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Passione ..::Fallen angel::..

I do think the order should look like this

1) Cat Woman/Black Cat/Cheetah (Pre Crisis)

2) Huntress/Batgirl/Elektra

3) Lady Death Strike/X 23

4) Spider Woman

5) She Hulk

6) Invisible Woman

7) Live Wire

8) Mrs. Marvel

9) Power Girl

10) Wonder Woman (Bracelets & Lasso)

11) Countdown Mary Marvel

12) 52 Isis

13) Phoenix (Jean Grey)

I also highlighted who i thik would stop her.. After fighting all of these women Storm would infact be tired and a bit warn out.. And i really feel that Ms Marvel would infact finish her off.

Power girl and not Supergirl. Seriously??

SuperiorTech Senior Member

Originally posted by Passione
I do think the order should look like this
1) Cat Woman/Black Cat/Cheetah (Pre Crisis)
2) Huntress/Batgirl/Elektra
3) Lady Death Strike/X 23
4) Spider Woman
5) She Hulk
6) Invisible Woman
7) Live Wire
[b]8) Mrs. Marvel
9) Power Girl
10) Wonder Woman (Bracelets & Lasso)
11) Countdown Mary Marvel
12) 52 Isis
13) Phoenix (Jean Grey)
I also highlighted who i thik would stop her.. After fighting all of these women Storm would infact be tired and a bit warn out.. And i really feel that Ms Marvel would infact finish her off.
Power girl and not Supergirl. Seriously?? [/B]

Though it was not stated all the fighters are most likely fully rested before each fight.

B.A Restricted

Originally posted by Passione
I do think the order should look like this
1) Cat Woman/Black Cat/Cheetah (Pre Crisis)
2) Huntress/Batgirl/Elektra
3) Lady Death Strike/X 23
4) Spider Woman
5) She Hulk
6) Invisible Woman
7) Live Wire
[b]8) Mrs. Marvel
9) Power Girl
10) Wonder Woman (Bracelets & Lasso)
11) Countdown Mary Marvel
12) 52 Isis
13) Phoenix (Jean Grey)
I also highlighted who i thik would stop her.. After fighting all of these women Storm would infact be tired and a bit warn out.. And i really feel that Ms Marvel would infact finish her off.
Power girl and not Supergirl. Seriously?? [/B]

Invisible Women beats her. 😕

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Rutog98
Storm has summoned the full power of millions of stars. Her powers have been stated on panel to be near-infinite and she was paralleled with the Dark Phoenix. She recently held the essense of the cosmic entity Eternity easily and has even overpowered God-beings who were the sum of an entire reality. I have scans for all of this if you don't want to take my word for it.

Storm summoning millions of stars? Spiderman can beat Firelord. Going by warped logic like yours he is automatically uberzor. Powers near infinate? That is quite literally impossible, your powers are either infinate or not, you can't be near it, obviously hyperbole. Powers paralleled by Dark Phoenix? I call bullshit. She needed help from Strange to hold Eternity. I am not familiar with these so-called god-like beings, but they prolly aren't that powerful to be beaten by the woman who is one shotted by Magneto, Apocalypse Thor, or Phoenix.

If Storm was real, I would have sniped her ass by now because of you.

Passione ..::Fallen angel::..

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Though it was not stated all the fighters are most likely fully rested before each fight.

You may be able to rest your body, but what about your mind!

And Sue Richards isnt all that.. I am sure that Storm could easily take her down..

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Storm summoning millions of stars? Spiderman can beat Firelord. Going by warped logic like yours he is automatically uberzor. Powers near infinate? That is quite literally impossible, your powers are either infinate or not, you can't be near it, obviously hyperbole. Powers paralleled by Dark Phoenix? I call bullshit. She needed help from Strange to hold Eternity. I am not familiar with these so-called god-like beings, but they prolly aren't that powerful to be beaten by the woman who is one shotted by Magneto, Apocalypse Thor, or Phoenix.
If Storm was real, I would have sniped her ass by now because of you.

You didn't get the Memo ....Ororo is the new Pre-Crisis Superman. With her new 'million star' weather powers, and a couple of really rabid 'fans,' she is already beyond PC Supes and will, at this rate, be greater than LT.

B.A Restricted

You mean she isn't already?

