Originally posted by lando005
wm dosen't fight that effecently though and these two have quite a good record against bricks flight would not make that big of a difference. Spidy beats most bricks 9/10 all the time not due to power but by out smarting and out performing them, and wolverine can simply outlast most bricks and is one of the most seasoned fighters of marvel earth. That more than makes up for any lack of power they may have in a few areas
this is without cis/pis. he would do what he needs to WIN this fight. you keep saying they would win without saying how. saying that they could out-think or outlast him doesn't do any good in this forum.
he can ohk spiderman and with one shot bfr wolverine for the win. if he doesn't just decide to drop buildings on them, shockwave them or simply fight h2h. wolverine MIGHT be able to cut him, but even if he did he is an ionic energy being -- it's not like he 'dies'. he is immortal. some of his energy would disperse, but he would still be WAYYY to powerful for either of them and he would heal.
team wins every time even IF wolverine can cut him.
Originally posted by leonidasall battles take place in character unless otherwise stated he's not going to fight like a machine. WM's personality will be his downfall. I didnt give an exact way because there could be any number of ways the could win given a specific situation.wm could fly right at them and spidy could fast ball special logan at him at the last moment or something. It's not beyond either of their abilites to bet guys like wm because they do it on a consistant bases
this is without cis/pis. he would do what he needs to WIN this fight. you keep saying they would win without saying how. saying that they could out-think or outlast him doesn't do any good in this forum.he can ohk spiderman and with one shot bfr wolverine for the win. if he doesn't just decide to drop buildings on them, shockwave them or simply fight h2h. wolverine MIGHT be able to cut him, but even if he did he is an ionic energy being -- it's not like he 'dies'. he is immortal. some of his energy would disperse, but he would still be WAYYY to powerful for either of them and he would heal.
team wins every time even IF wolverine can cut him.
Originally posted by leonidas
this is without cis/pis. he would do what he needs to WIN this fight. you keep saying they would win without saying how. saying that they could out-think or outlast him doesn't do any good in this forum.he can ohk spiderman and with one shot bfr wolverine for the win. if he doesn't just decide to drop buildings on them, shockwave them or simply fight h2h. wolverine MIGHT be able to cut him, but even if he did he is an ionic energy being -- it's not like he 'dies'. he is immortal. some of his energy would disperse, but he would still be WAYYY to powerful for either of them and he would heal.
team wins every time even IF wolverine can cut him.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!! IS THAT LEO WITH A NEW FREAKIN SIG AND AVATAR?!?!?!?!
Originally posted by lando005
all battles take place in character unless otherwise stated he's not going to fight like a machine. WM's personality will be his downfall. I didnt give an exact way because there could be any number of ways the could win given a specific situation.wm could fly right at them and spidy could fast ball special logan at him at the last moment or something. It's not beyond either of their abilites to bet guys like wm because they do it on a consistant bases
fighting like a machine? you somehow don't think he's smart enough to want to, i don't know . . . AVOID claws that may or may not be able to cut him?? running into the fight like an idiot WOULD be out of character i'm afraid.
and there really are NOT any number of ways they could win. wm could pretty easily . . . move out of the way of a fastball. i think you are either very seriously underestimating wm, or over estimating the team. you said spidey has done well against bricks in the past. can you name me one cl100 brick (flier OR non-flier) he has beaten? wolvie HAS done pretty well against non-fliers who have no CHOICE but to tackle him h2h. namor was an idiot when he got stabbed. in this forum, most believe namor would demolish wolverine if he used all his abilities to the fullest. i happen to be one, but i think wolvie COULD score maybe 1 out of 10 against namor who's durability (at least his ability to heal or be cut) is LESS than wonderman's.
even if he fights like a dummy, it's hard to see a way short of letting wolverine hack him over and over, that the team could do enough damage to win this.
Originally posted by leonidas
cuz he could just sit up there and shockwave repeatedly until wolvie can barely stand then hit him so many times he scrambles his brains ala hulk . . .?or just divebomb him at max speed and even if the claws hit it won't matter wolvie will be pulp?
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ya WM in character would sit above logan doing shock waves lol that in character for him.
dive bomb............and get stabb through the head and die. ya good strat there.
sorry but dive bombing wolverine won't KO him.
hit him so many times in the head? with out getting stabb? not likly.
If logan can stabb him logan wins if not well wm.
Originally posted by leonidaswm's not an idiot but he's not as cleaver or adaptable as pete and nowhere near as skilled as logan. Flight is not that big of a problem for these guys because they have faced fliers befor and have come out on top. You want a brick spidy has beaten? hyde comes to mind quite as he embarrased him quite easily on their first encounter, he also did quite well against mason thor, taking out titanna during the secret war is also a good example, as for logan this is someone who would look forward to a 12 hour scrap with the hulk so we wont even go there(which by the way he was able to cut even while enraged, enraged hulk durability > wonderman durability). I'm not under or over estimating anyone, but facts speak for them selves that these two do quite well against bricks
fighting like a machine? you somehow don't think he's smart enough to want to, i don't know . . . AVOID claws that may or may not be able to cut him?? running into the fight like an idiot WOULD be out of character i'm afraid.and there really are NOT any number of ways they could win. wm could pretty easily . . . move out of the way of a fastball. i think you are either very seriously underestimating wm, or over estimating the team. you said spidey has done well against bricks in the past. can you name me one cl100 brick (flier OR non-flier) he has beaten? wolvie HAS done pretty well against non-fliers who have no CHOICE but to tackle him h2h. namor was an idiot when he got stabbed. in this forum, most believe namor would demolish wolverine if he used all his abilities to the fullest. i happen to be one, but i think wolvie COULD score maybe 1 out of 10 against namor who's durability (at least his ability to heal or be cut) is LESS than wonderman's.
even if he fights like a dummy, it's hard to see a way short of letting wolverine hack him over and over, that the team could do enough damage to win this.
Originally posted by lando005
wm's not an idiot but he's not as cleaver or adaptable as pete and nowhere near as skilled as logan. Flight is not that big of a problem for these guys because they have faced fliers befor and have come out on top. You want a brick spidy has beaten? hyde comes to mind quite as he embarrased him quite easily on their first encounter, he also did quite well against mason thor, taking out titanna during the secret war is also a good example, as for logan this is someone who would look forward to a 12 hour scrap with the hulk so we wont even go there(which by the way he was able to cut even while enraged, enraged hulk durability > wonderman durability). I'm not under or over estimating anyone, but facts speak for them selves that these two do quite well against bricks
hyde is cl50 and cannot fly. titania is closer, but can't fly and was utterly inexperienced in sw. mason thor also inexperienced and never in danger and THAT's the class wm is in. but he IS very experienced. hulk can't fly.
meh, believe what you will. you've given no logical way the team can win other than the airy and unconvincing 'they could out-think him'. we'll agree to disagree. 😉
Originally posted by leonidasyou said flyer or no flyer dont see what's the problem. Very well we'll agree to disagree
hyde is cl50 and cannot fly. titania is closer, but can't fly and was utterly inexperienced in sw. mason thor also inexperienced and never in danger and THAT's the class wm is in. but he IS very experienced. hulk can't fly.meh, believe what you will. you've given no logical way the team can win other than the airy and unconvincing 'they could out-think him'. we'll agree to disagree. 😉