Odin vs. Galactus

Originally posted by Utrigita
No it wasn't But I'm not sure if it was only the power of Galactus ore if the items he used to steal galactus power was added to the power from Galactus that Doom Absorbed.

Doom had a cosmic cube, and the cosmic control rod as well. But that's irrelevant, since what he used those items for was to enable himself to drain the power of galactus.

If the power of the Cosmic Cube plus the Rod was greater than Galactus, or even really close then stealing galactus' power wouldn't have been necessary.

and as we've already seen, the power of ONE cosmic cube GREATLY outclasses anything Odin has at his disposal.

Originally posted by Xplosive
As you can remember, Galactus wanted to absorb the Universe (so thus destroying it), Phoenix Force had no trouble destroying the Universe (and it actually did it, no one stopped it), while in Galactus case, F4 are the one who went to stop him.

Maybe because with that one Universe she would stop Galactus on the other hand would continue to feast he would never stop.

And Galactus alone said the power source of Phoenix Force is greater than his own.[/B]

Thats because Galactus doesn't have the luxery of drawing countless energy from unborn generations but in the Black Celestial act he was devouring everything around him star planets time and space all was going down the drain, in that Version Phoenix attacks would only be like throwing candies inside a mount of a 300 kilo man and expecting him to get fed.

PF alone stops him.[/B]

I could actually turn it around where Was Phoenix when Galactus was eating that Universe??? The line of a plot friend

And you have group of higher cosmic power that would stop him. [/B]

Like LT... come on names please.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Doom had a cosmic cube, and the cosmic control rod as well. But that's irrelevant, since what he used those items for was to enable himself to drain the power of galactus.

If the power of the Cosmic Cube plus the Rod was greater than Galactus, or even really close then [b]stealing galactus' power wouldn't have been necessary.

and as we've already seen, the power of ONE cosmic cube GREATLY outclasses anything Odin has at his disposal. [/B]

Easy I just said that it wasn't a what if and that I didn't knew if the other items was added to the power of Galactus. And I get the picture.

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Originally posted by Utrigita
Easy I just said that it wasn't a what if and that I didn't knew if the other items was added to the power of Galactus. And I get the picture.

no worries. but..yeah. Odin's showings, even his high end ones don't really put him on Galactus' level. Hell, Odin isn't even truly immortal. he needs the apples plus the odinsleep to keep from dying of old age.

Galactus can render beings immortal (or at the very least as long lived as the surfer, or the fallen one who's a good deal older) just by saying so.

advantage: galactus

Originally posted by Utrigita
Maybe because with that one Universe she would stop Galactus on the other hand would continue to feast he would never stop.

PF destroyed easily Universe. We can assume as you assume for G, it could spread easily. Galactus didn't do anything.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Thats because Galactus doesn't have the luxery of drawing countless energy from unborn generations but in the Black Celestial act he was devouring everything around him star planets time and space all was going down the drain, in that Version Phoenix attacks would only be like throwing candies inside a mount of a 300 kilo man and expecting him to get fed.

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You are so sure on that, based on what. You answered yourself, ''Thats because Galactus doesn't have the luxery of drawing countless energy from unborn generations'', that makes PF more powerful entity.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I could actually turn it around where Was Phoenix when Galactus was eating that Universe??? The line of a plot friend

Do you know where it was? I don't? Maybe it didn't even care.
We also didn't see PF being destroyed by THOTU, while we saw hereos and other cosmic powerhouses. Where was the PF? I don't know. Do you?

Originally posted by Utrigita
Like LT... come on names please.

LT would have no trouble. Look, why to name them, because you know.
There are many cosmic powerhouses that with combined effort would stop Galactus.

Originally posted by Xplosive
PF destroyed easily Universe. We can assume as you assume for G, it could spread easily. Galactus didn't do anything.

Other then being a thread to the multiverse 🙂 I don't think Phoenix have had that mark on her yet.

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You are so sure on that, based on what. You answered yourself, ''Thats because Galactus doesn't have the luxery of drawing countless energy from unborn generations'', that makes PF more powerful entity.[/B]

In a way it is true that she has access to a unlimeted source of energy that is saved for future generation but in theory here isn't a unlimeted number of indivudels in the next universe. Also I would say Galactus is a more powerful entity and you are forgetting why Galactus loses energy and what it is he is withstraying.

Do you know where it was? I don't? Maybe it didn't even care.
We also didn't see PF being destroyed by THOTU, while we saw hereos and other cosmic powerhouses. Where was the PF? I don't know. Do you?[/B]

that is the worst explination ever Xplosive, it is inlogical to assume that Phoenix didn't care about the IG ore the Hotu ore Galactus devouring a entire universe when we have seen the way she tries to stop the death of one universe I would say she didn't inteferer because she couldn't do anything about it same for the universe that was destroyed by Phoenix Galactus didn't inteferer because he couldn't stop her.

LT would have no trouble. Look, why to name them, because you know.
There are many cosmic powerhouses that with combined effort would stop Galactus. [/B]

Not the Black Celestial act Galactus which only the UN could stop how many beings is above the UN 😬 not many that would get themselves involved in any way.

Originally posted by Utrigita
In a way it is true that she has access to a unlimeted source of energy that is saved for future generation but in theory here isn't a unlimeted number of indivudels in the next universe. Also I would say Galactus is a more powerful entity and you are forgetting why Galactus loses energy and what it is he is withstraying.