2damnloud Restricted

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Storm summoning millions of stars? Spiderman can beat Firelord. Going by warped logic like yours he is automatically uberzor. Powers near infinate? That is quite literally impossible, your powers are either infinate or not, you can't be near it, obviously hyperbole. Powers paralleled by Dark Phoenix? I call bullshit. She needed help from Strange to hold Eternity. I am not familiar with these so-called god-like beings, but they prolly aren't that powerful to be beaten by the woman who is one shotted by Magneto, Apocalypse Thor, or Phoenix.
If Storm was real, I would have sniped her ass by now because of you.

I don" think it's fai that you compare Storm to SMvsFL in the sense of huge power level jump with regar to plot.

Storm has always been and always will be one of the most poweful beings on Marvel earth(stated in canon) whether it's in coherence with your little tear system is irrelevant.

In fact, she has used the stars to make lightning in the following issue( http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acantistorm11mj2.jpg )

All written by CC, who wrote maybe 80- 90% of who and what Storm is and what she could do.

She has always been written to have an almost empathic spiritual connection with certain things around her, like Plants or trees. These things have absoulutlely nothing to do with the weather.

It is logical to deduce that she could, when in the core, summon the entire thing, given it was a suicide mission

It's utterly laughable that you guys cannot point out any instances of energy manipulation that has clearly "maxed Storm out" other than her blizzard scenario in Uncanny 121 or her statement about Thor in 147. All of this BEFORE the galactic core.

It's logical to deduce that she always operates at that level, that's why she must always keep her emotions in check.

When's the last time we've seen Ororo really "go at" someone? Never.

Hell, she doesn't even use raw lightning. She always channels it threw herself to stun and not kill.

She even did that to the Brood in te scan above who compeletely screwed over her.

As we can clearly see, she was READILY operating at a level in which she could harness celestial energy from the the stars.

Is not everthrig written for the sake of a plot........IN A STORY??😂

Is not that same Jean/Phoenix combo that shitstomped Firelord, the same Jean that got owned by frickin Magneto? LMAO

You guys would readily believe, that somehow, a guy who can barely handly one aspect of the fundementals of the universe(not even the full spectrum), can best the primal force of creation itself.

It's laughable

It's clear bias.

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Storm fangirls make me laugh.

KK the Great Junior Member

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I don" think it's fai that you compare Storm to SMvsFL in the sense of huge power level jump with regar to plot.

True.

Spider-Man vs Firelord was nowhere near as ridiculous as the galactic core incident, hereafter referred to as "LOL."

Badabing Gym rat

Originally posted by Passione
I do think the order should look like this
1) Cat Woman/Black Cat/Cheetah (Pre Crisis)
2) Huntress/Batgirl/Elektra
3) Lady Death Strike/X 23
4) Spider Woman
5) She Hulk
6) Invisible Woman
7) Live Wire
[b]8) Mrs. Marvel
9) Power Girl
10) Wonder Woman (Bracelets & Lasso)
11) Countdown Mary Marvel
12) 52 Isis
13) Phoenix (Jean Grey)
I also highlighted who i thik would stop her.. After fighting all of these women Storm would infact be tired and a bit warn out.. And i really feel that Ms Marvel would infact finish her off.
Power girl and not Supergirl. Seriously?? [/B]

Power Girl has bigger.........I mean, yes Power Girl. 😛

Everybody, let's refrain from the bashing. Sue vs Storm is a close fight.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I don" think it's fai that you compare Storm to SMvsFL in the sense of huge power level jump with regar to plot.

It doesn't matter if you think it's fair. I don't think its fair for you and Rutog to grossly misrepresent the character on a consistant basis the way you do. I also don't think its fair for you guys to tarnish her reputation by grossly misepresenting her to the forum's populace. But hey, that's life. Nothing I can do about your fanboyism, and nothing you can do about the fact that that feat is SMvsFL

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm has always been and always will be one of the most poweful beings on Marvel earth(stated in canon) whether it's in coherence with your little tear system is irrelevant.

More Hyperbole. "One of the most" is used alot. Its right up there with "nigh" and "nearly".

Originally posted by 2damnloud
In fact, she has used the stars to make lightning in the following issue( http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acantistorm11mj2.jpg )

Where does it say she's using stars in that scan? And note where it's noted that "It isn't easy" and how she "goes blind with pain"?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
All written by CC, who wrote maybe 80- 90% of who and what Storm is and what she could do.

And who had no grasp of how character's powers actually worked. Look at Jubilee and the non-sense buzz talk he gave for Jubilee explaining her own powers. Look at how he retconned some of his own events when he realized he made a mistake.

