Sentry vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um no, you pwned yourself when you said Gladiator was marvel's superman. You really pwned yourself when you said WWH was stronger than Superman. FAILED on so many lvls.

So you think Superman >> Gladiator >> WWH? Is that what you're saying?

And you know what, this is a debate forum. You DEBATE. You dont just say you're right and say everyone who doesnt agree with you is wrong. Especially when you're the one whose wrong. Now refute my specific points, if you can. I'd love to see you try.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
When Hulk can turn solar system sized wheels let me know.

Yea, and when Hulk has problems holding up the Daily Planet globe gimme a call.

When superman steps on earth and cause united states to tremble, give me a call.

When Hulk can make the whole planet shake from space let me know.

Yea, and when Hulk has problems holding up the Daily Planet globe gimme a call.

When has Superman?

Well lets compare it. Gladiator is basically Marvel's Superman. Black Bolt used his voice on Gladiator, and Glads was knocked the hell out for a while. And that was a whisper. Black Bolt SCREAMED at WWH and WWH got knocked back, but came right back and smashed Black Bolt.

Yes but Blackbolt >>>>>> Skrull bolt. Unless you think the real Black bolt could be impaled by a sharp piece of metal. Skrull Thor was vastly weaker than than the real one.

WWH was so powerful he was oneshotting The Thing, and crippling Colossus with ease. He also slowed the Juggernaut down to a snail's pace. Sentry was the only one who even had a chance at beating him. That was made perfectly clear. World War Hulk was unstoppable. And he would rape Superman pretty easily.

My God Thing and Colossus?!!! That's a Thanos level feat! Hulk didn't beat Juggernaut he battle field removed him then ran before Juggy could get back. It's not like Superman has superspeed or anything.

Superman isn't held back by being an unpopular character like Marvels superfast bricks are, that's why they loose. What hulk fan would by a hulk comic where Gladiator speedblitzes him then throws the hulk into space? Superman will use his powers to win.

Originally posted by Photon009
Well lets compare it. Gladiator is basically Marvel's Superman. Black Bolt used his voice on Gladiator, and Glads was knocked the hell out for a while. And that was a whisper. Black Bolt SCREAMED at WWH and WWH got knocked back, but came right back and smashed Black Bolt.

Also, this is the most powerful version of the Hulk ever. Meaning more powerful than the version whose beaten Thor's ass and gone toe-to-toe with Wonder Man, Namor, and Hercules at the same time. Thor > Superman, and Namor, Wondy, and Herc would take Superman as well pretty easily. Also meaning WWH is FAR more powerful than the version who one-punched an asteroid 2x the size of Earth. Superman needed Wonder Woman's help to move the moon, which is many times smaller than Earth. It also means WWH is more powerful than the version of the Hulk that put down Onslaught.

WWH was so powerful he was oneshotting The Thing, and crippling Colossus with ease. He also slowed the Juggernaut down to a snail's pace. Sentry was the only one who even had a chance at beating him. That was made perfectly clear. World War Hulk was unstoppable. And he would rape Superman pretty easily.

And they wouldve had Sentry and Hulk destroy the planet if they had been on some no-name planet, that's pretty obvious. But the writer cant make them destroy Earth, or even New York City because then that's like the end of their comics world. They cant have that happen. Use common sense dude.

Your first example of BB and gladiator just shows how ineffective Gladiator is. He even manage to lose to cannon ball. BB would have never gotten to scream at superman. he would be ash with a heat vision blast to the dome or missing his head. black bolt feat, only shows how much of an idiot the hulk is.

As for hulk being more powerful than thor, debatable since Thor has basically retconned his losses by saying he's not going to hold back anymore. Thor also didn't use any soul stealing, god blast, lighting, or anything against Hulk. That example fails.

One shotting something is much easier to do that slowly move something. didn't you take physics? one shotting an asteriod is a feat of the movement of the asteroid as well as hulks own durability and movement. Has nothign to do with strength alone. Superman flew thru one of jupiter's moons. You do know how big those moons are dont' you? let me give you a small hint, Jupiter is like 100 times bigger than earth.

