Conspiracy theory belief - a crutch for the weak?

Originally posted by Katsu

About your firewall plan, impossible! How can you firewall every pc in the world? You can access the internet anytime you want using internet cafe's, libraries, friends, your work, aunties, girlfriends or neighbours etc.

the so called "great firewall of china" is actually a reality (officially known as the Golden shield project)...which is quite scary in itself

not to mention that there are whole countries who have banned specific websites...the old ogrish.com (now liveleak) has been banned in (if memory serves me correctly) spain and south korea because of uncencored footage is showed of beheadings in fallujah and the madrid train bombings

so the technology is there to censor whatever the controllers of servers see fit...and while there is a varying number of ISP's throughout the world...in each country...the hardware it is run through is usually commanded by one of 2 companies

Originally posted by jaden101
the so called "great firewall of china" is actually a reality (officially known as the Golden shield project)...which is quite scary in itself

not to mention that there are whole countries who have banned specific websites...the old ogrish.com (now liveleak) has been banned in (if memory serves me correctly) spain and south korea because of uncencored footage is showed of beheadings in fallujah and the madrid train bombings

so the technology is there to censor whatever the controllers of servers see fit...and while there is a varying number of ISP's throughout the world...in each country...the hardware it is run through is usually commanded by one of 2 companies

My entire post was about how The Elite could never stop the people communicating about them.

You cant censor the internet without pulling the plug. You are gullible and ignorant.

Originally posted by Katsu
My entire post was about how The Elite could never stop the people communicating about them.

You cant censor the internet without pulling the plug. You are gullible and ignorant.

yes...except for the fact that everything i posted was actual facts and everything you just said was total jibberish nonsense...kind of a recurring theme in our little exchanges

but anyway...i'll indulge you

there have actually been cases where rulers of countries have stopped information from reaching their citizens...usually to do with offensive content or in the case of some governments...information about human rights abuses perpetrated by themselves

so surely if the elite run the world...they could censor whatever they like by merely putting global bans on certain IP addresses and webistes

i'm sure...given your theories of their massive resources..that they could easily put the manpower in place to do it

Originally posted by Deano
they cant shut it down. because that wud be fascism. and they dont want us thinking they are fascists do they? they have to make us think we are free, and that the freedoms taken away are for our own good. u see?

Originally posted by Katsu
Hahahha not true. The knowledge is attained from more sources than internet, we have books, meetings and word to mouth. The internet is just one of many ways to communicate with people you know?

About your firewall plan, impossible! How can you firewall every pc in the world? You can access the internet anytime you want using internet cafe's, libraries, friends, your work, aunties, girlfriends or neighbours etc.

So AGAIN, only by pulling the plug out of the internet could you stop it. And we all know that is never going to happen.

Originally posted by jaden101
there have actually been cases where rulers of countries have stopped information from reaching their citizens...usually to do with offensive content or in the case of some governments...information about human rights abuses perpetrated by themselves

so surely if the elite run the world...they could censor whatever they like by merely putting global bans on certain IP addresses and webistes

i'm sure...given your theories of their massive resources..that they could easily put the manpower in place to do it

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
This logical inference of course will be ignored, because it makes one feel special to be privy to secret 'leaked' information via the last vestige of information freedom 'teh internetz' that managed to bypass the big bad Illuminati Elite's control for no apparent reason.

sometimes i think that you serve no purpose in these threads. find a new hobby

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Are purveyors of child pornography given free reign on the internet?

Because Child Pornography is illegal, are Conspiracy Theory's illegal?

Originally posted by jaden101

so surely if the elite run the world...they could censor whatever they like by merely putting global bans on certain IP addresses and webistes

i'm sure...given your theories of their massive resources..that they could easily put the manpower in place to do it

But, why would they do something like that now? The alternative media is pulling a hefty sum of money right now and it's not like the elite have a real political mindset like the countries with heavy online regulation. Rather they are business men and that's the business model is what in my opinion seems to be beneficial for them. Something like heavy internet trafficing is too longterm and Overt for the elite in my opinion. At least for current Western nations, it's simply too early.

It's better to spread disinfo and promote an alternative media that tells half-truths while making their sphere of influence even bigger.
I'm sure their is some type of trafficing, but nothing heavy.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Because Child Pornography is illegal, are Conspiracy Theory's illegal?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes. That was the purpose of the example. [/sarcasm]

Never said it was the purpose, but your analogy was poor. Especially coming from someone as intelligent as yourself.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Strawman

Never said it was the purpose, but your analogy was poor. Especially coming from someone as intelligent as yourself.

There are mechanisms to censor the internet.
The Illuminati apparently are apparently so pervasive that they are capable of censoring all facets of print and television media.
The Illuminati apparently are yet somehow incapable of censoring the internet, despite that it can be censored by less pervasive bodies.

Logical inconsistency.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The Illuminati apparently are apparently so pervasive that they are capable of censoring all facets of print and television media.

Hahaha, where did it say that they are capable of censoring all facets of print and television media? Quote please! Stop making up things!

They control MOST of the media. Not ALL. MOST is enough to control the general public.

Do you realize that when you want to control people you only need to control the ones that matter, you can never control everything and everyone. What a stupid way of thinking!

Example: you dont need to control every journalist, just the editor of the newspaper they are working for, this method applies to all sorts of industry.

That is how you control people.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If you understood the purpose of the example - to illustrate that the internet can and is censored - then the example works fine.

There are mechanisms to censor the internet.
The Illuminati apparently are apparently so pervasive that they are capable of censoring all facets of print and television media.
The Illuminati apparently are yet somehow incapable of censoring the internet, despite that it can be censored by less pervasive bodies.

Logical inconsistency.

Well, I agree of course they can censor anything. But, read my poionts.

I mean't almost anything.

Originally posted by Katsu
Hahaha, where did it say that they are capable of censoring all facets of print and television media? Quote please! Stop making up things!

They control MOST of the media. Not ALL. MOST is enough to control the general public.

Do you realize that when you want to control people you only need to control the ones that matter, you can never control everything and everyone. What a stupid way of thinking!

Example: you dont need to control every journalist, just the editor of the newspaper they are working for, this method applies to all sorts of industry.

That is how you control people.

people cant seem to grasp this. no matter how many times u tell them

Originally posted by Katsu
Example: you dont need to control every journalist, just the editor of the newspaper they are working for, this method applies to all sorts of industry.

Jinkies.

Whoever thinks that the Illuminati control all journalist is a moron.

dont be too harsh on xmarks. he is just pretty clueless on how its easy to control the majority of information

Or perhaps I feel no need to fear an organization so inept as to be unable to censor the internet - the locale where you derive the majority of your "leaked" information privy only to those who aren't among the "flock"? hmm Probably makes one feel privileged. Maybe even special. Does it make you feel special, Deano? 🙂

Also, it's harder to get outlets on Broadcast TV versus the internet. The only way the average Joe can even make broadcast is buying air time from public TV and said programs air at certain times in certain zones. The internet has no such hindrances, anyone can start up a web page or a forum. And, it will accessible to anyone at any given time with less cost.

So, is it a surprise that one is harder to censor than the other.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Or perhaps I feel no need to fear an organization so inept as to be unable to censor the internet - the locale where you derive the majority of your "leaked" information privy only to those who aren't among the "flock"? hmm Probably makes one feel privileged. Maybe even special. Does it make you feel special, Deano?

How would they maintain heavy trafficking of the internet in a way that no one can object?

hmm