Re: what are the 3 top land animals?
Originally posted by Master-BorgMy choices for land animals (not including humans, the most dangerous of all, or the female anopheles mosquito with malaria causing plasmodium, the second most dangerous animal in the world, or the african water snail with bilharzia, or the Indian Russels Viper that kills around 10,000 Indians a year.....any of a bunch of dangerous critters .....so let me just concentrate on large mammals).
edit: oops, wrong forum
1) African Bull Elephant: Nothing can really take one down on a 1 to 1 basis, and they have been shown to kill other animals (particularly Rhinos) at water holes during periods of drought.
2) Bull Hippo: Apart from a Bull Elephant, nothing can take down a male hippo 1 to 1 apart from another Bull Hippo or a person with powerful weapons and skill . They have excessively thick hide that is very difficult to penetrate (at oblique angles rifle bullets have ricocheted off), they have battle tusks (they are elongated teeth found in the bulls used for fighting) which are self-whetting (self-sharpening) and capable of inflicting severe wounds, and Bull Hippos have the worst temper of any animal in Africa (and are responsible for the most human deaths caused by a mammal in Africa ....more than lions, leopards, rhinos, elephants, buffalo combined). An encounter with a hippo, where you are between them and water, is a very bad situation. They may be herbivores, but they will chop you in half as they rush towards the water. Anyways, the only animal that can kill a Bull Hippo 1 to 1 is an Elephant (female hippos have been recorded chopping crocodiles in half while protecting their young, and the females are smaller than the males by a good margin)
3) Siberian Tiger: This was a hard one, and I almost put another herbivore (in this case either the African Cape Buffalo, or the Indian Gaur, before eliminating them because certain large lion specimens ...e.g. the African lions of the Ngorongonro crater, or a large Indian Gir lion, can take them out respectively). There was also the case of the Ursa clan ....the grizzly and the polar bear. But then again, the cats would be much faster than the bear in attack ferocity (and almost match them in power). There was also the case for the African lion (larger than the Indian gir lion, particularly certain African lions that stay in areas of Kenya, Tanzania and parts of Southern Africa that can be larger than most people would expect), especially since ALL that the African lion does is simply mate and fight off other males trying to take over the pride. An adult African lion is simply a fighter ....the females do all the hunting, and the lion's side of the deal is to ensure that he kills or drives off any intruding males (who would otherwise kill him, kill all the cubs, and then mate with the lionesses). Thus there is a fighting edge ...and not a small one. However the Siberian tiger has a profound size advantage that gave it the overall win for 3rd place in my book (as i mentioned, there are some African lions in certain areas ....e.g. the swamp lions of Tanzania, which are significantly larger than the average African lion, and the lions that stay in Tsavo in Kenya ....and they can be larger than the tiger species, which is interesting because tiger specie like the Bengal tend to be on average larger than lions. However, even these 'mutant' lions are not larger than an adult male Siberian/Amur tiger). Thus I'd place the Siberian in 3rd.
There are other favorable mentions (e.g. the Rhino), but they have deficiencies (e.g. for the Rhino it is things like near-sightedness) and there is more thna one species (i.e. the African White Rhino is almost twice the size of the African black Rhino, but it is the black type that is aggressive while the white is largely docile. And then there are the armored, and in one case 'wooly', Asian rhinos). Also, a black rhino will not mess with one of the Ngorongoro crater lions i was talking about.
lol, Here's the top 10!
http://www.livescience.com/animals/top10_deadliestanimals.html
Originally posted by UniOmniI think my brother had those to. He had lots of freakin cards I wouldnt have the patience to look them up.
Male African ElephantHippo - Teeth are extremely dangerous, and nasty tempers with highest death rate in Africa.
White Rhino - They are near-sighted to the point of blindness iirc, but their size and bulk make them top 3.
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Re: Re: what are the 3 top land animals?
Originally posted by spetznazput much thought into this?
My choices for land animals (not including humans, the most dangerous of all, or the female anopheles mosquito with malaria causing plasmodium, the second most dangerous animal in the world, or the african water snail with bilharzia, or the Indian Russels Viper that kills around 10,000 Indians a year.....any of a bunch of dangerous critters .....so let me just concentrate on large mammals).1) African Bull Elephant: Nothing can really take one down on a 1 to 1 basis, and they have been shown to kill other animals (particularly Rhinos) at water holes during periods of drought.