Your appeal to authority fallacy won't fly now, just as it never flew in the past.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
She has always been written to have an almost empathic spiritual connection with certain things around her, like Plants or trees. These things have absoulutlely nothing to do with the weather.

Nor has she ever manipulated them outside of anything a normal person can do.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It is logical to deduce that she could, when in the core, summon the entire thing, given it was a suicide mission

How is it logical when you've used nothing but fallacy to back this up? This "spiritual connection" is a red herring of the non-sequiter variety. Saying that Claremont wrote it is an appeal to authority... It's logical to deduce that this conclusion is as fallicious as the arguments used to arrive at it.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It's utterly laughable that you guys cannot point out any instances of energy manipulation that has clearly "maxed Storm out" other than her blizzard scenario in Uncanny 121 or her statement about Thor in 147. All of this BEFORE the galactic core.

It's utterly laughable how you think that nothing Storm does that exceeds her limits is SMvsFL and everything undder your fan-wanked proportions is PIS.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It's logical to deduce that she always operates at that level,

Wishful thinking fallacy.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
that's why she must always keep her emotions in check.
When's the last time we've seen Ororo really "go at" someone? Never.
Hell, she doesn't even use raw lightning. She always channels it threw herself to stun and not kill.

Except for when she summons it down from the sky... It's funny how in character she never kills, yet in any given fight you have her killing... another misrepresentation on your part that goes against the very nature of the character that you profess to understand but clearly do not.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
She even did that to the Brood in te scan above who compeletely screwed over her.
As we can clearly see, she was READILY operating at a level in which she could harness celestial energy from the the stars.

Not without proof she's not.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Is not everthrig written for the sake of a plot........IN A STORY??😂

Begging the question. Its STUPID wiriting for the sake of the plot. Like writing yourself into a corner you can't get out of you pull something stupid to get out of it.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Is not that same Jean/Phoenix combo that shitstomped Firelord, the same Jean that got owned by frickin Magneto? LMAO
You guys would readily believe, that somehow, a guy who can barely handly one aspect of the fundementals of the universe(not even the full spectrum), can best the primal force of creation itself.

Red herring. We aren't talking about phoenix here, we're talking about Storm. 🙂 Nice try though.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It's laughable
It's clear bias.

On your part. 😉

2damnloud Restricted

Originally posted by Creshosk
It doesn't matter if you think it's fair. I don't think its fair for you and Rutog to grossly misrepresent the character on a consistant basis the way you do. I also don't think its fair for you guys to tarnish her reputation by grossly misepresenting her to the forum's populace. But hey, that's life. Nothing I can do about your fanboyism, and nothing you can do about the fact that that feat is SMvsFL

Opinion.

No facts.

Originally posted by Creshosk
More Hyperbole. "One of the most" is used alot. Its right up there with "nigh" and "nearly".

Denying the antecedant

No facts yet again.

If it's used "a lot" then it is false??

Please. 😂

Originally posted by Creshosk

Where does it say she's using stars in that scan? And note where it's noted that "It isn't easy" and how she "goes blind with pain"?

Also note how you ignore the context.

A still healing body.

Empty space bright stars and solid planets.

It says so.

Originally posted by Creshosk

And who had no grasp of how character's powers actually worked. Look at Jubilee and the non-sense buzz talk he gave for Jubilee explaining her own powers. Look at how he retconned some of his own events when he realized he made a mistake.

No grasp of how the character's powers worked, when it is he who made the character??

Ad Hominem/Poisoning the well 😮‍💨

Nor has she ever manipulated them outside of anything a normal person can do.

Strawman.

I never said she did.

How is it logical when you've used nothing but fallacy to back this up? This "spiritual connection" is a red herring of the non-sequiter variety. Saying that Claremont wrote it is an appeal to authority... It's logical to deduce that this conclusion is as fallicious as the arguments used to arrive at it.

@ the bolded- Lack of Proportion fallacy. 🙄

No red herring because it directly correlates to the subject in question.

It would only be an Appeal to Authority if Claremont wasn't an authority.

No a non-sequiter. Where did you get that from? 😂

It's utterly laughable how you think that nothing Storm does that exceeds her limits is SMvsFL and everything undder your fan-wanked proportions is PIS

Strawman.

Which makes me wonder how you got "non-sequiter" when you can't even properly decipher my argument. LMAO

Wishful thinking fallacy.

Strawman

"A deductive argument is sound if and only if it is both valid, and all of its premises are actually true. Otherwise, a deductive argument is unsound."

