Albert Wesker vs. Johnny Cage

Started by Ridley_Prime6 pages

Originally posted by batdude123
Indeed. That seems to be what everyone here is doing.

I'd take Johnny in this fight.

Wesker was extremely fast, strong, and agile. There's no denying that. He was toying with Chris and Claire like they were nothing. However, Johnny regularly fights gods and beings with mystical powers. Plus, he has the shadow kick and his plasma balls.


Agreed.

Quoted for freakin' truth (notice Blax that I'm actually quoting the user I say that to 😛).

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Nope. Too slow.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=470059&pagenumber=3

😘

MK characters may punch or kick slower in cut-scenes (most likely done by Midway for cinematic appeal), but they're not in any way, 'slow' during the gameplay, and that's what matters most, not the cut-scenes which are only a very small part of the games.

So saying "too slow" in like every VS thread involving an MK character is just retarded.

Originally posted by batdude123
Is this true?

Yes, because he said it himself.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
Yes, because he said it himself.

What a choch.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=470059&pagenumber=3

😘

MK characters may punch or kick slower in cut-scenes (most likely done by Midway for cinematic appeal), but they're not in any way, 'slow' during the gameplay, and that's what matters most, not the cut-scenes which are only a very small part of the games.

So saying "too slow" in like every VS thread involving an MK character is just retarded.

Lol, cutscenes>>>>>>>>>>gameplay for canon information. Watch the Armageddon intro...is any part of what the characters are doing that fast? Wesker is MUCH faster.

Originally posted by batdude123
What a choch.

In fact, he said it in almost every vs thread that involved a character from the Mortal Kombat franchise.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
In fact, he said it in almost every vs thread that involved a character from the Mortal Kombat franchise.
That's because they are slow.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
That's because they are slow.

You're a choch.

Originally posted by batdude123
You're a choch.
They ARE slow.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
Yet, you didn't quote her.

That was the point, people 😬

And Johnny Cage doesn't have any exceptional feats. He's low tier in the Mortal Kombat world, with or without my personal bas toward the man. And Rideply Prime I don't know what the fvck your smoking, but cutscenes ALWAYS > Gameplay, in EVERY cirumstance.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
That was the point, people 😬

So, you're saying that she's lying?

No. I was going to ad dinto my signature "Blaxican is so cool that he can quote for truth without actually quoting", but if I do it now people will say I only put it in there to make it look like I made the mistake on purpose.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
No. I was going to ad dinto my signature "Blaxican is so cool that he can quote for truth without actually quoting", but if I do it now people will say I only put it in there to make it look like I made the mistake on purpose.

Why didn't you just quote her in the first place?

So I can put that in my signature in the first place. Confusing and childish, I know.

What...the...f*ck?

I didn't know this kind of thread would attract so many people. 😬

Dang this feels a little like MC vs Samus.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Confusing and childish, I know.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
So I can put that in my signature in the first place. Confusing and childish, I know.
Gimme some soul food nyuuka!

Originally posted by Sado-sama
What...the...f*ck?

I didn't know this kind of thread would attract so many people. 😬

Dang this feels a little like MC vs Samus.

It's only the second page ermm

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
They ARE slow.

Let's compare these two:

When Wesker tried to fight Alexia, he was barely able to dodge the blood flung in his direction. Granted, it was slightly impressive when he started the scale the walls, but he still had trouble dodging the blood. Hell, now that I recall, she did actually hit him with some of her blood. And he seemed to be hurt by the fire emanating from her body. Afterward, he fled so that Chris could fight her. This tells me two things:

1) Johnny Cage is fast enough to hit him with a well placed shadow kick. It's not like Wesker was dodging bullets or any crazy shit like that. And the shadow kick creates the same after effects as Wesker's running. It even says in Cage's bio that he has enhanced reflexes. And why not? The guy rumbles with gods and sorcerers on a normal basis. He has to have some reason as to why he's still alive. Johnny also demonstrates a higher level of fighting skills as well.

2) Cage's plasma balls would play a huge role in this fight. If fire can give Wesker fits, imagine what plasma would be like to him?

The only time AW looked truly impressive to me was when he was fighting Claire and Chris. But the fact of the matter is that Claire and Chris are lame comparisons to Johnny. However, let's recap what happened during Chris and Wesker's last battle of the game:

Al was beating on Redfield for the duration of the fight. Not gonna lie about that one. But, the fight was basically over when Chris pulled the lever that dumped all of the steel girders on top of him (and Wesker had time to get out of the way, but he didn't). It didn't knock him out, but it definitely staggered him. Wesker is fast, sure. But fast enough to the point where Johnny wouldn't be able to land hits? Absolutely not.

Oh, and the fire from the self destruction of the Antarctic facility severely scorched his face. Another red flag in the plasma balls' favor. 🙂

Wesker is no doubt cool. I'm not denying that. But you need to put personal bias about MK characters aside. Bottom line: I'm not buying your "too slow" argument as a logical reason for why Wesker would defeat Johnny. If anything, Cage has been much more impressive throughout his history. The only thing I'm hearing here in Wesker's defense is that Johnny is an "ass clown."

Certainly Yoshi, myself, and Ridley aren't the only logical ones here (I hope).

I love MK fyi, they are slow compared to the rest in their genre. I think Wesker wins 1. He is a bit faster. 2. He is strong enough to fight Cage. 3. He does have some fighting skill. I think he wins, not by much tho.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I love MK fyi, they are slow compared to the rest in their genre. I think Wesker wins 1. He is a bit faster. 2. He is strong enough to fight Cage. 3. He does have some fighting skill. I think he wins, not by much tho.

Fair enough. At least you gave me some reasons.

Still wrong though. 😛