Originally posted by kamhal
Kidding? I saw windu destroying hundreds of super battle droids with his force powers alone. Tell me when vader did something close to it... I even remember vader having problems with less then a dozen wild beats...
Right. So, I guess, Vader's secret apprentice must shit on Mace since he yanked a ****ing Star Destroyer out of orbit.
Originally posted by kamhalLast i recall he had no problems with a dozen wild beasts when he instantly killed them with force crush after suspending them in the air.
Kidding? I saw windu destroying hundreds of super battle droids with his force powers alone. Tell me when vader did something close to it... I even remember vader having problems with less then a dozen wild beats...
By the way he chose to fight them with his lightsaber. From what i have seen when sith lords kill their victims or opponents with their lightsabers, it boosts their ego, so the matter of fact that he used his lightsaber rather than the force was his personal preference.
Oh and i remember mace punching droids, not "force powers alone". While windu barely squeezed the shit out of grievous, vader has been shown to destroy an entire medical facility by merely getting unhappy and despitethe fact not having any training from sidious yet.
What happened after he gets trained by the most powerful sith lord in history? He gets even stronger
he instantly killed them
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Oh and i remember mace punching droids, not "force powers alone".
Right, so you are basicly saying that he could destroy steel with flesh without his force powers...
While windu barely squeezed the shit out of grievous, vader has been shown to destroy an entire medical facility by merely getting unhappy and despitethe fact not having any training from sidious yet.
1) Prove me that all the droids in that medical room were made of duranium
2) Vader made a very long force scream. His force scream took as much as 25 seconds attacking all the medical droids aroun, and even then i don't recall them to be completly wipe out, i remember them to suffer the same kind of damage that grievous suffured.
3) This same cyobrg vader is basicly ROTS Anakin Skywalker after having his limbs cut and his body burned by lava, so basicly this vader=<anakin skywalker (ROTS), which let me recall you, is as strong as obi-wan in the force. And obi-wan is not stronger then windu in the force.
So your point is?
Originally posted by kamhalDid i say that? Idiot
🤨Right, so you are basicly saying that he could destroy steel with flesh without his force powers...
Originally posted by kamhal
1) Prove me that all the droids in that medical room were made of duranium
Duralium was a metallic substance used in shielding. It could be coupled with lanthanide to make a strong alloy in armor plating. The Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center used this alloy.
source: Star Wars: Complete Locations
Originally posted by kamhal
2) Vader made a very long force scream. His force scream took as much as 25 seconds attacking all the medical droids aroun, and even then i don't recall them to be completly wipe out, i remember them to suffer the same kind of damage that grievous suffured.
Originally posted by kamhalUh wtf? ROTS anakin as strong as obi wan in the force? You got to be kidding my friend, wheres the proof? Anakin in the ROTS game cut scene was able to send a huge 3 story temple statue flying into the jedi temple breaking open a huge door. And we have the fact that vader choked xizor millions lightyears away via a hologram. Source: the bounty hunter wars
3) This same cyobrg vader is basicly ROTS Anakin Skywalker after having his limbs cut and his body burned by lava, so basicly this vader=<anakin skywalker (ROTS), which let me recall you, is as strong as obi-wan in the force. And obi-wan is not stronger then windu in the force.
Originally posted by kamhalI should ask you the same, seeing im the one backing my sources when you have yet to do yours
So your point is?
Did i say that? Idiot
You said that he didn't use his force powers alone but also his fists. The only possible way this could be a logical sentence would imply fists without force powers. So, yeah, you did suggest that he broke steel with flesh without force powers. Idiot.
Duralium was a metallic substance used in shielding. It could be coupled with lanthanide to make a strong alloy in armor plating. The Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center used this alloy.source: Star Wars: Complete Locations
The Surgical Reconstruction Center is actually the same as the droids working on it?
Prove it was a force scream? Just because wookie says so? Wookie is fallible my friend, seeing that we don't know the effects of force scream and vader merely crushed the entire room by getting angry and not fully utalising the force crush technique.
I don't need to prove you that it was or not a force scream because it's irrelevant for the question, the important here is, vader released his rage in a destructive wave, and the true is that the droids and the room himself were target by vader's powers for half a minute, and even then you see the droids getting the same damage that grievous took from an instant force crush from windu. So, your point that vader's rage unleash>mace's force crush is useless.
Ah, and you are not even close to be my friend.
Uh wtf? ROTS anakin as strong as obi wan in the force? You got to be kidding my friend, wheres the proof? Anakin in the ROTS game cut scene was able to send a huge 3 story temple statue flying into the jedi temple breaking open a huge door. And we have the fact that vader choked xizor millions lightyears away via a hologram. Source: the bounty hunter wars
My prove is the highly canon ROTS movie, where we see that obi-wan's force push was as powerful as anakin's force push.
And once again, I am not your friend.
I should ask you the same, seeing im the one backing my sources when you have yet to do yours
Talks the most bias person here towards vader and his favourites characters. It seems that it was me that suggested that sidious lifted the Lusankya...