You actually think WWH feats of one shotting the thing are impressive? Wonder Girl could do that if she wanted to. And colossuss has never been more than a class 100 tonner. Wonder Woman is class 60 million tons. And superman is surely class what ever the hell he needs to be.

When has Superman?

I dont have the exact issue number, but im sure someone around here has it. Someone help me out with a scan or issue number? Superman's also been KOed from a gas station exploding.

Yes but Blackbolt >>>>>> Skrull bolt. Unless you think the real Black bolt could be impaled by a sharp piece of metal. Skrull Thor was vastly weaker than than the real one.

If the whole Skrull thing is true, then that BB was a skrull when he fought Gladiator too. So nice try, but not good enough.

My God Thing and Colossus?!!! That's a Thanos level feat! Hulk didn't beat Juggernaut he battle field removed him then ran before Juggy could get back. It's not like Superman has superspeed or anything.

You think Superman could one-shot the Thing? No he cant. You think Superman could bend back Colossus' arms with ease like that, breaking them? Hell no. And you're right, Hulk did BFR Juggernaut, but before that, he had slowed Juggernaut to snail's pace, letting his body build up momentum, and then when he sidestepped Juggy, Juggy couldnt stop. That's why.

Superman isn't held back by being an unpopular character like Marvels superfast bricks are, that's why they loose. What hulk fan would by a hulk comic where Gladiator speedblitzes him then throws the hulk into space? Superman will use his powers to win.

Yea, and we all know how Superman tries to speedblitz people in every single fight he's in. Like that's all he does. Dont act like he uses his speed and everything better than Gladiator. Gladiator is not only stronger than Superman, but also faster, so that doesnt work. When Superman stands on the surface of a planet, and punches the ground a small handful of times, reducing the entire planet to pieces, gimme a call. Gladiator > Superman. And more importantly, WWH > Superman.

Your first example of BB and gladiator just shows how ineffective Gladiator is. He even manage to lose to cannon ball. BB would have never gotten to scream at superman. he would be ash with a heat vision blast to the dome or missing his head. black bolt feat, only shows how much of an idiot the hulk is.

Yea, and that's why Superman always does that. He always goes right for your head with a massive dose of heat vision....riiiiiight. Superman would lose to Black Bolt the same way Gladiator did, and Superman is weaker than Gladiator so we know Black Bolt can hold his own physically with Superman for a little bit before he gets overwhelmed,but by that point, BB uses his voice, and Supes is done. And Black Bolt is a much smarter fighter than Superman, just for the record.

As for hulk being more powerful than thor, debatable since Thor has basically retconned his losses by saying he's not going to hold back anymore. Thor also didn't use any soul stealing, god blast, lighting, or anything against Hulk. That example fails.

No, it doesnt. Once again you just prove how idiotic you are. Think about it, if you're holding back in a fight, and because of that, you're losing, then you're going to stop holding back. So when Thor was getting his ass kicked all those times, you think he was still holding back letting himself get pummeled? No way. And WWH is MUCH stronger than any Hulk Thor has faced in the past.

One shotting something is much easier to do that slowly move something. didn't you take physics? one shotting an asteriod is a feat of the movement of the asteroid as well as hulks own durability and movement. Has nothign to do with strength alone. Superman flew thru one of jupiter's moons. You do know how big those moons are dont' you? let me give you a small hint, Jupiter is like 100 times bigger than earth.

So, wait let's see, having trouble moving the moon is a better feat than onepunching an asteroid 2x the size of Earth. And if Superman was moving the moon so slow on purpose, then why did he need Wonder Woman's help? I'll tell you why. Because he couldnt move it on his own, and because even with Wonder Woman's help, the best they could do it move it slow. Oh, and btw, Jupiter's diameter is only 11 times the size of Earth. And i just looked it up, and 3/4 of Jupiter's moons are less than 10 kilometers in diameter, and it's largest moon is roughly 5,200 kilometers. The Earth's radius alone is over 1,000 kilometers bigger than that, and i believe the Earth altogether has something like a 13,000 kilometer diameter. And the asteroid Hulk punched was 2x the size of Earth. So yea...

