Originally posted by Snafu the Great
I've also played Doom. Hell, I've played every single Doom from the PC to the 360. Depending on which version you play, there are some codes you can put in for Invunerablity, Weapon refill and all Keys and my favorite, level skip.But sticking in cheat codes takes away the purity of the game, me personally.
That's exactly what I mean. Without using codes or hacking/modding the game, that's just not going to happen.
But it still shows that it can be done.
Even without the extra armor the guy was taking almost no damage, not because the missiles were weak, but because he was easily dodging them. They're slow. And even though he used an excessive amount of bullets he still killed the guy with the pistol. If simple pistol bullets can do it the the Chief, who is so strong that he can lift 50 tons, could probably do it with his bare hands. If not there's other more powerful weapons then a pistol.
Also, cheats completely aside. Using only the ammo he had before he cheated he almost completely depleted the Cyberdemons health.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
the Chief, who is so strong that he can lift 50 tons, could probably do it with his bare hands.
Just need to clarify something
This statement makes it sound like you're suggesting Master Cheif can do hand to hand with a 3 story high Demon and Machine Fiend from the deepest pitts of hell, and Win.
If that is what your suggesting.... then you are just out of your mind. No offence, but when you word what your saying simply, that exactly how i see it.
Thought i don't think MC can, i would be willin to debate with you that MC may or may not be able to kill him with all weapons and equipment. That's one thing, But beating the Cyberdemons with his bare hands, I seriously doubt Kratos would pull that off, never ruddy mind MC
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
But it still shows that it can be done.Even without the extra armor the guy was taking almost no damage, not because the missiles were weak, but because he was easily dodging them. They're slow. And even though he used an excessive amount of bullets he still killed the guy with the pistol. If simple pistol bullets can do it the the Chief, who is so strong that he can lift 50 tons, could probably do it with his bare hands. If not there's other more powerful weapons then a pistol.
Also, cheats completely aside. Using only the ammo he had before he cheated he almost completely depleted the Cyberdemons health.
Master Chief can only do this because:
1. He isn't completely human.
2. He was biologically and cybernetically augmented and enhanced while undergoing his SPARTAN-II super-soldier training, hence the superhuman strength.
3. The Space Marine is human
4. He mostly shot his way through Hell and back to avenge Daisy.
Originally posted by Snafu the Great
Master Chief can only do this because:1. He isn't completely human.
2. He was biologically and cybernetically augmented and enhanced while undergoing his SPARTAN-II super-soldier training, hence the superhuman strength.
3. The Space Marine is human
4. He mostly shot his way through Hell and back to avenge Daisy.
This is all true. This is why the Chief can and will do everything that Marine did, except easier. PIS aside. This was my whole point. There is nothing the Space marine can do that the Chief can't. Fact.
This statement makes it sound like you're suggesting Master Cheif can do hand to hand with a 3 story high Demon
So far I'm only referring to the Cyberdemon from the original DOOM. which looks to be only around 10-12 feet high. Easy pickings for a man of the Chief's strength.
and Machine Fiend from the deepest pitts of hell, and Win.
.. is this suppsoed to mean something at all? Titles and names mean nothing. Sephiroth is a "god" yet he's pretty weak and jobs. Melkor is a "Lord of fire and brimstone" yet he got his ass stomped by a single Elf. Having a cool name and being from some col place means nothing.
Thought i don't think MC can, i would be willin to debate with you that MC may or may not be able to kill him with all weapons and equipment.
It's intresting that everyone is yelling "Noes CHief can't win!" Yet no one bothers to back up anything they say. GIe me something. A reason as to why I would even consider the Cyberdemon winning. Because all I have right now is multiple in-game footage of a slow moving animal that fires equally slow moving missles that have weak splash damage.
