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Originally posted by Ouallada
Normally I would take that route. However, IF someone were to give Thor a win over SS because a WM Thor with PG beat SS, Thor getting knocked down and out counts as a loss as per forum rules. Nothing consequential happened after that. The rain only seperated the two.

You really gotta stop these outlandish claims. It may help with retaining a tad bit of credibility.

Thor doesn't have the PG when he fights Surfer.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS15.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS16.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS17.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS18.jpg

He doesn't get it until a few issues later.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity7.jpg

Also, Thor wasn't knocked out. He was up on the same page, next panel.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-1.jpg

Hulk was shown helpless, and then ran away from the fight. In other words, he lost.

Originally posted by Larceny
Your being owned. You made a baseless claim with no proof and now you're paying the price.

Because he punched him in the air as the bomb launched? Keep clutching those straws buddy.

Warrior Madness? He began his transition into Warrior Madness shortly before he was knocked into the air. Claiming Hulk fought a Warrior Madness induced Thor is only increases the hilarity of your post.

Go through it blow for blow if you like, including the lightning strike. You'll end up with an inconclusive fight stopped only by the launching of a bomb. BTW, that bomb wouldn't have killed Thor.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/planetdestruction.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/planetdestruction2.jpg

The evidence is all there in the listed issues. The only thing you are rejecting it on is subjective perception, while exaggerating your own stance. I call a spade a spade. Do watch your grammar though. I am afraid you will make the mistake of being a pot which calls a kettle black again.

Because he became lucid, and said out loud in a speech bubble: "Thor! You have to get out of here.". Put two and two together.

Hence the word "arguably".

The same way being impaled would not have killed Hulk, and neither would a cave collapse stop him.

Hulk landed more blows. Simple as that. I would not trust you with math though, seeing as you obviously cannot count the number of wins Thor has, which as of now stands at zero. Maybe one, which is the one I gave him in my earlier post.

Originally posted by Larceny
You really gotta stop these outlandish claims. It may help with retaining a tad bit of credibility.

Thor doesn't have the PG when he fights Surfer.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS15.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS16.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS17.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/SilverS18.jpg

He doesn't get it until a few issues later.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsInfinity7.jpg

Also, Thor wasn't knocked out. He was up on the same page, next panel.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/3-1.jpg

Hulk was shown helpless, and then ran away from the fight. In other words, he lost.

None more outlandish that that being normal Thor. That is all that is needed to invalidate.

If you have any experience in perhaps MA practice or combat training, getting knocked-out does not equal to lying down on the mat for eternities all the time. Losing consciousness and regaining consciousness can be seperated by mere seconds. Thor was out. He regained consciousness. That counts as a loss per forum rules.

Stupid logic? Sure. I hate debating for hulk, but it's pretty sound according to your logical patterns and nuances.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Obviously, and you know it just as well as I do.

An interview of a writer who affirmed the existence of the Odin-power in Thor. It isn't speculation. It is a statement. That is the same reason interviews are carried out on directors and novel writers.

The business part of the fight was purely physical. I don't know how anyone can read it any other way.

I would not like to debate like you. Thank you very much for confirming that. I've provided the issues. The scans are just a flip away. It would not be an issue if you have the issues or have read them. Yup I am being thrashed. So says the person who claims that a group effort on hulk somehow equals to a Thor victory.

No. I have read all the comics that you have posted. I refer to the one which you call a stalemate, which Hulk leaves without a win. The journey into mystery comic has been discussed above by both of us.

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His statement doesn't matter, because it contradicts what was written and published in Marvel's book. Stated on panel, in big bold words clear enough for all to see.

Thor makes mention of the Odin Power being above them all.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorvseverybody5.jpg

The next page Strange confirms that Thor's connection to the Odin Power has been severed. It's mad evident by the loss of his abilities.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorvseverybody6.jpg

As Loki nullifies and removes the artifact that severed the connection Thor regains his abilities.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/page0203wn-1.jpg

If you've read and have knowledge of all the issues. Where did you come to the conclusion that Hulk has more wins over Thor?

Bill.

Originally posted by Larceny
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His statement doesn't matter, because it contradicts what was written and published in Marvel's book. Stated on panel, in big bold words clear enough for all to see.

