Ganon vs. Sephiroth WITH A TWIST!

Started by Violent2Dope5 pages

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
King Hyrule never speaks nor is he ever seen in Ocarina of Time.

In the final fight of Twilight Princess, wherein Link and Ganondorf swordfight, the name that appears at the bottom of the screen in "Dark Lord - [b]Ganondorf". [/B]

Lol, I meant WW, not OoT.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Lol, I meant WW, not OoT.
Regardless, in general, the name Ganondorf refers to his human form. He may have been referred to as Ganon once or twice, but aside from that, he is known as Ganondorf. His beastial form is always referred to as Ganon.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Regardless, in general, the name Ganondorf refers to his human form. He may have been referred to as Ganon once or twice, but aside from that, he is known as Ganondorf. His beastial form is always referred to as Ganon.
True, but Ganon can apply to both. Also, Ganon is shorter to type. 😄

In LttP they mentioned that Ganon was once a human named Ganondorf so it would seem that Ganon would be referred to his beast form while Ganondorf human form; I guess to avoid confusion at times.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
In LttP they mentioned that Ganon was once a human named Ganondorf so it would seem that Ganon would be referred to his beast form while Ganondorf human form; I guess to avoid confusion at times.
That's been the point I've been trying to get across. Good job.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
That's been the point I've been trying to get across. Good job.

Pwned

do i have to post the kain quote "this thread has outlasted this usefulness, as have you" and say he pwns Ganon and Sephiroth, or shall i spare you

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Pwned
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He is referred to as Ganondorf through the entirety of OoT, until he transforms and the battle title card gives him the name Ganon.

In WW, his humanoid form is once again referred to as Ganondorf throughout the game. (When the King speaks of Ganon, he is talking about the monstrous transformation that clawed its way back into Hyrule, forcing the Goddesses to flood the land.) The same goes for TP, through until he transforms into Ganon as the second stage of the final battle.

As for chronology, OoT has been confirmed as the first story (disregarding The Minish Cap, which does not have Ganon/dorf, or indeed even the entire Triforce), and WW and TP are parallel sequels to OoT. All other games (except MM, which comes chronologically before TP) would seem to follow WW or TP in their respective timelines.

Wrong, in OoT, he is refferred to as Ganon, and is in WW as well, hell, I think he even refferred to HIMSELF as Ganon. Oh, and Four Swords Adventures was confirmed to be the first Zelda, and does have Ganon in it.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Wrong, in OoT, he is refferred to as Ganon, and is in WW as well, hell, I think he even refferred to HIMSELF as Ganon. Oh, and Four Swords Adventures was confirmed to be the first Zelda, and does have Ganon in it.

Four Swords Adventure retold the story in the desert of Ganondorf's transformation into Ganon and is a sequel to Four Swords which is a sequel to Minish Cap so how can it be the first?

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Four Swords Adventure retold the story in the desert of Ganondorf's transformation into Ganon and is a sequel to Four Swords which is a sequel to Minish Cap so how can it be the first?
Ask Miyamoto, cause it makes no sense to me either.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Ask Miyamoto, cause it makes no sense to me either.

Link

Interview with Eiji Aonuma, Miyamoto's top dog, guy that works with him on the story, and is top producer of Zelda series.

BB: That’s something that, you (Bill Trinen – Localization Team) and I have talked about with the release of the Zelda compilation disc, cleaning up some of the spellings like Ganon, and making sure everything is cohesive. Maybe that’s an American thing – us wanting to know how it all works together. I guess that leads me to my next questions. How do the Links in The Four Swords Adventure relate to the overall story line? Or is it just a subchapter or something like that?

EA: The GBA Four Swords Zelda is what we’re thinking as the oldest tale in the Zelda timeline. With this one on the GameCube being a sequel to that, and taking place sometime after that.

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200405/N04.0517.1915.59084.htm

Note that that interview is now three years old. It has since been retconned by Miyamoto to taking place much later, with Minish Cap taking the title of chronologically first.

Really, the creators themselves don't seem entirely clear on their own (theoretical) timeline, but it is generally accepted that Miyamoto confirmed OoT as the first chronological appearance of Ganon/dorf.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Note that that interview is now three years old. It has since been retconned by Miyamoto to taking place much later, with Minish Cap taking the title of chronologically first.

Really, the creators themselves don't seem entirely clear on their own (theoretical) timeline, but it is generally accepted that Miyamoto confirmed OoT as the first chronological appearance of Ganon/dorf.

And then decided it should be FSA, then MC. We will never know 'til the series ends.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
And then decided it should be FSA, then MC. We will never know 'til the series ends.
It won't.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
It won't.
Right, becaue Miyamoto will live forever.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Right, becaue Miyamoto will live forever.
No, but the Legend of Zelda will. So will Super Mario.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
No, but the Legend of Zelda will. So will Super Mario.
He has even said that he will reveal the timeline when the series ends.