its obvious that confirmed omegas and those who are obviously omegas but not "officially" confirmed on panel should be excluded. thats just me but my person of choice is cyclops. why? becuz he's one of those weak willed f ****ers who is afraid of his own powers. i want to see him pull a joseph and let loose. cuz for years we've been hearing how much power he has stored up in him, and how he only uses a mere fraction of his powers but we havent seen what he can truly do
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
MrImmortal. In the end he'll have tech from trillions of years in the future and equivalent experience.
Mr. Immortals not Homo superior 😛
Originally posted by Ultra Omega
[B]Well, you have Jean Grey, who was essentially The Phoenix Force Reborn into Human Form, as the "Ultimate Mutation."
I don't understand how people have come to that conclusion by reading Morrisons run. In the re-cap pages of Morrisons run we have the PF being refered to as a separate cosmic entity and Jean its host.
Then we have one off hand comment by Beast in the Here Comes Tommorrow Arc where he calls the PF the Ultimate Mutation which could mean the same thing that X-Men Forever was talking about eg Human Kind having the potential to ascend and become abtracts. Then we have Phoenix Endsong where we have a lot of convolution eg Emma tells the Force that it's not Jean its confused becomes it assimilated her memories...then at the end of the mini-series we have Jean say to the force that you and I are one. Then to take it even further in Warsong we have even more convolution over the same topic.
In Classic X-Men #7 the Force was refered to as a separate entity. Gah...so confusing...
Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
Anyways, you can't be > Unlimited potential, so, as was stated, any Omega mutant.Or, more correctly, Squirrel Girl.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Mangeto. Pro X said that potentially Magneto > the Phoenix Force.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakIt seems that the force and its hosts are actually seperate and that the whole being one is either hyperbole or metaphorical.
Mr. Immortals not Homo superior 😛I don't understand how people have come to that conclusion by reading Morrisons run. In the re-cap pages of Morrisons run we have the PF being refered to as a separate cosmic entity and Jean its host.
Then we have one off hand comment by Beast in the Here Comes Tommorrow Arc where he calls the PF the Ultimate Mutation which could mean the same thing that X-Men Forever was talking about eg Human Kind having the potential to ascend and become abtracts. Then we have Phoenix Endsong where we have a lot of convolution eg Emma tells the Force that it's not Jean its confused becomes it assimilated her memories...then at the end of the mini-series we have Jean say to the force that you and I are one. Then to take it even further in Warsong we have even more convolution over the same topic.
In Classic X-Men #7 the Force was refered to as a separate entity. Gah...so confusing...
The force seems really ignorant, or it doesn't impart any of its knowledge on its host... or potentially both.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakIT's one of the things that seperated me from GS.. but because I made alot of the same arguments GS did I was veiwed as GS lite.
True and I like you explanation 😛
In otherwords, people ;like to associate things by comparing them to other things. Its the way the human mind works. We can only precieve ourselves as individuals when we have a society to be invidudualized from. "Me" compared to them. And how we even manuver, "My location compared to the environment around me." Thusly they like to take the "we are one" speech literally. when it never really held any consistency to them being one and always seemed that they were not.
So what do we have stating that they are one? Pretty speech. What do we have that they're seperate? ignorance on the part of the host(or possibly the force), not knowing its own nature when Rachel faced galactus. Jean having to be told things by other hosts in the White Hot Room. and ignorance on the part of the host: Not recognizing Jean.
Certainly if the hosts were one with the force the information once collected by one hot would instantly be imparted on the other hosts.