Oh, and please show me Wonder Woman lifting 60 million tons, or Wonder Girl or even Wonder Woman (or even Superman) one punching something twice the size of Earth. Please, go ahead.

Originally posted by Photon009
Yea, and that's why Superman always does that. He always goes right for your head with a massive dose of heat vision....riiiiiight. Superman would lose to Black Bolt the same way Gladiator did, and Superman is weaker than Gladiator so we know Black Bolt can hold his own physically with Superman for a little bit before he gets overwhelmed,but by that point, BB uses his voice, and Supes is done. And Black Bolt is a much smarter fighter than Superman, just for the record.

No, it doesnt. Once again you just prove how idiotic you are. Think about it, if you're holding back in a fight, and because of that, you're losing, then you're going to stop holding back. So when Thor was getting his ass kicked all those times, you think he was still holding back letting himself get pummeled? No way. And WWH is MUCH stronger than any Hulk Thor has faced in the past.

So, wait let's see, having trouble moving the moon is a better feat than onepunching an asteroid 2x the size of Earth. And if Superman was moving the moon so slow on purpose, then why did he need Wonder Woman's help? I'll tell you why. Because he couldnt move it on his own, and because even with Wonder Woman's help, the best they could do it move it slow. Oh, and btw, Jupiter's diameter is only 11 times the size of Earth. And i just looked it up, and 3/4 of Jupiter's moons are less than 10 kilometers in diameter, and it's largest moon is roughly 5,200 kilometers. The Earth's radius alone is over 1,000 kilometers bigger than that, and i believe the Earth altogether has something like a 13,000 kilometer diameter. And the asteroid Hulk punched was 2x the size of Earth. So yea...

Oh, and please show me Wonder Woman lifting 60 million tons, or Wonder Girl or even Wonder Woman (or even Superman) one punching something twice the size of Earth. Please, go ahead.

I dont have the exact issue number, but im sure someone around here has it. Someone help me out with a scan or issue number? Superman's also been KOed from a gas station exploding.

I didn't realise New Earth Superman was on the same level as byrne superman. It's not like all Supermans adventures with the pre crisis legion of superheroes are canon again, oh wait....

Or that Busiek has mentioned on the Dc message board that if it ever came up superman could move the Earth.

If the whole Skrull thing is true, then that BB was a skrull when he fought Gladiator too. So nice try, but not good enough.

We're assuming Black bolt has always been a skrull then? We're not sure how long he's been a skrull but if Gladiator got took down by Skrull bolt that speaks very badly of his durability.

Yea, and that's why Superman always does that. He always goes right for your head with a massive dose of heat vision....riiiiiight. Superman would lose to Black Bolt the same way Gladiator did, and Superman is weaker than Gladiator so we know Black Bolt can hold his own physically with Superman for a little bit before he gets overwhelmed,but by that point, BB uses his voice, and Supes is done. And Black Bolt is a much smarter fighter than Superman, just for the record.

We're on KMC where very character fights at their best. The other systems of arguing are flawed. If we went with how it would go in a comic there would be no argument. Superman always wins in comics. Yet here we get to argue outside of what makes a story entertaining.

You think Superman could one-shot the Thing? No he cant. You think Superman could bend back Colossus' arms with ease like that, breaking them? Hell no. And you're right, Hulk did BFR Juggernaut, but before that, he had slowed Juggernaut to snail's pace, letting his body build up momentum, and then when he sidestepped Juggy, Juggy couldnt stop. That's why.

Is Thing more durable than an Imperiex probe or is Colossus harder to break than a green lantern construct? If you think Superman can't one shot any mid tier you're out of your mind.

Yea, and we all know how Superman tries to speedblitz people in every single fight he's in. Like that's all he does. Dont act like he uses his speed and everything better than Gladiator. Gladiator is not only stronger than Superman, but also faster, so that doesnt work. When Superman stands on the surface of a planet, and punches the ground a small handful of times, reducing the entire planet to pieces, gimme a call. Gladiator > Superman. And more importantly, WWH > Superman.