That's one thing, But beating the Cyberdemons with his bare hands, I seriously doubt Kratos would pull that off, never ruddy mind MC
Do you know how much 100,000 pounds is? The Cyberdemon himself probably doesn't even weigh that much. Not too mention that again there is actual in game footage of a man beating it with his fists only. He admitted that he used a cheat but the only thing the cheat did was give him full armor before the match started.
i think Blax is just joking and making himself laugh with over fanboyism of MC, it can be the only possible answer for such madness
I think you're just mudslinging now because that's the only thing you can do after I destroyed your argument on the page before this one.
lawls destroyed my argument, using gameplay footage destroys arguments, okie someone go find a gameplay footage of chief getting one shotted by a rocket launcher lawls....
lets always go by gameplay footage, if i could be bothered i could probably enter the files of the Doom game and turn the punch damage to 5000 and destroy the cyberdemon in a hit or two...or i could change its hitpoints to millions....my cyberdemon VS that gameplay dude...i dont think so...
rubbish aside, its an enhanced soldier VS a mechanical, elite monstrosity from hell, its muscle and sinews combined with mechanical and cybernetic engineering and using a weapon that would blow the chief to pieces.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
is this suppsoed to mean something at all? Titles and names mean nothing. Sephiroth is a "god" yet he's pretty weak and jobs. Melkor is a "Lord of fire and brimstone" yet he got his ass stomped by a single Elf. Having a cool name and being from some col place means nothing.It's intresting that everyone is yelling "Noes CHief can't win!" Yet no one bothers to back up anything they say. GIe me something. A reason as to why I would even consider the Cyberdemon winning. Because all I have right now is multiple in-game footage of a slow moving animal that fires equally slow moving missles that have weak splash damage.
1. Merely defining what he is, demon / machine hybrid. He's the last boss so i would guess he comes from one of the deepest pitts of hell.
2. Lol, in all fairness everyone else thinks your off your rocker. Reasons why the CyberDemon would win?
- Rocket Launcher for an arm
- Stepping on MC would kill him
- Takes a hell of alot of firepower before he comes down
- Unlimited Ammo for his arm.
Take into account you are the only one who thinks otherwise, even Lana appears to saying your are wrong. You don't think you're under the fanboy spell even a little?
Originally posted by Remindme
- Rocket Launcher for an arm
He's fought and beaten worse.
- Stepping on MC would kill him
Too bad the Chief can run a kilometer in 9 seconds with a broken ankle and bullets move in slow motion to him. Nothing in Doom can catch up to him.
- Takes a hell of alot of firepower before he comes down
I checked. The guy in the video kills it with about 800 rounds of pistol bullets. The CHief has far more powerful weapons.
- Unlimited Ammo for his arm.
So do the Covenant.
Take into account you are the only one who thinks otherwise, even Lana appears to saying your are wrong.
Lana is nothing. I mean, she's cool. But she's just a person. Just because she's a Mod does not make her right in the slightest. And this is a logical fallacy. It's called appealing to the majority.
You don't think you're under the fanboy spell even a little?[/QUOTE]
No. Read the definition of a fanboy, then tell me how I'm a fanboy. I've clearly listed all of my points and countered all of yours. You don't see me with a Master Chief sig or a Halo name I'm not refusing to read your posts. I am simply not a fanboy. A fanboy is someone who cries because the person they want to win is limited by game mechanics.
using gameplay footage destroys arguments, okie someone go find a gameplay footage of chief getting one shotted by a rocket launcher lawls....
Exactly. That's why the Chief wins; more actual feats to back him up. The Cyber Demon has:
The games, showing what he can do. That's it.
The Chief has:
The games, books, and comics to back him up. It's not my fault Cyberdemon is weak because eh has no other sources to show his skills.
lets always go by gameplay footage, if i could be bothered i could probably enter the files of the Doom game and turn the punch damage to 5000 and destroy the cyberdemon in a hit or two...or i could change its hitpoints to millions....my cyberdemon VS that gameplay dude...i dont think so...
Let's not. Let's go by what the two people actually have to support them. The Chief has more sources. Too bad. There's no point in weakening him just so that you're character can have a chance.
rubbish aside, its an enhanced soldier VS a mechanical, elite monstrosity from hell, its muscle and sinews combined with mechanical and cybernetic engineering and using a weapon that would blow the chief to pieces.
Prove that it can blow him to pieces even though it doesn't blow the Doom guy to pieces.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
He's fought and beaten worse.Too bad the Chief can run a kilometer in 9 seconds with a broken ankle and bullets move in slow motion to him. Nothing in Doom can catch up to him.
I checked. The guy in the video kills it with about 800 rounds of pistol bullets. The CHief has far more powerful weapons.
So do the Covenant.
Lana is nothing. I mean, she's cool. But she's just a person. Just because she's a Mod does not make her right in the slightest. And this is a logical fallacy. It's called appealing to the majority.