Thor makes mention of the Odin Power being above them all.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorvseverybody5.jpg

The next page Strange confirms that Thor's connection to the Odin Power has been severed. It's mad evident by the loss of his abilities.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorvseverybody6.jpg

As Loki nullifies and removes the artifact that severed the connection Thor regains his abilities.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/page0203wn-1.jpg

If you've read and have knowledge of all the issues. Where did you come to the conclusion that Hulk has more wins over Thor?

Doesn't change the truth. Pot kettle black.

Of course it doesn't matter. The statement of the person who wrote the comic does not matter. I guess you should be part of the floor during an interview discussing the contents of a novel and scream at the author that anything that does not follow the novel to a T holds no weight.

It's funny. I've read all the issues and listed the discussable ones in an earlier post. Where do I get the knowledge that Hulk has more wins than Thor from? From abovementioned comics.

Originally posted by Ouallada
None more outlandish that that being normal Thor. That is all that is needed to invalidate.

If you have any experience in perhaps MA practice or combat training, getting knocked-out does not equal to lying down on the mat for eternities all the time. Losing consciousness and regaining consciousness can be seperated by mere seconds. Thor was out. He regained consciousness. That counts as a loss per forum rules.

Stupid logic? Sure. I hate debating for hulk, but it's pretty sound according to your logical patterns and nuances.

Who said it was normal Thor? We all know it's Thor in the self imposed state of Warrior Madness.

How do you know Thor was out? The comic didn't even show his face. All you see is Hulk cheap shotting Thor, Thor lays on the ground with his hand in the air, Mjolnir lands in his hand as it normally does, and Thor gets back and commences in owning Hulk.

You have nothing. Your clutching to nothing. You made a baseless claim, and are being owned for it. Admit you were wrong, and leave the debate with a little credibility.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Doesn't change the truth. Pot kettle black.

Of course it doesn't matter. The statement of the person who wrote the comic does not matter. I guess you should be part of the floor during an interview discussing the contents of a novel and scream at the author that anything that does not follow the novel to a T holds no weight.

It's funny. I've read all the issues and listed the discussable ones in an earlier post. Where do I get the knowledge that Hulk has more wins than Thor from? From abovementioned comics.

That the comic published has Thor without the Odin Power? 😕

You're correct, it doesn't. What's published is published, what's published is law. What's published is Thor killing Hulk without Mjolnir and with his connection to the Odin Power severed.

The above mentioned comics have been posted, and none have Hulk with a win.

Any more Hulk/Thor fights you need posted?

Originally posted by Larceny
Who said it was normal Thor? We all know it's Thor in the self imposed state of Warrior Madness.

How do you know Thor was out? The comic didn't even show his face. All you see is Hulk cheap shotting Thor, Thor lays on the ground with his hand in the air, Mjolnir lands in his hand as it normally does, and Thor gets back and commences in owning Hulk.

You have nothing. Your clutching to nothing. You made a baseless claim, and are being owned for it. Admit you were wrong, and leave the debate with a little credibility.

Then why count it as a win for Thor against SS, when it is evidently not WM Thor we are discussing?

"Abruptly, it's over." "Beaten beyond reason". It is only logical that a KO or TKO has been achieved.

Once again, grammar. Pot kettle black. I do love it when you sign every post with your claims of ownage. Your efforts would be better used on keeping your head above water, rather than focusing on how large your e-member is. As said, the issues have been provided. Just because you refuse to accept reality due to a cognitive predisposition to a character does not invalidate reality.

Originally posted by Ouallada
The evidence is all there in the listed issues. The only thing you are rejecting it on is subjective perception, while exaggerating your own stance. I call a spade a spade. Do watch your grammar though. I am afraid you will make the mistake of being a pot which calls a kettle black again.

Because he became lucid, and said out loud in a speech bubble: "Thor! You have to get out of here.". Put two and two together.

Hence the word "arguably".

The same way being impaled would not have killed Hulk, and neither would a cave collapse stop him.

Hulk landed more blows. Simple as that. I would not trust you with math though, seeing as you obviously cannot count the number of wins Thor has, which as of now stands at zero. Maybe one, which is the one I gave him in my earlier post.

Which have been posted in actual scans, displaying that what you claimed was a lie.