What's my argument, anyway? 😂

Except for when she summons it down from the sky... It's funny how in character she never kills, yet in any given fight you have her killing... another misrepresentation on your part that goes against the very nature of the character that you profess to understand but clearly do not.

Strawman.

I never said she would never kill. I have said she doesn't like to.

She killed the Brood and would have inadvertently killed herself, if she wasn't.........ya kow..........so ****in powerfulermmhappy

I'll finish.✅

KK the Great Junior Member

Originally posted by 2damnloud

Denying the antecedant
No facts yet again.
If it's used "a lot" then it is false??
Please. 😂

What is it with this board and people trying to namedrop fallacies they don't understand?

There are over six billion people on Earth. Spider-Man is one of the most powerful people on the planet.

Denying the antecedant
Ad Hominem/Poisoning the well
Strawman.
@ the bolded- Lack of Proportion fallacy.
red herring
It would only be an Appeal to Authority if Claremont wasn't an authority.
a non-sequiter.
Strawman.
Wishful thinking fallacy.
Strawman
Strawman.

Jesus christ, kid. Citing a dozen fallacies incorrectly doesn't make you look intelligent. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by KK the Great
What is it with this board and people trying to namedrop fallacies they don't understand?
There are over six billion people on Earth. Spider-Man is one of the most powerful people on the planet.

Technically, if you want to get into it, even the least powerful person would be 'one of the most powerful.'

But the point you were trying to make is assisted by the Spiderman comparison.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I don" think it's fai that you compare Storm to SMvsFL in the sense of huge power level jump with regar to plot.
Storm has always been and always will be one of the most poweful beings on Marvel earth(stated in canon) whether it's in coherence with your little tear system is irrelevant.
In fact, she has used the stars to make lightning in the following issue( http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acantistorm11mj2.jpg )
All written by CC, who wrote maybe 80- 90% of who and what Storm is and what she could do.
She has always been written to have an almost empathic spiritual connection with certain things around her, like Plants or trees. These things have absoulutlely nothing to do with the weather.
It is logical to deduce that she could, when in the core, summon the entire thing, given it was a suicide mission
It's utterly laughable that you guys cannot point out any instances of energy manipulation that has clearly "maxed Storm out" other than her blizzard scenario in Uncanny 121 or her statement about Thor in 147. All of this BEFORE the galactic core.
It's logical to deduce that she always operates at that level, that's why she must always keep her emotions in check.
When's the last time we've seen Ororo really "go at" someone? Never.
Hell, she doesn't even use raw lightning. She always channels it threw herself to stun and not kill.
She even did that to the Brood in te scan above who compeletely screwed over her.
As we can clearly see, she was READILY operating at a level in which she could harness celestial energy from the the stars.
Is not everthrig written for the sake of a plot........IN A STORY??😂
Is not that same Jean/Phoenix combo that shitstomped Firelord, the same Jean that got owned by frickin Magneto? LMAO
You guys would readily believe, that somehow, a guy who can barely handly one aspect of the fundementals of the universe(not even the full spectrum), can best the primal force of creation itself.
It's laughable
It's clear bias.

Wtf? I hardly see why my post called for a word quilt.

1. ....What?

2. And gets one shotted by Apocalypse. By throwing Beast at her.

3. And it was not easy and she was in pain while doing so.

4. Appeal to Authority. Didn't he also do the stupid solar winds crap?

5. And...that helps in a fight how? MY UBERZ0R CUNECSHIN WIT TREES WIL GIFF ME T3H WINZOR!

6. Not without proof to back it up I am afraid.

7. Once again, what?

8. Okay. I assume that since Magneto has magnetism powers, he can magnetically move omniverse.

9. Apocalypse...Thor...Hulk...Prolly more I cannot remember.

10. What about the times she used it from the sky to kill?

11. And?

12. Lol...no. Prove it.

13. Right, it is because of that PIS or related occurences exist.

14. That was not Phoenix at full power, and Magneto is leagues above Storm, so I hardly see the point.

15. So now Storm has the power of the big bang?

16. It's laughable

It's clear bias

It happened.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Opinion.
No facts.

No, they're facts. You not likeing it doesn't devalue them into opinions. The feat is not backed by any other occurances of the same type of feat. she only absorbed the galactic core once.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Denying the antecedant

You wish... though you never really had a strong grasp on logic so its not surprising you're using the term incorrectly. It seems whenever there's something you cannot refute you throw that out.