No. Read the definition of a fanboy, then tell me how I'm a fanboy. I've clearly listed all of my points and countered all of yours. You don't see me with a Master Chief sig or a Halo name I'm not refusing to read your posts. I am simply not a fanboy. A fanboy is someone who cries because the person they want to win is limited by game mechanics.
Exactly. That's why the Chief wins; more actual feats to back him up. The Cyber Demon has:
The games, showing what he can do. That's it.
The Chief has:
The games, books, and comics to back him up. It's not my fault Cyberdemon is weak because eh has no other sources to show his skills.
Let's not. Let's go by what the two people actually have to support them. The Chief has more sources. Too bad. There's no point in weakening him just so that you're character can have a chance.
Prove that it can blow him to pieces even though it doesn't blow the Doom guy to pieces.
Fought and Beaten worse an a Cyberdemon? what might that be?
So MC can run like 250mp/h? yeah gonna have to ask you to prove it, and answer why he doesn't do that in normal games. Leading on to can he do it in this battle, after all, if he doesn't do it normally there will be a reason for it. Endurance might be one reason, even a bioengineered soldier has limits.
800 rounds of pistol bullets, why does it sound like your making that out to be nothing? Besides, sounds like you're leaning too heavily on the older doom games to me. Soul Cube only able to kill Cyberdemon is PIS (IMO), but that doesn't change the fact it's durability is several times anything ever seen in Halo. MC Might run out of ammo trying to kill a single one, fighting more than one like in the other thread is a mismatch, even if you don't see that
Are you acutally comparing the Covenant to a Cyberdemon??? That's laughable.
You've countered something? *checks* all those claims are still pending to me. Fanboy is someone who is denying the facts, an example being, Cyberdemon is not as dumb as the AI script they were using in 1993 when doom came out. Claiming that as proof for a victory claim, thats somethnig a fanboy would need to resort to.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
It's not my fault Cyberdemon is weak because eh has no other sources to show his skills.
Having more scources doesn't make your aruement any stronger, it merely gives you more points to fall back onto.
In case you haven't noticed, Master Chief isn't completely human. He is part-cyborg, as a result of undergoing cybernetic enhancements for the SPARTAN-II program, which explains his feats.
What makes the Space Marine special is that he is completely human. No cybernetics of any sort. Just the will and drive to survive...
...that and to avenge his pet rabbit, Daisy, who was killed by the monsters.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Maybe, maybe not. I've played it too.The guy there uses a cheat to get max amoo and armor I think.
But aside from that he wins.
And even if MC can beat a Cyberdemon which I have little doubt about, could he beat 14 or so without God mode? With his bare hands even? 😛
Originally posted by Blax_HydraliskDamn, should've said this to the guy who was saying I was wrong about something just because his cock-riders were saying I was on the first site I joined (he joined KMC some months ago, got pwned and left).
Lana is nothing. I mean, she's cool. But she's just a person. Just because she's a Mod does not make her right in the slightest. And this is a logical fallacy. It's called appealing to the majority.
Originally posted by Wandering Flame
Damn, should've said this to the guy who was saying I was wrong about something just because his cock-riders were saying I was on the first site I joined (he joined KMC some months ago, got pwned and left).
Originally posted by Wandering Flame
Damn, should've said this to the guy who was saying I was wrong about something just because his cock-riders were saying I was on the first site I joined (he joined KMC some months ago, got pwned and left).
I've told you this before..
you were running it in my face that more people agreed with you, that the Keyblade has an actual blade and can cut.. so I was wrong. I told you that it was a logical fallacy and doesn't mean anything and you said it does 😐
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
I've seen the Cyberdemon fight on it's hardest difficulty. It's pitiful and pathetic. A guy actually beat him using just his fists.
Originally posted by Peach
With his fists? Methinks the game was hacked/modded because the majority of weapons in Doom will not so much as make the least dent in the Cyberdemon.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Then back it up. Give me something that makes him look intimidating at all, please.If the only cinematic that we can go by are the ones from the game itself then so be it.. the Cyberdemon suffers because of it.
mmm
And, I like how this and most of the other Doom character respect threads got trashed by some Doom vs Halo debate, though as awesome as the Doom series is, its version of "hell" would easily get obliterated by the Halo universe. Not to mention, Chief vs Doom Marine isn't a fair match-up at all since the marine's only human, among other reasons.