Correct my grammar, it's the only piece of this discussion you can cling to. You're arguments already been torn to shreds, you might as well discuss grammar.

And that equates to a win how?

But Hulk was shown on panel to be dead, and Thor was shown alive in the air. Big difference. 😕

Go ahead and do your play by play. Not that it matters as the fight was ended prematurely, thus left inconclusive. Meaning it's another fight that Hulk didn't win. Go Figure, you lied.

Originally posted by Larceny
That the comic published has Thor without the Odin Power? 😕

You're correct, it doesn't. What's published is published, what's published is law. What's published is Thor killing Hulk without Mjolnir and with his connection to the Odin Power severed.

The above mentioned comics have been posted, and none have Hulk with a win.

Any more Hulk/Thor fights you need posted?

Thor "had to have it".

Only according to you they don't. More blows landed, saved Thor from nuke. KO/TKO. Incapacitation after flinging opponent into mountain.

You:

King Thor.
Thor + other heroes/military
Unable to prove superiority = victory.
Ignoring front and last segments of a battle = victory.

I am also waiting on your proof that Hulk in the "reigning" was anywhere near actual Hulk levels, as it was a future arc, and hulk has survived much more than being impaled.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Then why count it as a win for Thor against SS, when it is evidently not WM Thor we are discussing?

"Abruptly, it's over." "Beaten beyond reason". It is only logical that a KO or TKO has been achieved.

Once again, grammar. Pot kettle black. I do love it when you sign every post with your claims of ownage. Your efforts would be better used on keeping your head above water, rather than focusing on how large your e-member is. As said, the issues have been provided. Just because you refuse to accept reality due to a cognitive predisposition to a character does not invalidate reality.

Because WM Thor is an enraged, blood lusted Thor. Making WM a possible mind set for Thor to retreat to mid battle, rendering it applicable for forum discussion.

Thor was up in the next panel after Hulk believed him to be incapacitated. Obviously the was prematurely thought to be over. 😐

You're talking about my misuse of "your"? It's fine, your retreating to grammar as a defense mechanism for the beating you've taken. 😄

Originally posted by Larceny
Which have been posted in actual scans, displaying that what you claimed was a lie.

Correct my grammar, it's the only piece of this discussion you can cling to. You're arguments already been torn to shreds, you might as well discuss grammar.

And that equates to a win how?

But Hulk was shown on panel to be dead, and Thor was shown alive in the air. Big difference. 😕

Go ahead and do your play by play. Not that it matters as the fight was ended prematurely, thus left inconclusive. Meaning it's another fight that Hulk didn't win. Go Figure, you lied.

Yep I lied. Posting scans and posting issues makes no difference if you have read them. I can understand why you were not able to tell the difference though.

I can't be bothered to correct grammar. You brought it up though. It's not really my fault that you are nowhere near as good as you think you are.

I said Thor arguably in WM, meaning if that was true, Hulk traded blows with a WM Thor, and landed more blows, dealing more damage. You said that it was not WM, I said that the caveat was "arguably". Hulk still landed more blows and dealt more damage. Focus on that instead.

I repeat. Hulk landed more blows and dealt more damage. I lied because I did not agree with you? Keep telling yourself that.

Originally posted by Larceny
Because WM Thor is an enraged, blood lusted Thor. Making WM a possible mind set for Thor to retreat to mid battle, rendering it applicable for forum discussion.

Thor was up in the next panel after Hulk believed him to be incapacitated. Obviously the was prematurely thought to be over. 😐

You're talking about my misuse of "your"? It's fine, your retreating to grammar as a defense mechanism for the beating you've taken. 😄

A distinctly low possibility. There is a huge difference between basing SS vs Thor on powersets, and basing the battle on their previous encounters, which were both heavy in context. Can Thor take a majority? Possibly, but it will not be due in any large part to what we've seen from previous encounters.

Knock-out = knock-out. Knock-out = victory as per forum rules. Stupid logic, but not any worse than what you've shown.

I'm simply educating you on the fact that people who live by the sword die by it. If you are going to insult another based on grammar, at least have some proficiency in the area.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Yep I lied.

I can't be bothered to correct grammar. You brought it up though. It's not really my fault that you are nowhere near as good as you think you are.