For example what is the "If"?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
No facts yet again.

On your part.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
If it's used "a lot" then it is false??

Strawman.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Please. 😂

Please yourself.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Also note how you ignore the context.

Not that you'd even know what context is. You just look at a scan, ignore the context of how it cam to be, and then try to use it as evidence.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
A still healing body.
Empty space bright stars and solid planets.

It says so.[/b][/quote] And it didn't say she was chanelling the lighning through the stars. That would be ridiculous and completely ignores the distances between stars and the two opponents in the given scan.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
No grasp of how the character's powers worked, when it is he who made the character??

That's right. Do you know what explination he gave? Do you know what it means?

Jubilee was created as a character who could shoot fireworks. That's the character concept. How'd he explain it? With buzz speak which meant nothing in actuality.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Ad Hominem/Poisoning the well 😮‍💨

Wishful thinking fallacy.

Sorry, but its true, he has no grasp of how a characters powers work.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Strawman.
I never said she did.

I never said you did. I was pointing out how this "Spiritual connection" was a red herring.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
@ the bolded- Lack of Proportion fallacy. 🙄

Wishful thinking fallacy/

Originally posted by 2damnloud
No red herring because it directly correlates to the subject in question.

It has NOTHING to do with her powerset.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It would only be an Appeal to Authority if Claremont wasn't an authority.

Wrong. But thanks for proving you know nothing about what fallacies are, but then we already know that from your frequent misuse of them.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
No a non-sequiter. Where did you get that from? 😂

It's non sequential. saying that she has a spiritual connection and citieing plants and trees does not follow the connection to her powerset.

It's misleading and has nothing to do with the topic of her powerset. Therefore its a red herring.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Strawman.

Wishful thinking fallacy.

I'm sorry but you have made it clear through implications that low showings for storm are PIS...

5 times in 32 years
😄 @ all them sides Phoenix being able to do what she can do.
All are PIS.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Which makes me wonder how you got "non-sequiter" when you can't even properly decipher my argument. LMAO

This is denying the antecedant.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Wishful thinking fallacy.
Strawman

How is pointint out that your argument is not valid simply because you say it is an exageration of your claims?

You make a claim I call bullshit, that's not a strawman...

Originally posted by 2damnloud
"A deductive argument is sound if and only if it is both valid, and all of its premises are actually true. Otherwise, a deductive argument is unsound."
What's my argument, anyway? 😂

That she always operates on a level of power she's only been shown to do 3 times in current continuity when the times she's operated under that power level are alot more frequent.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Strawman.

Oh really?

So this wasn't you talking about Storm KILLING Sue?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
And even if it wasnt, the other scenario works just as well for Storm to kill Sue.

Oh wait it is, which means I'm NOT exagerating your claims.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I never said she would never kill. I have said she doesn't like to.

I never said you said that.

Looks like you're the one that can't decipher arguments properly.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
She killed the Brood and would have inadvertently killed herself, if she wasn't.........ya kow..........so ****in powerfulermmhappy

Or you know, scripted not to die. 🙄

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I'll finish.✅

In last place proving that ignorance is bliss...

Rutog98 Senior Member

😆 😆 😆

This is ridiculous. Well, I can say SM vs. FL to any of your posts to that I don't like. lol. We can all play this game. Storm beats all the women together. If you come up with anything I don't like, it's SM vs. FL. I'm right and you're wrong.

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by Rutog98
😆 😆 😆
This is ridiculous. Well, I can say SM vs. FL to any of your posts to that I don't like. lol. We can all play this game. Storm beats all the women together. If you come up with anything I don't like, it's SM vs. FL. I'm right and you're wrong.

Good idea, I guess, except...well...

You're not.

And he's not.

🙂.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Rutog98
😆 😆 😆
This is ridiculous. Well, I can say SM vs. FL to any of your posts to that I don't like. lol. We can all play this game. Storm beats all the women together. If you come up with anything I don't like, it's SM vs. FL. I'm right and you're wrong.

So you're the equal and opposite reaction when logic pushes?

Clearly you don't understand what SmvFl is... its not "I don't like it" its "They did something that was outside of their powerset once."

And yeah it is ridiculous for you to grossly misinterpret both the rules and what we're saying like that.

Can't argue within the Rules of KMC? Then prehaps you shouldn't argue at all since your "Brilliant" *coughdelusionalcough* mind can't grasp such a simple concept...