Originally posted by Burning thoughtso now Dimitri can't cuz you've never seen him do it canonly, i guess Ryu can't do the Denjin Hadouken cuz he's never done it canonly, that's laughable.
1. nah..in-game isnt good enough m8, you have to show the canon, not game mechanics, thats where you fail right there you see 😉
if he has the move in his arsenal, he can do it.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtsee that's the problem, you people don't listen, i cuss all the time, go read my post in the respect sakura thread, i cussed there too, I guess I was angry then too, huh?
2. why do people always think ime angry lol...if i was angry or stressed i wouldnt go on a forum to debate and id prob swear alot too, like you actually.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtF-U-C-K-E-D up, slang term for, "you have me misunderstood"
[QUOTE=9800321]Originally posted by Burning thought
[B]3. i what you up?
Originally posted by Burning thoughtYou fail dawg, you keep talkin shit bout none of my claims have been backed up, but i only speak on what has already been proven...
none of them are fanboys, youll fail right there for being one since you dont back up any claims yourself, as ive said before at least V2D and fire ninja try to back up some claims and succeed in some. Also theres no DS character that can beat the characters i like.....okie Kratos but hes prob one of the only ones.
YOU phail my friend
Originally posted by Burning thoughtWho said that and show me where?
theres a massive list, ill give you some to try and proveMakai soul=power of 1000 world destructions each
tonnes of stuff on Jedah but i know you cant prove him, nobody can
Originally posted by Burning thoughtSlowing time is pointless if the characters you face can get to point A to point B INSTANTLY, in NO TIME.
i dont know about Kosmos but kain controls time, completly stop no, slow it so it may as well be stopped, yes ofcourse we dont know his potential, so its pontless, all we know for fact is he controls time to a degree.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtRight.
if were a joke, your an entire comedy book
Originally posted by Diamond KissesWhen character B is so much more powerful than character(or should I say cast heheh) C, A can beat C. That is the only exception.
[b]Were you not the one saying that A > B > C logic fail? And you were holding onto it tight ermmI guess Darkstalker has a logic of their own shrug
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Originally posted by Burning thought
i just told you one, the makai soul thing, just one step at a time
I was waiting for you to pull some stunt like this.
Originally posted by Burning thought
come to think of it, most of the Jedah things have already been proven false so their not on the list anymore
What things, be specific.
Originally posted by Your G.O.D
so now Dimitri can't cuz you've never seen him do it canonly, i guess Ryu can't do the Denjin Hadouken cuz he's never done it canonly, that's laughable.if he has the move in his arsenal, he can do it.
see that's the problem, you people don't listen, i cuss all the time, go read my post in the respect sakura thread, i cussed there too, I guess I was angry then too, huh?
F-U-C-K-E-D up, slang term for, "you have me misunderstood"
You fail dawg, you keep talkin shit bout none of my claims have been backed up, but i only speak on what has already been proven...
YOU phail my friend
Who said that and show me where?
Slowing time is pointless if the characters you face can get to point A to point B INSTANTLY, in NO TIME.
Right.
no you now have me ****ed up, you see i didnt say he could not have the move, just that him using it on that robot is game mechanics, unless you cannot show me him canonically using it on the robot, then you phail and its use on the robot does not add up to any proof on it working on anything other than what it says it can do.
if you cuss all the time, this is not the forum for you "points to rules" now leave the forums if your going to cuss 😉
you claim things have already been proven yet if i ask you what has been proven you cannot tell me, how funny.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Jedah absorbed 33,000,000,000 souls, each had at least 10 times
okie its 10x but this is still to be proven in my eyes, please show me what states this and what says each soul has the power and not the normal makai themselves.
slowing time is pointless...they wont be gong there instant would they if time is slowed, if they move to a place instantly in normal time flow, it would be reduced if time itself was slowed by the factor of time reduction, also reactions would be reduced, the brain waves, everything, light itself will be slowing down so kain is likely to look invisible to those who are slowing down.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
I was waiting for you to pull some stunt like this.What things, be specific.