2) Bull Hippo: Apart from a Bull Elephant, nothing can take down a male hippo 1 to 1 apart from another Bull Hippo or a person with powerful weapons and skill . They have excessively thick hide that is very difficult to penetrate (at oblique angles rifle bullets have ricocheted off), they have battle tusks (they are elongated teeth found in the bulls used for fighting) which are self-whetting (self-sharpening) and capable of inflicting severe wounds, and Bull Hippos have the worst temper of any animal in Africa (and are responsible for the most human deaths caused by a mammal in Africa ....more than lions, leopards, rhinos, elephants, buffalo combined). An encounter with a hippo, where you are between them and water, is a very bad situation. They may be herbivores, but they will chop you in half as they rush towards the water. Anyways, the only animal that can kill a Bull Hippo 1 to 1 is an Elephant (female hippos have been recorded chopping crocodiles in half while protecting their young, and the females are smaller than the males by a good margin)
3) Siberian Tiger: This was a hard one, and I almost put another herbivore (in this case either the African Cape Buffalo, or the Indian Gaur, before eliminating them because certain large lion specimens ...e.g. the African lions of the Ngorongonro crater, or a large Indian Gir lion, can take them out respectively). There was also the case of the Ursa clan ....the grizzly and the polar bear. But then again, the cats would be much faster than the bear in attack ferocity (and almost match them in power). There was also the case for the African lion (larger than the Indian gir lion, particularly certain African lions that stay in areas of Kenya, Tanzania and parts of Southern Africa that can be larger than most people would expect), especially since ALL that the African lion does is simply mate and fight off other males trying to take over the pride. An adult African lion is simply a fighter ....the females do all the hunting, and the lion's side of the deal is to ensure that he kills or drives off any intruding males (who would otherwise kill him, kill all the cubs, and then mate with the lionesses). Thus there is a fighting edge ...and not a small one. However the Siberian tiger has a profound size advantage that gave it the overall win for 3rd place in my book (as i mentioned, there are some African lions in certain areas ....e.g. the swamp lions of Tanzania, which are significantly larger than the average African lion, and the lions that stay in Tsavo in Kenya ....and they can be larger than the tiger species, which is interesting because tiger specie like the Bengal tend to be on average larger than lions. However, even these 'mutant' lions are not larger than an adult male Siberian/Amur tiger). Thus I'd place the Siberian in 3rd.
There are other favorable mentions (e.g. the Rhino), but they have deficiencies (e.g. for the Rhino it is things like near-sightedness) and there is more thna one species (i.e. the African White Rhino is almost twice the size of the African black Rhino, but it is the black type that is aggressive while the white is largely docile. And then there are the armored, and in one case 'wooly', Asian rhinos). Also, a black rhino will not mess with one of the Ngorongoro crater lions i was talking about.
Re: Re: Re: what are the 3 top land animals?
Originally posted by lando005
put much thought into this?
LOL.
In a past life I was into wildlife (particularly when you consider I was born and raised to the age of 18 in a certain African nation). Thus, I do tend to know something about them (had an interesting encounter while in a group with some hippos at some lodge).
Grizzly bears are neither stronger nor do they have "sharper claws" than a polar bear.
Larger? Yes. Sharper? Not even close.
Grizzlies use their claws for digging...they're long and dull like a dogs. A polar bear on the other hand has shorter, sharper claws, more similar to a cat. They need sharper claws to pull seals, walruses, beluga whales, etc out of the water, holes, and across the ice.
Hell, you and I have already had this debate Capt.
Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
I never said they were smaller, I said they were made for SLICING. A brown bears claws are long and made for DIGGING, whereas the Polar Bear uses it's claws to cut open seal flesh.Siberian Tigers are also known to DIE trying to kill those bears. Also, the tiger has two of the things that put the Polar Bear above the Grizzly: Arm (leg) Strength matched with Slicing Claws. Now, I'm not being so ignorant as to say a Siberian Tiger has anywhere near the strength as a Grizzly, but I'm saying that matched with it's claws gives it a distinct advantage.
Now, to the bears. The Polar Bear has a GREATLY improved leg/arm strength, as well as a better usage of it's weight. It has evolved from the Grizzly to have stronger shoulders and limbs to smash through ice, as well as the sharp, cutting claws to grip seals and fling them from their burrows.
Lets look at the common diet of the Grizzly Bear: roots, parsnips, grasses, sedges, and a variety fish. [b]15%
of their diet is meat.Now, the Polar Bears: Ringed Seals, Bearded Seals, Harp Seals, Hooded Seals, and on the more extreme end: Beluga Whales, Narwhals, Walruses and Bowhead Whales. Their diet is over 90% meat.
My point?
With their size, strength, and tools created specifically to cut flesh and take down other stronger, heavier animals, the Polar Bear is far more equipped and is much more comfortable in a 'combat situation' than a Grizzly.
Polar>Grizzly. [/B]
Heh, funny to see you've completely changed sides on the issue Smurph:
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Please.A polar bear easily has more combat expierience.
A brown bear occaisionally must fight off a tiger or another bear, but their average diet consists of grasses, fruits, bulbs and roots, insects, fish and small animals. In few areas there are known to be predators of larger animals such as caribou and moose.
The polar bear, for their CONSTANT diet must kill such animals as seals, young walruses, beluga whales, musk oxen, reindeer, and the bigger ones even go for adult walruses, which are generally twice the weight of the polar bear. Thats a waaaaaaaaaay bigger predator for you.
Walrus getting wtfbbqpwnzord by a polar bear:
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Animals that walk on All fours?Elephants
Rhino's
Male BuffalooAnimals who walk on two legs occasionally or most of the time
Polar Bears/Grizzlies
Gorillas
Komoto's
These discussions on male orientated forums always bring the silverback gorilla comments. Firstly, a gorilla would never fight a big bear, it would run away. Secondly, in the unlikely event they did fight, a polar or grizzly bear is a lot bigger than a gorilla and possibly stronger all round. The bear would get some bad cuts and bites, but the gorilla would die.
This Elephant attack in India is pretty crazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx7pPxJ4qvI
Originally posted by Priest
This Elephant attack in India is pretty crazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx7pPxJ4qvI