Why are some people looking for the visage of a nutcase psycho to be anything than that of a nutcase psycho? Why does today's generation want EVERYONE to look metrosexual..... EVEN deranged madmen? Look, I had my doubts about Ledger as Joker, but from what I've seen AND HEARD(I love the voice and the laugh) he is gonna nail it.
Would everyone prefer Zak Effron as the Joker?
Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Why are some people looking for the visage of a nutcase psycho to be anything than that of a nutcase psycho? Why does today's generation want EVERYONE to look metrosexual..... EVEN deranged madmen? Look, I had my doubts about Ledger as Joker, but from what I've seen AND HEARD(I love the voice and the laugh) he is gonna nail it.Would everyone prefer Zak Effron as the Joker?
He could sing his evil plan monologue to Batman. 😱 😐
People, especially comic people are incredibly anal when it comes to the slightest changes to anything.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
yeah but what about the topic of the thread? how do you like his LOOK?
Like I said, from what i've seen I think Ledger will do a good job. I like the look. I prefer him looking like a crazy vagrant to some slick looking villian. I think his mentality is he has nothing to lose. If he was pretty then that means he cares about his appearance and that would completely ruin the character for me.
I'm kinda liking this now Joker (look) especially after watching the new trailer a couple times.
Having Heath play him helped make me think so also. Know why? Cause I saw something special in Heath playing the Joker while watching the trailer. Nowadays not alot of actors really get into a character as passionately and almost obsessively. With Heath, he seemingly does that and so genuinely well too. It t like he's in the zone playing as the Joker. And that's what gonna make him great as the Joker whom is a highly passionate and extremely emotional villain. And you'd need an actor with real talent to be that way and do it right. And Heath does that. The grungy look makes it all just better cause it adds that real world appeal.
I'm glad Heath was pick. He's a good actor after all He's gonna pull the role perfectly from doing the anit-social like maniacal mannerism associated with the Joker to acting twitchy to the voice to the wit. He just has the of the essence of the Joker down pat to perfection, from what i've seen in the trailer. Like I loved the bazooka shot. Just before pulling the trigger, he seemed upset as if he was trying to aim without looking into the aim, then he looked into the aim with one eye closed with the side of his mouth wide open, then after he shoots he gets startled backs his head away from the weapon with a disgruntled look, with his henchmen behind him. Beautiful and so joker like.
Loved when he was spraying that mach. gun at an approaching Batman/motorcycle while yelling/growling "C'mon Hit Me! That was pure art.
So thumbs up for the look, the actor, and his casting director.
FistOfTheNorth, I couldn't agree with you more. It was those little things in his performance in the trailer that made me like the choice and look for the Joker. The standout for me is the voice and laugh. Remember the teaser trailer where you just hear him say, "I'm a man of my word, ahahahahahahahaha!!!". I loved that!
Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Like I said, from what i've seen I think Ledger will do a good job. I like the look. I prefer him looking like a crazy vagrant to some slick looking villian. I think his mentality is he has nothing to lose. If he was pretty then that means he cares about his appearance and that would completely ruin the character for me.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Because it made Batman look camp. It makes Batman look like an overtly sexual character. Is Batman camp? Is Batman an overtly sexullay character.....no. Is The Joker a pyscho...yes....and his appearance reflects his character. Schumachers portryal did not reflect Batmans characters. Hell it could be argued that Burtons Penguin doesnt reflect Penguins characters because Penguin isnt a psyhco in the comics he is just a selfish business man..
Originally posted by tlbauerle
I'm getting the sense that your sole purpose in life is to ridicule THE DARK KNIGHT and those who like what they see.
Just because it's not "OMG this is the most bad ass Joker ever!!!" I'm ridiculing the Dark Knight and those who like what they see? Wow...I still want to see the Dark Knight I just don't like what I am seeing from it so far.
I mean seriously where was all this peace on earth good will towards liberty taking directors when Tim Burton was getting his ass handed to him in the other threads 😆 😆 😆
This is a discussion board. We're discussing. Not everyone will have the same opinion people need to not take stuff personally or act like it's an attack on the film. I never said the Dark Knight would suck. I said I don't like how the Joker looks...in a thread where I asked how I felt about how the Joker looks. I'm really not seeing what the fuss is.
Originally posted by FistOfThe NorthLoved when he was spraying that mach. gun at an approaching Batman/motorcycle while yelling/growling "C'mon Hit Me! That was pure art.
You noticed as well? 👆
Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
But historically the Joker has been a madman who was meticulous, including in his appearance. He coordinates.
Prove that he is meticulous about his appearance otherwise your opinion is just personal bias with no basis from the comics.
Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
FistOfTheNorth, I couldn't agree with you more. It was those little things in his performance in the trailer that made me like the choice and look for the Joker. The standout for me is the voice and laugh. Remember the teaser trailer where you just hear him say, "I'm a man of my word, ahahahahahahahaha!!!". I loved that!
I'll have to say that his laugh sounds better that Jack Nick's '89 Joker laugh.
Not that Jack's laugh was bad but Heath's version just sounds fully and more Joker like.
It's like gutoral "Wooohohahahahahaa!" Heath just loudly shouts out. Jack just had a human laugh with a hint of Joker.
Originally posted by starlock
I dont like the look of the jokerI dont think it will ruin the movie though!,
i always go in with an open mind, but from all i have seen and heard so far, i dont like anything about this joker
yeah I agree.I'll never like the look of the joker in this film but that wont ruin the film for me as long as the STORY is great.I didnt think i would be able to enjoy batman begins because of the look of the batmobile which I wont ever begin to like,"still prefer the one from the 89 movie,about the only one good thing burton did right in that movie besides casting kim basinger, 😄" but the story and screenplay for batman begins was so awesome that I was able to forget about the look of the batmobile and eventually was able to accept it.I have faith in Nolan.He's the one Batman director that understands what he is doing and I have faith that the story will be so great that eventually just like the look of the batmobile,I'll be able to get past jokers look as well and accept it.the most important thing to a good movie is a good story and Nolan delivered the first time,I cant see him not delivering again.
Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
Um...this is a discussion board I didn't know everyone had to only give nice comments on the Joker in a thread that asked what our opinion was of the character. I'm not ridiculing anyone. I'm stating my opinion just like everyone else.Just because it's not "OMG this is the most bad ass Joker ever!!!" I'm ridiculing the Dark Knight and those who like what they see? Wow...I still want to see the Dark Knight I just don't like what I am seeing from it so far.
I mean seriously where was all this peace on earth good will towards liberty taking directors when Tim Burton was getting his ass handed to him in the other threads 😆 😆 😆
This is a discussion board. We're discussing. Not everyone will have the same opinion people need to not take stuff personally or act like it's an attack on the film. I never said the Dark Knight would suck. I said I don't like how the Joker looks...in a thread where I asked how I felt about how the Joker looks. I'm really not seeing what the fuss is.
And you say it over and over and over again.