Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Kyle created a permanant rose for donna, and permanant legs for this guy who didn't have any. Surfer and Thor also don't have infinite power. Now show thor or surfer holding a big Bang.
I never said that he couldnt hold a big bang, he might had to create a forcefield (not around himself, even though I know your referring to imperex, but around the blast) around the blast. I told you that he only has the power to create objects. Thor and surfer has so much more. We named you powers that they have and what they can do, you tell us about him creating a forcefield around a blast. Tell me if you see the difference, thor can take your soul, gl can create a force field, thor can bring up a tornadoe, gl can create a big hammer. Do you see the difference.
Originally posted by carver9
I never said that he couldnt hold a big bang, he might had to create a forcefield (not around himself, even though I know your referring to imperex, but around the blast) around the blast. I told you that he only has the power to create objects. Thor and surfer has so much more. We named you powers that they have and what they can do, you tell us about him creating a forcefield around a blast. Tell me if you see the difference, thor can take your sould, gl can create a force field, thor can bring up a tornadoe, gl can create a big hammer. Do you see the difference.
A GL can change thier DNA and give themselves power. A GL created the justice who all had thier powers. This would include making a being like the red tornado who does create tornado. You get it now? There isn't anything that Thor or Surfer can do that a GL can't replicate in some way form or fashion. As for absorbing souls, kilowog did one better and absorbed his entire planets souls. Next.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlPost them. You have the burden of proof on you. You claim all these things while just the other night I shut you down on your hilarious Darkseid and his durability could only store the omega powers. Prove something as I Did just last night. I didnt direct you to the comic I showed you. 🙂
Get off your lazy ass and go to the GL respect threads. That is where i"m getting alot of my info.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Post them. You have the burden of proof on you. You claim all these things while just the other night I shut you down on your hilarious Darkseid and his durability could only store the omega powers. Prove something as I Did just last night. I didnt direct you to the comic I showed you. 🙂
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlIm not searching the entire respect thread for you. Anyways the green lantern rings need to charge thus making them inferior to the mjolnir.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t366379.html
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
A GL can change thier DNA and give themselves power. A GL created the justice who all had thier powers. This would include making a being like the red tornado who does create tornado. You get it now? There isn't anything that Thor or Surfer can do that a GL can't replicate in some way form or fashion. As for absorbing souls, kilowog did one better and absorbed his entire planets souls. Next.
You do know who kilowog is, dont you. To my knowledge when he pulled that feat, he had more then one ring and you keep bringing up create, Im asking you what he can do himself instead of him creating anything. Silver surfer and thor are a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle more vesatile then gl but gl is just as powerful. And to have superman on your list, you might as well have gladiator, hyperion, da**, I can even go as far as wonderman. Superman has nice powers but he aint even close to having the power of a gl or surfer or thor but hes still bad as hell.
Originally posted by carver9
You do know who kilowog is, dont you. To my knowledge when he pulled that feat, he had more then one ring and you keep bringing up create, Im asking you what he can do himself instead of him creating anything. Silver surfer and thor are a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle more vesatile then gl but gl is just as powerful. And to have superman on your list, you might as well have gladiator, hyperion, da**, I can even go as far as wonderman. Superman has nice powers but he aint even close to having the power of a gl or surfer or thor but hes still bad as hell.
Superman's power out put is just as great as anyone elses. He can pwn thor or surfer with t-vo quite easily.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Superman's power out put is just as great as anyone elses. He can pwn thor or surfer with t-vo quite easily.
Answer this, when was the last time he used tvo and how many times did he use it his entire career. I didnt say that superman wouldnt give thor or surfer a challenge, I said that he aint as powerful as the two. The only output of power that superman has is heat vision and ice breath, thats it, the rest of his powers are physical combat. Thor and surfer has so much more that its rediculous. Like I said, Superman dont belong on the list unless you add hyperion, gladiator, you can even put wonderman up there because they are superman identicals ( i give superman a nod against wonderman though).
Originally posted by carver9
Answer this, when was the last time he used tvo and how many times did he use it his entire career. I didnt say that superman wouldnt give thor or surfer a challenge, I said that he aint as powerful as the two. The only output of power that superman has is heat vision and ice breath, thats it, the rest of his powers are physical combat. Thor and surfer has so much more that its rediculous. Like I said, Superman dont belong on the list unless you add hyperion, gladiator, you can even put wonderman up there because they are superman identicals ( i give superman a nod against wonderman though).
