Originally posted by AvlonFar faster... I'm still curious as to where Doomsday's speed comes from... 'cause I've only really seen good reflexes, and some odd running feats.
When your enemy is far faster, stronger, and more durable than you...and relentless on top of that....it's extremely difficult to get a win.
He doesn't have to win... he has to survive/hold him off.
Originally posted by Bransolute
Far faster... I'm still curious as to where Doomsday's speed comes from... 'cause I've only really seen good reflexes, and some odd running feats.He doesn't have to win... he has to survive/hold him off.
Hulk is just as durable as Thor and has a healing factor...He'd last longer.
I never stated Thor winning...his speed or lack of it is a hindrance.
Originally posted by Avlon
Depends...I don't see any of them as being fast enough to do it in an 1 on 1 fight.
You don't think Surfer is fast enough? He can travel a thousand light years in a blink of an eye.
I think Surfer would last the longest if properly written. His skin has been shown to be virtually impenetrable; he can duplicate any energy signature, so if Doomsday adapts to one he can simply switch spectrums. He is easily fast enough to avoid Doomsday in hand to hand, and also has the ability to transmute living life forms.
Surfer would last the longest as he is the fastest and most versatile character of the bunch -two things together-, he also has all kinds of weird resources at hand such as becoming atomic-sized, intangible and throwing different energies off his ass.
That is off course unless Hal can actually copy Doomsday's DNA on himself, which would make him the clear winner.
Surfer could probably beat DD.
Surfer simply needs to prevent DD from touching him (that's assuming DD could significantly hurt him in the first place) and that's not a problem for Surfer.
Hulk would last the longest, after Surfer, simply because he can take insane amounts of pain and regenerate at incredible speeds. also he could probably knock DD back a few times too. Thunderclaps may help to keep DD at bay awhile.
Originally posted by janus77
Surfer could probably beat DD.
Surfer simply needs to prevent DD from touching him (that's assuming DD could significantly hurt him in the first place) and that's not a problem for Surfer.Hulk would last the longest, after Surfer, simply because he can take insane amounts of pain and regenerate at incredible speeds. also he could probably knock DD back a few times too. Thunderclaps may help to keep DD at bay awhile.
Surfer would have to go intangible (which is rare) at the start of the fight to win.
Hulk wouldn't last that long. DD is capable of breaking both Hulk's arms at the start of the fight. Thunderclaps wont help anyway because DD can close his auditory canals.
Hal and the Surfer would last the longest and have a shot at winning. Then Superman - assuming he's fighting intelligently - because he knows what this Doomsday is capable of, and he could easily fly circles around him. Then the Hulk, who is insanely durable with an amazing healing factor. Then Thor, who is prone to getting close enough to be demolished. Then Wolverine who....really shouldn't even be in this thread.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Surfer would have to go intangible (which is rare) at the start of the fight to win.Hulk wouldn't last that long. DD is capable of breaking both Hulk's arms at the start of the fight. Thunderclaps wont help anyway because DD can close his auditory canals.
Hulk would simply recover in a panel IF DD could break his arms, that's not gonna do much to stop him.
DD's not overpowering him any time soon, it'll drag out over a long period.
Surfer's just too versatile, fast, powerful and has Cosmic Awareness which can augment his DNA mucking skills... SS kills DD imo.
Originally posted by janus77
the Thunderclaps wouldn't merely affect the auditory canals, their physical effects would be to throw DD back some distance.Hulk would simply recover in a panel IF DD could break his arms, that's not gonna do much to stop him.
DD's not overpowering him any time soon, it'll drag out over a long period.
Surfer's just too versatile, fast, powerful and has Cosmic Awareness which can augment his DNA mucking skills... SS kills DD imo.
Hulk has little to no chance of beating dd the reason he would last any amount of time is due to his durability and his healing factor.
Originally posted by Kutulu
You don't think Surfer is fast enough? He can travel a thousand light years in a blink of an eye.I think Surfer would last the longest if properly written. His skin has been shown to be virtually impenetrable; he can duplicate any energy signature, so if Doomsday adapts to one he can simply switch spectrums. He is easily fast enough to avoid Doomsday in hand to hand, and also has the ability to transmute living life forms.
Surfer travels this fast while on his board and even while on the board...he enters hyperspace once he hits a certain speed. His foot speed and fighting speed have never been impressive.
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Hulk has little to no chance of beating dd the reason he would last any amount of time is due to his durability and his healing factor.
I just don't see a genuine argument for saying Hulk wouldn't make for a seriously loooong fight.
the reason I put the Surfer ahead is because Surfer has the tools to completely take apart a genetic experiment like DD.
global DNA altering skills are just not to be dismissed, ever.
aside from that, I doubt Surfer would be able to take the same levels of punishment The Hulk can, and come back infinitely stronger.
Originally posted by h1a8
Actually all here would die very quickly from a claw send to the brain. The way it went through Superman's shoulder like liquid has me convinced that it will go through wolverine's skull just as easily.
So because DD cut Superman, who's had his skin broken a few times, is proof enough that he'd go through Wolverines adamantium skull, which has never ever been broken?
This post is the reason why Superman is so hated on vs forums.
Illogical pitfalls like this.
Originally posted by janus77
by the same token, what can DD offer to even temporarily put down The Hulk?I just don't see a genuine argument for saying Hulk wouldn't make for a seriously loooong fight.
the reason I put the Surfer ahead is because Surfer has the tools to completely take apart a genetic experiment like DD.
global DNA altering skills are just not to be dismissed, ever.aside from that, I doubt Surfer would be able to take the same levels of punishment The Hulk can, and come back infinitely stronger.
Surfers Durability >>>>>Hulk's Durability and Surfer can amp his strength with the power cosmic.
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Surfers Durability >>>>>Hulk's Durability and Surfer can amp his strength with the power cosmic.
Surfer has hard limits, with regards to amping, he can't hold as much power as Hulk can.
Originally posted by janus77
gonna disagree on both parts.
Surfer's great but he's far more fragile than Hulk.
what Zom/Strange did to Hulk, what Hulk's gone through in general, I think it would kill Surfer in an instant.
Then you're just plain wrong, because the Surfer's suffered through much much worse.
Originally posted by janus77
gonna disagree on both parts.
Surfer's great but he's far more fragile than Hulk.
what Zom/Strange did to Hulk, what Hulk's gone through in general, I think it would kill Surfer in an instant.Surfer has hard limits, with regards to amping, he can't hold as much power as Hulk can.
You dont actually think the hulk can beat the surfer?