I just saw this so im going to rip it apart
Originally posted by kamhal
You said that he didn't use his force powers alone but also his fists. The only possible way this could be a logical sentence would imply fists without force powers. So, yeah, you did suggest that he broke steel with flesh without force powers. Idiot.
Just because i said fist, it doesn't mean im unaware of the fact he used the force to boost his strength but that does not mean he used the force alone to kill droids
Originally posted by kamhalHe destroyed the walls too didn't he? Remember the scene palpatine smiling before vader screams "No"? Look in the background and you see a huge metal debris getting crushed instantly which is hung from the wall, there, he destroyed something that was the same material as GG.
The Surgical Reconstruction Center is actually the same as the droids working on it?
Originally posted by kamhalYes you do, because you have never won a debate, nor can you argue at all, you never back up your claims with any sources save for third party info, prove up or shut up
I don't need to prove you that it was or not a force scream because it's irrelevant for the question,
Originally posted by kamhalHe released his rage through his anger, had he used a technique rather than letting out emotions, the damage would be much greater than what he did in the medical room.
the important here is, vader released his rage in a destructive wave, and the true is that the droids and the room himself were target by vader's powers for half a minute, and even then you see the droids getting the same damage that grievous took from an instant force crush from windu. So, your point that vader's rage unleash>mace's force crush is useless.
Again if it was a technique it would be instant too, and do not forget the vader we saw as of ROTS have yet to receive any training from palpatine nor be tutored in the way of the dark side, now somebody like OT vader would cause immense damage seeing he spent 20 years under the most powerful sith lord and 20 years of dark side knowledge also the fact that he is 80% as powerful as sidious.
So why would it be illogical to assume the power he unleashes is equal to 80% of sidious?
Originally posted by kamhalIts called sarcasm and that is a sad attempt at a failed comeback.
Ah, and you are not even close to be my friend.
Originally posted by kamhalProve it, anakin lifted a 3 storey statue with the force and sent it flying into the jedi temples doors. Oh and after mustafar, anakin didn't lose his conenction to the force, nor was his strength effected, it was his potential which received severe damage.
My prove is the highly canon ROTS movie, where we see that obi-wan's force push was as powerful as anakin's force push.
And obi-wans force push as anakin's force push means he is as powerful as obi wan = proof? LOL no wonder your not taken seriously by anybody
I guess obi wans force push is more powerful than yodas because he sent GG flying whereas despite the fact yoda caught sidious off guard, he only managed to push him across a room.
Originally posted by kamhalDo you even have any friends? I highly doubt so
And once again, I am not your friend.
Originally posted by kamhalBias? Where have i been bias? Did i claim mace beats mace easily? Did i claim he can beat NJO luke skywalker? Oh right its coming from kamhal, somebody who has NEVER won an arguement NOR has the capabilities to argue and the fact that you NEVER back your claims with any sources other than PURE speculation and based on what you "think" is the answer.
Talks the most bias person here towards vader and his favourites characters. It seems that it was me that suggested that sidious lifted the Lusankya...
Oh and the idiot still fails to release i conceded the palpatine lifted the lysankya theory, wow you way more of a fu*king idiot.
Hey and i tell you what, when i argue about vader and sidious, i back them up with FACTS, i may have made a few claims but as some people pointed out to me that they are not true, i LISTEN and CONCEDE, such as the lusankya issue and the vader destroying an ARAT. YOU on the other hand constantly try to downplay vader making it look like as if hes a WEAK ass SHITTY sith lord who shouldn't be at palpatines side. Wow did you even read RODV? Or ANY of the empire comics? Do you actually read up on vaders feats?
Such as choking xizor light years away? Oh wait even if it wasn't lightyyears away its still a very long distance, thousands of kilometres.
Re: Vader runs the gauntlet
Originally posted by GahLakTus
5.) General grievious
just becuases he can't sue the force range wise means little. i mean to use a light saber you need to be able to have the force with in you I believe.
Grievous has a heavy restistence to force attacks and besides for maces assault has never really be effect or damage by force attacks.
also he kicked the shit out of four jedi masters as once two of which were council memeber I believe if not mistaken.
Re: Re: Vader runs the gauntlet
Originally posted by BattlehammerBullshit, then i guess the droids vader killed whom were wielding lightsabers having the capability to easily kill jedi padawans and knights means he is a force god.
just becuases he can't sue the force range wise means little. i mean to use a light saber you need to be able to have the force with in you I believe.
Prove GG can use the force
Quit downplaying vader you fu*ker
Originally posted by BattlehammerOh really? was mace fueling his attack with the dark side or anger? Oh right yet we see GG sent flying like a ragdoll when obi wan used a simple force push
Grievous has a heavy restistence to force attacks and besides for maces assault has never really be effect or damage by force attacks.
Originally posted by BattlehammerWho?
also he kicked the shit out of four jedi masters as once two of which were council memeber I believe if not mistaken.