YOu are trying to use versatility as a gage for power output. Martain Manhunter is more verstatile than thor. Does that mean he can beat thor? Hyperion, Gladiator, nor wonder Woman whistle and crush brains or put people to sleep or hypnotize them. None of them shout and release sonic booms. None of them have saved the omniverse.
Carver i agree with you, but your argument is getting a little lost in the ambiguity between versatility and raw power. The former does not equal the latter. You can have a swiss army knife which is more versailte than my .357, but ill take my chances with the cannon.
However, IMO Surfer is both a little more versatile and powerful than GL. The main reason being his ability to tap into and be amplified by the power cosmic. While GL is limited to the power of the ring, and his will + imagination.
They would probably be 1 and 2 on my list.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
YOu are trying to use versatility as a gage for power output. Martain Manhunter is more verstatile than thor. Does that mean he can beat thor? Hyperion, Gladiator, nor wonder Woman whistle and crush brains or put people to sleep or hypnotize them. None of them shout and release sonic booms. None of them have saved the omniverse.
Never, Like I told you before, I never said that superman wouldnt give anyone on my list a fight, this thread is about who is more power and thor has superman. Im not saying that superman cant beat thor because he could get some wins over thor (even though I give thor the majority) but when it comes to overall power thor has that in spades along with surfer.
You do know that superman is dc's #1 ticket. I dont doubt that theyll have a comic where superman is beating the hell out of spectre, if you look at superman powers, he shouldnt be able to do half the things that he does. example, one shotting despero, a guy that took on the entire jla, jsa, along with some other hero's. Figthing darkseid and withstanding his omega effect, wow, gods tremble at darkseids oe but superman can take it.
Superman isnt all that power to do all the things that he does but he is going to continue to do it because he's superman. By the way, superman didnt save the omniverse under his own power. 1st he gained the power of blue superman again and then when he fought brainiac he had to sundipp for a while and the only thing that he done then was just move a small size planet. Thats a feat that gladiator could have pulled since he is a planet pusher.
Originally posted by nimbus006
Carver i agree with you, but your argument is getting a little lost in the ambiguity between versatility and raw power. The former does not equal the latter. You can have a swiss army knife which is more versailte than my .357, but ill take my chances with the cannon.However, IMO Surfer is both a little more versatile and powerful than GL. The main reason being his ability to tap into and be amplified by the power cosmic. While GL is limited to the power of the ring, and his will + imagination.
They would probably be 1 and 2 on my list.
Youre right, sorry about that, sometimes I dont know how to word things but you said it alot better then I did.
Originally posted by carver9I agree whole heartedly. Superman is dc's number one ticket and they have him doing insane ridiculous feats from time to time. Most agree Superman and his feats sometimes bring down the collective might of dc becuz what they fail to do as a whole he can sometimes just do on his own. It definitely seems that way.
Never, Like I told you before, I never said that superman wouldnt give anyone on my list a fight, this thread is about who is more power and thor has superman. Im not saying that superman cant beat thor because he could get some wins over thor (even though I give thor the majority) but when it comes to overall power thor has that in spades along with surfer.You do know that superman is dc's #1 ticket. I dont doubt that theyll have a comic where superman is beating the hell out of spectre, if you look at superman powers, he shouldnt be able to do half the things that he does. example, one shotting despero, a guy that took on the entire jla, jsa, along with some other hero's. Figthing darkseid and withstanding his omega effect, wow, gods tremble at darkseids oe but superman can take it.
Superman isnt all that power to do all the things that he does but he is going to continue to do it because he's superman. By the way, superman didnt save the omniverse under his own power. 1st he gained the power of blue superman again and then when he fought brainiac he had to sundipp for a while and the only thing that he done then was just move a small size planet. Thats a feat that gladiator could have pulled since he is a planet pusher.
But with regards to Darkseid now he isnt as powerful as people claim he is currently.
nevr, I got a question for you, who do you think can win in a fight, odin or superman?
Got another question for you?
Now when you answer this, I want you to answer it as if its happening in a comic by dc writers, not on the forum.
What if marvels odin came to dc and fought the jla and destroyed all of the members leaving noone but superman standing ready to take odin out and that was the end of that comic, it said to be continue. What would you be expecting to happen in the next comic thats going to come out with superman facing odin.
Give me your answer then I'll tell you why I asked you that.