Considering he's used super speed in about 60% of his appearances since infinite crisis I'd say yes Superman does use his speed. When Gladiator stops loosing to every flavour of the month that comes his way let me know.

How the hell is Gladiator faster than Superman? New Earth Superman is a casual faster than light flier. He's crossed Galaxies before in the space of a few pages.

Sentry

Wonderwoman gives in to Fabio.

Originally posted by Photon009
Yea, and that's why Superman always does that. He always goes right for your head with a massive dose of heat vision....riiiiiight. Superman would lose to Black Bolt the same way Gladiator did, and Superman is weaker than Gladiator so we know Black Bolt can hold his own physically with Superman for a little bit before he gets overwhelmed,but by that point, BB uses his voice, and Supes is done. And Black Bolt is a much smarter fighter than Superman, just for the record.

No, it doesnt. Once again you just prove how idiotic you are. Think about it, if you're holding back in a fight, and because of that, you're losing, then you're going to stop holding back. So when Thor was getting his ass kicked all those times, you think he was still holding back letting himself get pummeled? No way. And WWH is MUCH stronger than any Hulk Thor has faced in the past.

So, wait let's see, having trouble moving the moon is a better feat than onepunching an asteroid 2x the size of Earth. And if Superman was moving the moon so slow on purpose, then why did he need Wonder Woman's help? I'll tell you why. Because he couldnt move it on his own, and because even with Wonder Woman's help, the best they could do it move it slow. Oh, and btw, Jupiter's diameter is only 11 times the size of Earth. And i just looked it up, and 3/4 of Jupiter's moons are less than 10 kilometers in diameter, and it's largest moon is roughly 5,200 kilometers. The Earth's radius alone is over 1,000 kilometers bigger than that, and i believe the Earth altogether has something like a 13,000 kilometer diameter. And the asteroid Hulk punched was 2x the size of Earth. So yea...

Oh, and please show me Wonder Woman lifting 60 million tons, or Wonder Girl or even Wonder Woman (or even Superman) one punching something twice the size of Earth. Please, go ahead.

Sentry tosses her in the sun, lol jk itll be a tough fight but Sentry will win

This ios the wonderwoman that stood up to a heat vision blast to the face from a pissed superman.... and the same sentry that released his full power and didn't even destroy a city...

It's a close fight, but if wonderwoman can use the gw, and her tiara effectively, then I see no reason why she can't win this.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
She only used them to distract superman.

Damn. SM got distracted by Birds?

Animal Man is DC number one.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'd rather her use her insane self regenerating powers

That in your mind are bigger than Hulk`s or Wolverine`s.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
and just pummel him, or just take sentry's head off with her tiara. Since she won't be trying to save him.

Ah she was trying to save him while going with the cutting the troath tactics?

Your version of WW rocks my socks. I dont care what Rucka wrote, your just rocks my socks 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
When Hulk can turn solar system sized wheels let me know..

Thats what a wuss would need to do. Hulk just claps them 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No one in marvel is superman lvl in strength and speed...

They just hold back more in order to not make him feel bad 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
beats the shit out of Wonder Man and Herc with them before they blink....

He would be scared just to look at them and remembering the beating he took 🙂

You're a joke right now, olympian.

Sorry Bastard, no compliments here. I already have one biatch on these parts and it isent you 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So now you think WWH is stronger than Superman. Your entire post fails on this one sentence. No need in addressing anything further. And Sentry destroyed all those planets but failed to wreck more than a few blocks with the hulk? 😕

Originally posted by Sirius77
This ios the wonderwoman that stood up to a heat vision blast to the face from a pissed superman.... and the same sentry that released his full power and didn't even destroy a city...

It's a close fight, but if wonderwoman can use the gw, and her tiara effectively, then I see no reason why she can't win this.

Look at the fight between the spectre and captain marvel. No city was destroyed.

😄

Pay no attention to it Quanchi, it must be because they werent strong enough *shrugs*

Originally posted by olympian
Sorry Bastard, no compliments here. I already have one biatch on these parts and it isent you 🙂

Like I said... a joke.