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Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Not only that, but Jacen suddenly gets these magical powers after declaring himself a dark lord of the sith. That's pretty gay.

Also, how the hell could Jacen superior to, or even on par with Luke? Luke's father was the Chosen One so I could see how he could somehow get his potential, although from a biological standpoint it makes no sense, considering Anakin was born of the force so nobody would have his potential. But Jacen is the son of Leia and more than likely the bloodlines get watered down, especially since she married Han. I hate the fact how Anakin Solo was supposed to be the powerful one, and GL changed that to Jacen because he thought fans might get confused.

Well GL has said so, Luke could reach Anakins potential. Thus midichlorians doesn't follow biology. Say Anakin had 100 units of midichlorians, he forms spawns with a non-force sensitive chick, and his spawn also has 100 units of midichlorians, thus, the spawn spawn should also have 100 units of midichlorians.

Originally posted by Morridini
Well GL has said so, Luke could reach Anakins potential. Thus midichlorians doesn't follow biology. Say Anakin had 100 units of midichlorians, he forms spawns with a non-force sensitive chick, and his spawn also has 100 units of midichlorians, thus, the spawn spawn should also have 100 units of midichlorians.

That's where we should ignore GL, then...."units of midi-chlorians"? WTF....making someone's Force-potential (or whatever) at all determinable scientifically has to be the worst idea ever thrust upon the SW universe....I'm all for leaving it vague.

BTW: Worst Force-power? Yeah, "flow-walking." Reading about it on the web was bad enough; actually reading the book made me want to vomit....

Well we are talking about things that are canon, thus we can't ignore GL.

As for flow-walking, why? Loved it, timetravel is always fascinating.

Originally posted by Morridini
Well we are talking about things that are canon, thus we can't ignore GL.

As for flow-walking, why? Loved it, timetravel is always fascinating.

Unfortunately so. 😛

Uh, because it makes everything in the SW universe invalid. If one could affect the past in such a way, any number of events (etc.) could be altered. I can just see it being used by authors to "retcon" what they don't like about the SW continuity.

Besides, timetravel is just so....plebian. It's far too common in Sci-Fi, and should definitely have been kept out of SW.

BTW: That's just my opinion, so....

Flow-walking has got to the be the worst. I just have never liked Jacen, so it not only makes him the villian, he's the villian who seems so incredibly fragile... I mean, why not 3 masters on the mission to plant the homing beacon on him? Why kyle and 2 knights? it doesn't make any sense. You send Kyp, Corran, and Kyle, and THAT FIGHT ends jacen's life. Why throw away the life of a knight to put a homing beacon on him. wasted mission

Plus, Luke already said he would sacrifice one person to kill Jacen if he could do it again. (instead of leaving for Ben's sake.) Then he is faced with the exact situation in his stealthX, and once again doesn't pull the trigger on Jacen. So why go through his big moral dilemma if he's going to do the exact same thing again?

Originally posted by Atticus
why do you like njo and legacy so much?

...... Jedi samurai??

Originally posted by Melcórë
Unfortunately so. 😛

Uh, because it makes everything in the SW universe invalid. If one could affect the past in such a way, any number of events (etc.) could be altered. I can just see it being used by authors to "retcon" what they don't like about the SW continuity.

Besides, timetravel is just so....plebian. It's far too common in Sci-Fi, and should definitely have been kept out of SW.

BTW: That's just my opinion, so....

Actually, Jacen points out in Inferno that flow-walking cannot affect the present, since the Force would correct any change that the flow-walker made, and the flow would return to normal. Also, since Flow-Walking cannot change the past and simply view it as if one was watching it on a TV screen, it's not really time-traveling, but rather time-viewing. It's kind of like the Star Wars people are watching a recording of the events of the past, but in person.

As for Fury, even as an LOTF fan, I didn't quite understand much of the book. I mean, the kidnapping of Allana, the killing of Alema Rar and the destruction of Centerpoint I understood, but a lot of it was basically talk. Here's a question raised by it: to capture Jacen, who fought Luke quite well (although was in the end beaten), why did they only send Kyle and a few Knights? I mean, send 5 masters! That'll kill him!

One last thing on flow-walking. If you flow-walk to a specific year, you are automatically transported to your exact location in that year. Then how did Jacen and Tahiri flow-walk to the Baanu Rass ? Shouldn't it be destroyed by 40 ABY? Also, a bit of food for thought. If someone flew a ship to where Alderaan's core once rested (after it was destroyed) and flow-walked to before it was destroyed, would they suddenly be trapped within tons of Alderaan magma? And since nothing in the past could damage them, would they die or not?

Actually, Kyle, who was only second to Luke in saber fighting if even that, should have been able to take down Jacen. Sending 5 jedi and having Jacen wtfpwn everybody was absolutely retarded and made no sense.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Actually, Kyle, who was only second to Luke in saber fighting if even that, should have been able to take down Jacen. Sending 5 jedi and having Jacen wtfpwn everybody was absolutely retarded and made no sense.

Exactly! you have the legendary Kyle Katarn, who has defeated almost as many dark Jedi in his time as Luke has, and Jacen beats him in something like 10 seconds? That was stupid, it gives no respect whatsoever for Kyle Katarn. Anybody remember how good this guy was in the Jedi Knight Series?

well he didn't really beat jacen if you read it something came from behind and hit kyle into jacens blade on accident

not on accident, Jacen uses the force to pull the speeder into Kyle, so they give Jacen credit for it.

i know but jacen didn't intend for it to cause him to fall into his blade.

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
i know but jacen didn't intend for it to cause him to fall into his blade.

really? i interpreted that differently i guess.

Originally posted by caedusrulesall
Actually, Jacen points out in Inferno that flow-walking cannot affect the present, since the Force would correct any change that the flow-walker made, and the flow would return to normal. Also, since Flow-Walking cannot change the past and simply view it as if one was watching it on a TV screen, it's not really time-traveling, but rather time-viewing. It's kind of like the Star Wars people are watching a recording of the events of the past, but in person.

In the Dark Nest Trilogy Jacen flow-walked and and his mother saw him in the future. Also he made it very clear in other attempts to remain hidden so as to not affect the timeline. So there is definite contradiction in the series about this force power.

Did Caedus kill Kyle? None of my stores have Star Wars books anymore

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
Did Caedus kill Kyle? None of my stores have Star Wars books anymore

No, he didn't kill Kyle, just badly wounded him. It's like a lot of the stories where someone gets impaled through the stomach with a lightsaber blade. Technically it should kill them, but for some reason they always survive. I don't get it.

it all goes back to force healing trances

Stupidity. How many times did they have to make it seem like alema rar died before she actually did? And the same with Jacen. He's been next to death in almost every book.

Alema died? I've been tired of her since I read the Dark Nest

ya jag fel killed her