......

Thanos with the artifact would win but that is a gay way to win

Big G wouldnt kill all of them

yeah. If Extant's got the Worlogog then he's the major concern, not the AM.

although... the Worlogog has been described as a map of all time and all space. By affecting the Worlogog, you affect that part of time and space- IE, you have complete control of everything within the boundaries of space time- ergo, complete control of the DC universe. Which is why it's the most powerful artifact in the DCU, especially because of it's ability to bequeath control over Hypertime.

My question, and I could very well be wrong about this: Wouldn't the Worlogog only be effective within the confines of the DCU? It's ability comes from it mapping out all of reality- but only DC reality. Wouldn't that lead to the conclusion that in a reality which does not conform to anything it maps out- ie, the Marvel Multiverse- it would be negligible? It would be a like a map that allowed you to control all of North America being used in Europe- useless.

I mean, I'm familiar with its uses within Morrison's Rock of Ages storyline, and I'm fairly familiar with the Hourman series... but I definitely haven't seen every time the Worlogog has been used, so it could also be a reservoir of enormous power in and of itself, thus making my point moot.

Well the rules of the battle dome say that everything's properties extend to the battle

that means what works in marvel works in dc and vice versa

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Well the rules of the battle dome say that everything's properties extend to the battle

that means what works in marvel works in dc and vice versa

that really doesn't mesh with the fundamental nature of the artifact. It was more of a curious thought than an actual argument. Kinda like whether or not Kid Eternity could summon Barry Allen or Ted Kord, or whether or not Adam Warlock with the Soul Gem could affect Swamp Thing. You know. Comic mysteries.

LT

1. Yuga khan vs Master Order
2. Extant vs Infintes
3. Anti-monitor vs Nemesis or Asteroth
4. Darkseid vs Agamotto/Vishanti
5. Imperex prime vs Hunger/Universal Parasite
6. High Evolutionary vs Aron the Rogue Watcher- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Aron
7. Harold vs 8th Day Juggernaut
8. Tyrant (full) vs Xorr the God Jewell or Overlord
9. Walker vs Mistress Death
10. Superboy prime (adult) vs Gladiator/Captain Universe powers

Xorr the God Jewel- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/xorrtgj.htm

Overlord- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/overlrds.htm

Nemesise- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/nemesise.htm

Asteroth- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/asterothbrb.htm

Originally posted by tjcoady
yeah. If Extant's got the Worlogog then he's the major concern, not the AM.

although... the Worlogog has been described as a map of all time and all space. By affecting the Worlogog, you affect that part of time and space- IE, you have complete control of everything within the boundaries of space time- ergo, complete control of the DC universe. Which is why it's the most powerful artifact in the DCU, especially because of it's ability to bequeath control over Hypertime.

My question, and I could very well be wrong about this: Wouldn't the Worlogog only be effective within the confines of the DCU? It's ability comes from it mapping out all of reality- but only DC reality. Wouldn't that lead to the conclusion that in a reality which does not conform to anything it maps out- ie, the Marvel Multiverse- it would be negligible? It would be a like a map that allowed you to control all of North America being used in Europe- useless.

I mean, I'm familiar with its uses within Morrison's Rock of Ages storyline, and I'm fairly familiar with the Hourman series... but I definitely haven't seen every time the Worlogog has been used, so it could also be a reservoir of enormous power in and of itself, thus making my point moot.

That's a good point (re: it's effectiveness), but I think for forum battles it's assumed to be at full effectiveness. Otherwise the IG wouldn't work against DC characters, as it's been established that the IG does not work in DC. (though it does across all of marvel and the ultraverse.)

the worlogog isn't really a factor though, since

1.) It can and was destroyed by superman's heat vision...meaning it can be taken out by a being with sufficient power

and

2.) The HOTU, the IG, and the Tribunal ALSO are stated to have "complete control" over time and space, and a sufficient amount of cosmic containment units (let's say somewhere between 5 and 30) would essentially accomplish the same thing.

If The tribunal can reverse the time related effects of the infinity gauntlet with no effort simply by saying so, I don't give the worlogog good odds against him. The remainder (HOTU, IG, CCUs) are pretty self explanatory- incalculable (if not unlimited) control over not just time, but also reality and in the IG's case, power, the mind, and the soul as well.

hell, there's enough CCU's in marvel that everyone could simply get one, and render themselves unstoppable.

The Worlogog is powerful, but any of those simply outclass it.

Originally posted by golem370
1. Yuga khan vs Master Order
2. Extant vs Infintes
3. Anti-monitor vs Nemesis or Asteroth
4. Darkseid vs Agamotto/Vishanti
5. Imperex prime vs Hunger/Universal Parasite
6. High Evolutionary vs Aron the Rogue Watcher- http://en.marveldatabase.com/Aron
7. Harold vs 8th Day Juggernaut
8. Tyrant (full) vs Xorr the God Jewell or Overlord
9. Walker vs Mistress Death
10. Superboy prime (adult) vs Gladiator/Captain Universe powers

Xorr the God Jewel- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/xorrtgj.htm

Overlord- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/overlrds.htm

Nemesise- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/nemesise.htm

Asteroth- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/asterothbrb.htm

nice

but your 9 and 10 lose

I thought Death beat Walker? Alright Supeboy Prime (Adult) vs Rune King Thor

Originally posted by golem370
I thought Death beat Walker? Alright Supeboy Prime (Adult) vs Rune King Thor

In a slugfest I still win but rkt takes this with his magical might

How about Anomaly- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/AnomalyI.htm vs Walker

In a slugfest how about Ymir vs Superboy Prime