I said Thor arguably in WM, meaning if that was true, Hulk traded blows with a WM Thor, and landed more blows, dealing more damage. You said that it was not WM, I said that the caveat was "arguably". Hulk still landed more blows and dealt more damage. Focus on that instead.

I repeat. Hulk landed more blows and dealt more damage. I lied because I did not agree with you? Keep telling yourself that.

I know. 🙂

I never claimed my grammar was without error. Only that you should check your own before ill attempts at insulting one's intelligence.

The fight was a inconclusive stalemate. Neither character had the upper hand and the battle was ended prematurely due to the launching of the bomb. Clutch if you wish, but I you'll get nowhere.

He didn't. You know this, I know this. 🙂

Originally posted by Larceny
I know. 🙂

I never claimed my grammar was without error. Only that you should check your own before ill attempts at insulting one's intelligence.

The fight was a inconclusive stalemate. Neither character had the upper hand and the battle was ended prematurely due to the launching of the bomb. Clutch if you wish, but I you'll get nowhere.

He didn't. You know this, I know this. 🙂

Sure, quote out of context. Falls in line with the rest of your modus operandi.

Nope, but if you insult another based on it, please try not to feel too aggrieved if your own mistakes in that area get picked on. Also, please do not make that claim. It will surely fail.

More blows, more damage dealt, saved Thor from nuke. If this is "clutching", your Thor "wins" would have more logical holes in them than a chunk of bleu cheese. Oh, and grammar once again.

He did. I know this. You obviously don't.

Originally posted by Ouallada
A distinctly low possibility. There is a huge difference between basing SS vs Thor on powersets, and basing the battle on their previous encounters, which were both heavy in context. Can Thor take a majority? Possibly, but it will not be due in any large part to what we've seen from previous encounters.

Knock-out = knock-out. Knock-out = victory as per forum rules. Stupid logic, but not any worse than what you've shown.

I'm simply educating you on the fact that people who live by the sword die by it. If you are going to insult another based on grammar, at least have some proficiency in the area.

Ok.....

Thor wasn't knocked out. He got up, and continued owning Hulk.

Again, I never said my grammar was without error. In fact at 16 and a Jr, In high School I expect errors. My point was actually quite similar to yours. Live by the sword die by it. If you wish to insult my intelligence fine, however make sure you make no intellectual errors in the process.

Originally posted by Ouallada

More blows, more damage dealt, saved Thor from nuke. If this is "clutching", your Thor "wins" would have more logical holes in them than a chunk of bleu cheese. Oh, and grammar once again.

He did. I know this. You obviously don't.

Huuuhhhh, I guess I have to correct you on this as well. Although how you got to the conclusion that Hulk dealt more damage in a fight in which neither character was knocked out or even bleed is beyond me.

Originally posted by Larceny
Ok.....

Thor wasn't knocked out. He got up, and continued owning Hulk.

Again, I never said my grammar was without error. In fact at 16 and a Jr, In high School I expect errors. My point was actually quite similar to yours. Live by the sword die by it. If you wish to insult my intelligence fine, however make sure you make no intellectual errors in the process.

To be honest, I do not have a huge problem with Thor taking a majority over SS, even though I believe the opposite to be more likely. I viewed your other account's posts as level-headed, but just dislike your expounding of the previous battles.

If by creating rain to seperate the two, and making Hulk look more like a hero than him, fine, but NOTHING of note happened after the KO. I could quote the comic page once again, but I guess you would ignore it.

I did not question your intelligence. I questioned and still do question your application of it. Lack of intelligence =/= intellectual errors, at least not completely. For that portion of our debate, I simply questioned your inability to understand my saying that planetary level power is difficult to define.

If you have taken insult with anything, I don't mean it and I will not bring up grammar again.

Originally posted by Larceny
Huuuhhhh, I guess I have to correct you on this as well. Although how you got to the conclusion that Hulk dealt more damage in a fight in which neither character was knocked out or even bleed is beyond me.

Correct me on what?

I read every page, and hulk was in the ascendency. Thor was knocked out, as the quotes suggest and support. Of course, you could say that I support hulk blindly, but rest assured that Thor places much higher than hulk on my preference list. That was how I read it, and how many others read it, even though I speak only for myself.