Originally posted by Burning thought
his dimension destroying and creating
This was proven already, but rather than be unproductive:
"Story: Jedah, the lord of the Dohma clan, awoke from his century long sleep.He believes that he is the one that needs to recreate life by fusing allsouls into one life form, "the Shintai". To do this, he creates the Majigen and summons those with worthy souls into his realm."
http://www.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/583725/25007
Originally posted by Burning thought
, it seems these are all void in debates because he uses souls to do it.....no souls in the debate unless he usess his oppnenets,
He did not use any souls to create Majigen. As for destroying them, I always stated that he needs prep for that.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
This was proven already, but rather than be unproductive:"Story: Jedah, the lord of the Dohma clan, awoke from his century long sleep.He believes that he is the one that needs to recreate life by fusing allsouls into one life form, "the Shintai". To do this, he creates the Majigen and summons those with worthy souls into his realm."
http://www.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/583725/25007
He did not use any souls to create Majigen. As for destroying them, I always stated that he needs prep for that.
yes i see now, everything there shows that hes taking souls and sending them into the baby by the looks if things...so.....that doesnt show him destroying any dimension, hes jsut taking souls, killing a population doesnt neccerily mean hes going to destroy the entire dimension..nothing on there states this. Also it says "he belives" some of these things in the story....if he just bleives does not neccerily make it true...see, this is proof alone that your so called "proof" is not actually solid proof of anything tbh unless you have more evidence
also about making the majigen V2D has said he made it from Ozmordu (dunno his name) soul....is V2D lieing?
Originally posted by Burning thought
yes i see now, everything there shows that hes taking souls and sending them into the baby by the looks if things...so.....that doesnt show him destroying any dimension
Read the dialouge, the ending consist of more then just pictures.
Originally posted by Burning thought
, hes jsut taking souls, killing a population doesnt neccerily mean hes going to destroy the entire dimension.
Even though that's his goal and his ending implies he did?
Originally posted by Burning thought
.nothing on there states this. Also it says "he belives" some of these things in the story....if he just bleives does not neccerily make it true...see, this is proof alone that your so called "proof" is not actually solid proof of anything tbh unless you have more evidence
Because your not reading it, he clearly states that he has to destroy the human world next.
Originally posted by Burning thought
also about making the majigen V2D has said he made it from Ozmordu (dunno his name) soul....is V2D lieing?
Nowhere is that mention in the canon or in-game.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Read the dialouge, the ending consist of more then just pictures.Even though that's his goal and his ending implies he did?
Because your not reading it, he clearly states that he has to destroy the human world next.
Nowhere is that mention in the canon or in-game.
ofcourse i read it, he mentions worlds...Earth...makai..dimensions? nopes...is there anything to actually show that hes actually destroyed the makai world even? taking the souls doesnt destroy the world..simple..
heres something else to prove, how does he create the majigen?
Originally posted by Burning thought
ofcourse i read it, he mentions worlds...Earth...makai..dimensions?
He says human world which is the universe that humans reside in. 😬
Originally posted by Burning thought
nopes...is there anything to actually show that hes actually destroyed the makai world even?
Doesn't have too, he mentions destroying the Human World and another undisclosed world which is most likely Makai.
Originally posted by Burning thought
taking the souls doesnt destroy the world..simple..
He does both though.
Originally posted by Burning thought
heres something else to prove, how does he create the majigen?
Who knows, why would I have to prove that, though?
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
He says human world which is the universe that humans reside in. 😬Doesn't have too, he mentions destroying the Human World and another undisclosed world which is most likely Makai.
He does both though.
Who knows, why would I have to prove that, though?
prove this, since when does human world mean the whole universe, now thats some hyper right there, the world is the Earth, we dont say..the World is exapnding we say the "universe" is expanding....understand? prove he means the universe
no see now your not reading, he menstions hes going to try to destroy it next, wether he succeeds or not who knows.
he does both? when does it say he destroys the actual planet? i mean we can see the souls so hes taken makais souls, if you cannot prove then "shrug"
Originally posted by Burning thought
prove this, since when does human world mean the whole universe, now thats some hyper right there, the world is the Earth, we dont say..the World is exapnding we say the "universe" is expanding....understand? prove he means the universe
Makai is considered to be the a completely separate realm from the earth. As shown in it's description, it's not a planet:
The Gate, a distortion in space which connects the human world and Makai
I doubt they would use cosmological terms due to poetic license. It's obvious that Makai is a completely different universe, because if it was just another planet they would mention it like they did with planet Hellstorm.