You answered again ''you are forgetting why Galactus loses energy and what it is he is withstraying'', how can he be then a more powerful entity.
And the way he talked to Rachel, it was, like he new Phoenix is a more powerful being.
Ane twice he wasn't match for Rachel. And he said, her power source is greater

Originally posted by Utrigita
that is the worst explination ever Xplosive, it is inlogical to assume that Phoenix didn't care about the IG ore the Hotu ore Galactus devouring a entire universe when we have seen the way she tries to stop the death of one universe I would say she didn't inteferer because she couldn't do anything about it same for the universe that was destroyed by Phoenix Galactus didn't inteferer because he couldn't stop her.

No, how can you think that. She wasn't there, because she couldn't stop it. Wow.
But beings like Gladiator, Thor, Hulk,... and other super heroes , who are insignificant in power to the Phoenix Force, and cosmic beings that are not powerful like PF, fought against THOTU. 🙂

Originally posted by Xplosive
You answered again ''you are forgetting why Galactus loses energy and what it is he is withstraying'', how can he be then a more powerful entity.

Because if he didn't have to constantly Worry about Abraxas the entire Galactus idea would disappear but there you also have the reason why Galactus loses Energy Else his power levels would be never be decreasing.

And the way he talked to Rachel, it was, like he new Phoenix is a more powerful being.[/B]

I think Master has showed you that Jean=Rachel with the Phoenix Force, so I'm not going to do so again 🙂

Ane twice he wasn't match for Rachel. And he said, her power source is greater[/B]

Twice??? One time he was starving the second time she surrendered to him, whether she wanted to ore not she couldn't stop him from completing his task of erasing the Phoenix Force from Existence, then he would just have accomplished it himself without using the Technology which I hope you know is made to duplicate all Galactus abilities because he doesn't want to use energy accomplishing them.

No, how can you think that. She wasn't there, because she couldn't stop it. Wow.[/B]

Well it certainly better then yours "she didn't care" don't you think.

But beings like Gladiator, Thor, Hulk,... and other super heroes , who are insignificant in power to the Phoenix Force, and cosmic beings that are not powerful like PF, fought against THOTU. 🙂 [/B]

It just shows me that they have more gut then the Phoenix if anything, and nearly all the cosmic beings that attacked Thanos would be above the Phoenix Force. Eternity, Infinity, The Celestials 5th host, The LT and so forth.

And why is I even debating this with you restart the Phoenix Thread if you want to discuss it.

Again Galactus ftw.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Because if he didn't have to constantly Worry about Abraxas the entire Galactus idea would disappear but there you also have the reason why Galactus loses Energy Else his power levels would be never be decreasing.

I think Master has showed you that Jean=Rachel with the Phoenix Force, so I'm not going to do so again 🙂

Twice??? One time he was starving the second time she surrendered to him, whether she wanted to ore not she couldn't stop him from completing his task of erasing the Phoenix Force from Existence, then he would just have accomplished it himself without using the Technology which I hope you know is made to duplicate all Galactus abilities because he doesn't want to use energy accomplishing them.

Well it certainly better then yours "she didn't care" don't you think.

It just shows me that they have more gut then the Phoenix if anything, and nearly all the cosmic beings that attacked Thanos would be above the Phoenix Force. Eternity, Infinity, The Celestials 5th host, The LT and so forth.

Cool. Said enough.

Phoenix > G because she didn't get owned by the HOTU. Brilliant logic there. I suppose US agent > G as well, since he wasn't shown to get owned by the HOTU either.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Phoenix > G because she didn't get owned by the HOTU. Brilliant logic there. I suppose US agent > G as well, since he wasn't shown to get owned by the HOTU either.

Originally posted by Xplosive
We also didn't see PF being destroyed by THOTU, while we saw hereos and other cosmic powerhouses. Where was the PF? I don't know. Do you?

Brilliant Quallada, where from here you read Phoenix > G?.

I thought this was odin vs galactus how did the pheonix get into the debate?

Originally posted by Xplosive
Brilliant Quallada, where from here you read Phoenix > G?.

No, how can you think that. She wasn't there, because she couldn't stop it. Wow.

cosmic beings that are not powerful like PF, fought against THOTU

That is what you said. Let me ask, if you actually believe the drivel you wrote above, do you then believe that the PF would have made any difference at all against the HOTU?

APologies to everyone else for the digression.

Originally posted by Ouallada
if you actually believe the drivel you wrote above, do you then believe that the PF would have made any difference at all against the HOTU?

What are you tlaking about. Who said anything about making a difference. Who said anything that it seemed I believe that. I only said fact, that PF wasn't there, and you assume something on you own.

Originally posted by Ouallada
That is what you said. Let me ask, if you actually believe the drivel you wrote above, do you then believe that the PF would have made any difference at all against the HOTU?

APologies to everyone else for the digression.

No, Utrigita assumed that PF didn't interfere, because Phoenix couldn't stop him, while no one knows why Phoenix wasn't there (maybe writers just forgot it, who knows), but you can't read anywhere I said PF >G because of that.

Would Phoenix Force made a difference? No chance.

I guess that's the only way this debate has reached 4 pages and could potentially go longer...digressing from the topic and making it about Phoenix or others vs. Galactus. Because everyone knows Odin doesn't cut it.

Its a good match, but Galactus wins

If he's weak, Odin can win

Reading all the classic Thors, Odin was said to be omnipotent and rivaled Galactus

Originally posted by seaapple
I guess that's the only way this debate has reached 4 pages and could potentially go longer...digressing from the topic and making it about Phoenix or others vs. Galactus. Because everyone knows Odin doesn't cut it.

exactly 👆

Odin isn't in the same league where Galactus plays