Originally posted by Sol Valentine
Can you make a story out of this Snafu?
Let's see...
Getting your ass handed to you by one rampaging relative (i.e. Raidou) is one thing, but getting beaten in one blow by a 7' kickboxer is another story.
While vacationing in Hawaii with Kasumi and Ayane (the former having been allowed to return to the clan) in an attempt to mend the strained relationship between the trio, Hayate encountered Sagat.
(from my Ayane vs Sagat thread...)
Hayate, Kasumi and Ayane look up at the mountain of muscle which is the bald, one-eyed, seven-foot-three, 300 pound Emperor of Muay Thai, Sagat.
Sagat's one eye looks down at Hayate. "Let me guess...you came for a match?"
Sagat was in Hawaii to meditate and reflect on his career as a kickboxer.
Hayate charged in. "You know what they say. 'The bigger they are...'"
"Tiger...Crush!"
Knee meets face as Hayate is KO'ed before he hits the ground.
Kasumi winced. "The more bones they break?"
When Hayate came to, he found out that Ayane challenged and was defeated by Sagat. Kasumi was the smart one and decided not to challenge him.
Three months later, Hayate receives word that Sagat is in Japan, looking for the man who shared the same first name as Ryu Hayabusa.
Sagat is in Tokyo competing in a tournament when Hayate shows up before the final match. Sagat has found Ryu, but Ryu wasn't competing, due to a training accident which left his arm in a sling.
Not one to attack an already-injured man, the former Shitennou will have to settle with Hayate.
Not so sure. We have someone who pointed out Sagat being overrated long ago, now we have the same person saying he wins despite said character having no showings except an insignificant few. Hayate has the H2H showings surpassing Sagat, who has...little to none. Hayate's H2H showings (DOA3 intro and DOA2 Ultimate intro showing Hayate's Torn Sky Blast). In the DOA3 intro he was shown disabling soldiers with single chops (shows Hayate's knowledge of weak spots on the human body) whilst being invisible. In his DOA4 ending he was shown getting to multiple spots in a matter of split seconds while slaying a swat team..he's got teleportation, is a master of ninjutsu and karate, and fends off against machine gun-wielding soldiers on a basis...alas:
1. H2H (using LATEST versions of each character and not Hayate before DOA1) Hayate 56% due to his latest skills and experience as well as improvement overall.
2. Hayate armed (with weapons he had in DOA4, katana, shurikens and military bows and arrows) wtfpwns Sagat without an explanation needed.
Originally posted by Snafu the Great
Let's see...Getting your ass handed to you by one rampaging relative (i.e. Raidou) is one thing, but getting beaten in one blow by a 7' kickboxer is another story.
While vacationing in Hawaii with Kasumi and Ayane (the former having been allowed to return to the clan) in an attempt to mend the strained relationship between the trio, Hayate encountered Sagat.
(from my Ayane vs Sagat thread...)
[B]Hayate, Kasumi and Ayane look up at the mountain of muscle which is the bald, one-eyed, seven-foot-three, 300 pound Emperor of Muay Thai, Sagat.
Sagat's one eye looks down at Hayate. "Let me guess...you came for a match?"
Sagat was in Hawaii to meditate and reflect on his career as a kickboxer.
Hayate charged in. "You know what they say. 'The bigger they are...'"
"Tiger...Crush!"
Knee meets face as Hayate is KO'ed before he hits the ground.
Kasumi winced. "The more bones they break?"
When Hayate came to, he found out that Ayane challenged and was defeated by Sagat. Kasumi was the smart one and decided not to challenge him.
Three months later, Hayate receives word that Sagat is in Japan, looking for the man who shared the same first name as Ryu Hayabusa.
Sagat is in Tokyo competing in a tournament when Hayate shows up before the final match. Sagat has found Ryu, but Ryu wasn't competing, due to a training accident which left his arm in a sling.
Not one to attack an already-injured man, the former Shitennou will have to settle with Hayate. [/B]
That's a nice intro.
Anyway, Sagat would win this.
How? Like WF said, Sagat lacks enough feats, and in the DOA2 intro, His Torn Sky Blast was enough to destroy the DOATEC building, he also had enough speed to speedblitz and chop down those soldiers that were in his way, he has powerful ninjutsu, and teleportation skills.
But I still give the strength category to Sagat though.
Originally posted by Sol ValentineAbout destroying the DOATEC building, Hayate didn't do that. That's Ayane's feat in DOA4.
How? Like WF said, Sagat lacks enough feats, and in the DOA2 intro, His Torn Sky Blast was enough to destroy the DOATEC building, he also had enough speed to speedblitz and chop down those soldiers that were in his way, he has powerful ninjutsu, and teleportation skills.But I still give the strength category to Sagat though.
In the DOA2 intro (showing the events before the FIRST DOA tournament), he was overpowered by Raidou who copied the Torn Sky Blast (he can copy nearly any technique) and Raidou has feats surpassing Sagat nonetheless.
Hayate didn't speedblitz the soldiers he chopped (DOA3 intro). Instead he disabled them while being invisible (first soldier he was shown disabling happened when he was invisible).YouTube video---
He speedblitzed the soldiers he killed in his DOA4 ending.YouTube videoAnd that's why Sagat against an armed Hayate is a mismatch of colossal proportions. 😬
Sagat doesn't have the showings that should put him above Hayate in H2H. Come to think of it I don't think Sagat has any strength showings.
Edit: Sagat gets torn a scar 5 times deeper, this time in his ass.