Another refrence to makai being a different realm:
Many creatures from Makai has already flowed into the human world. Many of these creatures have high values for humans. Items usable for decorations, materials that doesn't exist in the human world
Humans who wander
into Makai by accident are classified in this class.
I don't see how it would be possible for Makai and Humans to wonder into "other planets".
If makai were aliens from space, they would be classifeid in the same catergory as pyron who is not considered a Makai or Human. He's said to be Alien, if the Makai were aleins they would be counted in that catergory as well.
Originally posted by Burning thought
no see now your not reading, he menstions hes [B]going to try to destroy it next, wether he succeeds or not who knows. [/B]
I did not say he did, I said he could.
Originally posted by Burning thought
he does both? when does it say he destroys the actual planet? i mean we can see the souls so hes taken makais souls, if you cannot prove then "shrug"
It implies like I said before. He obviously destroyed a world that is not the human world, and it could only be Makai or Majigen. Those are the only universes left.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Makai is considered to be the a completely separate realm from the earth. As shown in it's description:The Gate, a distortion in space which connects the human world and Makai
I doubt they would use cosmological terms due to poetic license. It's obvious that Makai is a completely different universe, because if it was just another planet they would mention it like they did with planet Hellstorm. another refrence to makai being a different realm:
Many creatures from Makai has already flowed into the human world. Many of these creatures have high values for humans. Items usable for decorations, materials that doesn't exist in the human world
Humans who wander
into Makai by accident are classified in this class.I don't see how it would be possible for Makai and humans to wonder into "other planets".
I did not say he did, I said he could.
It implies like I said before.
apparently the Makai gate itself is on the planet itself so it wouldnt make any less sense at all of them walking onto another world, explain to me how Humans could walk onto another planet without there being a portal there...
yes i grasp Makai is in an alternate realm/reality but theres still nothing to suggest he destroyed its entire dimension..nor to suggest that hes going to destroy more than just the "world" of Earth....you bring up poetic license to try and cover your failing argument.
Originally posted by Burning thought
apparently the Makai gate itself is on the planet itself so it wouldnt make any less sense at all of them walking onto another world, explain to me how Humans could walk onto another planet without there being a portal there...
You missed the point, it's not about the fact that they are connected by gates. Many Makai have history in the human world or live their. The two worlds are intimately connected in some shape of form.
That much is obvious, Makai are well known in Human legends and Humans are acknowledge by the Makai.
Originally posted by Burning thought
yes i grasp Makai is in an alternate realm/reality but theres still nothing to suggest he destroyed its entire dimension..nor to suggest that hes going to destroy more than just the "world" of Earth....you bring up poetic license to try and cover your failing argument.
Because your not reading the dialogue. He mentions the origins of Makai and states that he must destroy this world. So, he's obviously talking about Makai.
Jedah's speech more then enough evidence to does who know about DS.
From his ending:
". . .It is said, that all life began with on life form"
"To correct the errors of this world, I shall go back"
Okay, lets examine what he's saying. The first sentence is clearly a reference to Makai. Because, Makai is believed to be created by one Life form according to legend:
"It is written in the "Makai Souseiki/Genesis of Makai" that Makai is the
body of god itself. The "first lifeform" appeared through emptiness and it is the one who created Makai.
second sentence has to do with Jedah's goal, and that is to recreate everything. The whole "Going back" metaphor is clearly an allusion to this goal.
"He was always distressed about the future of Makai. He believes that if Makai left to rule by Belial, it would grow old and begin to decay."
"Story: Jedah, the lord of the Dohma clan, awoke from his century long sleep. He believes that he is the one that needs to recreate life by fusing all souls into one life form, "the Shintai". To do this, he creates the Majigen and summons those with worthy souls into his realm."
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
He did use Ozomu's soul to make the Majigen dudes. As for how he destroyed it, don't know. Makai itself is only a planet, or at least, the living space is equivelant to one, as it has barriers around it to keep from leaving. Jedah did destroy and remake the dimension.
The mainland of Makai is as big as a planet. The size of the rest of Makai is unknown due to the barrier. Your right about Ozum, though.