More problems with Fury

Started by Darth Sexy2 pages

I wonder if that's Jaina finding Jacen or one of the new sith, cause I don't recall Jacen having long blonde hair. Anyways, it should be Luke that kills Jacen, not Jaina, although this whole sword of the jedi thing makes me think that they're going to kill off the old characters and pave the way for these new ones. But yea, bullshit is right.. Jacen shouldn't be able to contend with the likes of Katarn or Kyp. A 5 year sabbatical isn't supposed to turn you into a force god.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Excuse me, but I believe the empowerment of Luke was necessary in order to reflect Anakin Skywalker's power at his full potential, so it's actually more realistic than Jacen, who's bloodline is watered down, to be even close to Luke. I hope someone takes care of this problem.

I have no problem with Luke becoming more powerful, but his power up was done very carelessly. From DE (which I found poor) to his Vong saga feats, a lot of plot devices that were thrown around carelessly and turned the once mystical and subtle Force, into a Power Cosmic/Odinforce clone.

His power level was done without perpective, there's a reason why GL's Sith/Jedi don't create force storm vortex or move balck holes.

The only reason Jacen is being powered up beyond the expected levels is so that he can contend with Luke. If Luke's power was handled more intelligently, the LOTF story - as it is - wouldn't have this issue.

You know allankles, caedus being uber for no apparant reason is one thing, but its likely due to the fact he learnt from so many people, vegere,luke,lumiya.

But jaina being as powerful jacen? Despite the fact that she has less knowledge of the force than jacen and all of a sudden she can contend with caedus?

That is a truck load of shit. Hell as Sexy even said, they (The idiot authors) didn't even realise it was obi wan who killed maul and to make things worse they didn't even admit they are wrong unlike drew who admitted he wrote vaapad in POD by mistake.

they've completely ran out of villians that can have any shred of realism. How many weapons can the galaxy have? the galaxy is going to have to have some kind of peace soon so some new weapons can be built. Its been almost 40 years of all-out war hasn't it? with each conflict be painted to bigger and more tumultous than any before it.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
You know allankles, caedus being uber for no apparant reason is one thing, but its likely due to the fact he learnt from so many people, vegere,luke,lumiya.

But jaina being as powerful jacen? Despite the fact that she has less knowledge of the force than jacen and all of a sudden she can contend with caedus?

That is a truck load of shit. Hell as Sexy even said, they (The idiot authors) didn't even realise it was obi wan who killed maul and to make things worse they didn't even admit they are wrong unlike drew who admitted he wrote vaapad in POD by mistake.

I agree with Saxy, I was just pointing out the origin of all this power level mess. If Luke's powers were handled with a repsect to GL's vision in the movies and with a consideration of the nature of the force, we wouldn't be having this mess.

Besides the whole Vong force immunity thing, the way the latter parts of post ROTJ EU has been handled is dreadful.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
You know allankles, caedus being uber for no apparant reason is one thing, but its likely due to the fact he learnt from so many people, vegere,luke,lumiya.

But jaina being as powerful jacen? Despite the fact that she has less knowledge of the force than jacen and all of a sudden she can contend with caedus?

That is a truck load of shit. Hell as Sexy even said, they (The idiot authors) didn't even realise it was obi wan who killed maul and to make things worse they didn't even admit they are wrong unlike drew who admitted he wrote vaapad in POD by mistake.

Note: Fury spoiler

It's possible that Jaina got more powerful during her time training with Boba Fett, so she now has both Mandalorian and Jeedai training. However, NOWHERE has it EVER been said that Jaina becomes as powerful as Jacen. The cover is now out, and it features Jaina (a hot-looking Jaina, I might add. And if you say she's not because her face, in the words of Revan, is "scrunched up like a kinrath pup", remind yourself that Jaina at any NJO or post-NJO time is hot) leaping at Caedus, lightsaber drawn. You see the back of Caedus' head and his lightsaber, but that's it. Also, Jaina looks pretty damn mad. Maybe something happened in Revelation that made her angry...but that's just speculation.

Bottom line is that nowhere does it say that Jaina becomes as powerful as Jacen, and I don't even know where that came out of. It just shows her fighting him. If you want to see it, go to Wookieepedia and look in the Invincible article.

Jacen shouldn't be able to be as powerful as Luke either. I bet they make Ben even more powerful than Luke or Jacen to pave the way for the new generation. IF this is the case, then the transition has been utterly ridiculous and illogical, if not piss poor.

as for ben

well look at the legacy comics. It's safe to say that Kol is Bens son due to how far ahead in the future the comics take place.

I don't think ben will be as powerful as luke but i do think that he'll become a great master and be on the council if not be the grand master and lead the jedi order to how it was during the old republic.

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
as for ben

well look at the legacy comics. It's safe to say that Kol is Bens son due to how far ahead in the future the comics take place.

That is another problem I have. Here we have the epic struggle going on and like 80 years later the sith rule the galaxy it just makes all the things Luke and his order going through seem in vein if his order doesn't even last 2 centuries.

i do agree there but i was trying to say that after LOTF there should be peace in the galaxy until the sith-imperial war starts in the legacy comics

They screwed up the LOTF series but I think they completely bombed the Legacy series. Sure, the story is good and the fact that darth Krayt was is Hett was badass, but they should have either done it a few hundred years later at the very least, or not done it at all since it does undermine Lucas' legacy. At the same time, him and his order are called pretenders. I kinda understand that except for the fact that his order is based on the ancient sith so it's weird they would call them pretenders. Anyways, the authors really screwed up the timelines and what Lucas really wanted.

Personally, I feel SW should have ended with the death of Palpatie on Endor, but I do somewhat understand how Lucas wanted to let his greatest hero grow and establish the fact that he represented a full potential Anakin. Other than that, books should be made about the old republic and everything pre OT. They should just have left everything after the OT alone.

well, there won't be peace between the two series, at some point the Jedi order must once again be wiped out. Unless..... Jacen wins. And if Jacen wins, i'm done with Star Wars EU, b/c Jacen is the most annoying Sith since Anakin himself. (and Anakin was a whining brat)