Sephiroth vs. Fortinbras, God of Light

Started by Shin_Nikkolas6 pages

It's Sephiroth's will that holds back Holy.

Unless you can expressly quantify will into mental powers with a quote in the game, your assumption he mentally holds it back is unfounded.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
And then got pwned. Some impressive TK right there. Apparently, it only works against people who don't fight back, when they do, it is ineffective.
😆 😂 🤣

You can't talk about Seph that way! 😠

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
It's Sephiroth's will that holds back Holy.

Unless you can expressly quantify will into mental powers with a quote in the game, your assumption he mentally holds it back is unfounded.

Exactly.

Let me see if I understand... You are saying that willpower and telekinesis have nothing to do with mental power?! That holding back a "physical" energy(Holy could touch and destroy things) without touching it, is not telekinesis?!

Oh. My. God.

He. Used. His. Will. Saying it was TK is merely speculation.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
He. Used. His. Will. Saying it was TK is merely speculation.

Than he can use his willpower to hold physical things, like Holy. But it's not telekinesis, because it's not called "telekinesis". And it don't have anything to do with mental power, because it was never been called "mental power". 🙄

"Willpower", "telekinesis", and "mental power" are just words.

His willpower can do the same thing TK can, that's the point. Unless you believe he was holding Holy with his hands. 🙄 But that's completelly wrong, as proved in the game.

Because Seph's will is sumthin that is spoken highly in FFVII for one thing, it is described as phenomenolly powerful.

YouTube video

Starts around :57

*a light and aura appears*

Jr. How are you doing that?

Albedo: This is the power of will.

So, is Xenosaga like FFVII? Not at all. But it shows that “will” can be almost anything. So assuming it’s some form of Tk is folly.

In additon, after Sephiroth’s body and brain (you know, the thing that does telekinesis) were destroyed, his will prevented himself from becoming one with the Lifestream.

Will as they present it in FFVII is some sort of inner-spiritual power.

Tk has nothing to do with it.

Yepperz. Fortinbras easily has the better TK.

Will as they present it in FFVII is some sort of inner-spiritual power.

Tk has nothing to do with it.

How many times does it have to be explained that will is mental, mental powers used to effect an object physically is telekinesis. Please, stop arguing semantics.

Also, V2D, what happened to the Darth Nihilus theme? I liked it better.

Will is spiritual and nothing more.

It just happens in FFVII memories are connected to the spirit.

This is a common theme with you but I'll try to put the past behind us here.

I dare you to provide one quote from the game or any official source saying "will = mental". Or anything of the kind.

Will is spiritual and nothing more.

It just happens in FFVII memories are connected to the spirit.

No, the spirit is connected to everything in FF VII chracters bodies, but that doesn't mean their mental or physical beings are just spiritual because they are connected.

This is a common theme with you but I'll try to put the past behind us here.

As long as you can keep your temper under control and not throw a tantrum, I think we can keep the past behind us.

I dare you to provide one quote from the game or any official source saying "will = mental". Or anything of the kind.

How about the dictionary? According to Merriam-Webster's, Will: mental powers manifested as wishing, choosing, desiring, or intending

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Also, V2D, what happened to the Darth Nihilus theme? I liked it better.
Darth Nihilus wasn't curbstomping Seph hard enough, so I brought out someone who could solo FFVII with his pinky finger. 😛 JK(well, Pyron could solo FFVII with his pinky)

Your sig needs about 60% more lightsaber.

Nope.

In the real world, your will can not effect anything directly outside of yourself. Your will can drive YOu to effect things but the will itself is nothing more than a mindset.

I can not apply my will and stop something. I can will my arm to go out and stop it but the will itself does jack shit.

So, using a real world definition about FFVII's will fails.

So, get to the game and provide a quote.

How do you not understand this? Will is mental power according to definition, mental power affecting something physically is TK. I don't need a quote from the game because that's already an established fact. Please, quit arguing semantics, you're only showing that you lost but can't admit it, and that is what led to you getting banned.

Are you a perpetual liar?

I was banned because of this:

Me:
I'm a patient person.

I accept you're slow mentally.

So, I'll ask a FINAL TIME.

Prove, from the game or an official source, that Terra exploding would destroy Gaia.

You:
I'll accept this lack of proof for your claims as you conceding, thanks for finally admitting you are in the wrong.

I asked for facts stating something.

You responded by saying you won.

It's your arrogance that got me banned.

If you think exploding in a rage because of an internet message board is "reasonable", you should probably seek counseling. You were banned because you fliped out at being proven wrong.

Its a little sad when you have to ignore everyone who bests you.

You ARE a perpetual liar.

Proven wrong?

I asked you for proof and you refused to post it.

Your Claim: If Terra was in Gaia and Terra exploded, so would Gaia.

But guess what...yOU DIDN'T PROVEN THIS EVER.

I asked for a quote.

You refused to post it.

I asked again.

You refused.

You proved nothing.