do you believe movies games and music effect kids?
i didnt know where to put this so but w.t.h.
latley people believe video games movies and music alters a young childs mind . do you believe this can happen on a high level or none at all? personaly i dont believe anything like these 3 options can make a kid go wacko.
I don't think so. I think the person has to have issues to begin with. Most people aren't going to go out and kill someone because they saw it in a movie or they heard it in a song. Mostly when stuff like this happens, people just want to blame something other than the person. If someone actually *does* go out and do something stupid because of something like that, I think they probably already had problems to begin with.
Originally posted by T.M
No..I think video games, movies and such are an easy target for criticism, and blame when there is a killing or whatever. But I think I am right in saying that everytime a movie has been blamed it has been proven that there was no connection.
you heard of jack thomas? this guy is a bible thumper who believes kids will mimic game violence. he stated on gamehead last friday that his son plays milatary games. now the funny thing i find about that is this jacck thomas guy said hes fighting video game violence but if thats true he would target the milatary games as well! the guys a hypocrite
Re: do you believe movies games and music effect kids?
Originally posted by PiruBlood
latley people believe video games movies and music alters a young childs mind .
how and what kind of alterations?
Originally posted by PiruBlood
do you believe this can happen on a high level or none at all?
Stimuli does affect behaviour... I don't know what you mean by "high level", but the jury is not really out on this one.
Originally posted by PiruBlood
personaly i dont believe anything like these 3 options can make a kid go wacko.
well, interesting, define wacko and you might be correct.
Re: Re: do you believe movies games and music effect kids?
Originally posted by inimalist
how and what kind of alterations?Stimuli does affect behaviour... I don't know what you mean by "high level", but the jury is not really out on this one.
well, interesting, define wacko and you might be correct.
my term for wacko is kids get violent from alot of things. but seriously if a 10 year old plays grand theft auto then shoots someone to me is nuts. but i dont believe that will happen. if you look at the collombine massacre those kids who shot up the school were provoked. the cops say they imitated from a movie called natural born killers. even marylin manson was getting attacked by the media because those numb nuts thought one of his songs sent a subliminal message to his fans
Originally posted by SelphieT
Unless the kid has a problem with identifying reality from fiction, then yes.But otherwise "normal" people, no.
my cousin who is chicago p.d said the most commenly used excuse in a courtroom for a crime now is i played a violent game and it influenced me. now that tells me if someone can say that then they just dont wanna admit they did something wrong.
Originally posted by Bardock42
They likely do influence Children. They do influence adults too afterall. In what way is probably hard to predict though.
I think they influence society in making people in general less sensitive to violence. If you're constantly seeing it then it isn't going to bother you as much.
My boyfriend was actually playing Manhunt 2 the other day (which, if you don't know is supposedly a very violent video game which is banned in certain countries) and I found myself saying "this was banned? it's not that violent" and "that's it?" while watching him play it.
But I still don't think it will make someone go out and kill someone.
Re: do you believe movies games and music effect kids?
Originally posted by PiruBlood
Latley people believe video games movies and music alters a young childs mind . do you believe this can happen on a high level or none at all? personaly i dont believe anything like these 3 options can make a kid go wacko.
No. Movies, videos games; the media are not to blame nor are they cause. They can be an issues that may have a slight influence but by and large, they're not the cause.
Originally posted by PiruBlood
my cousin who is chicago p.d said the most commenly used excuse in a courtroom for a crime now is i played a violent game and it influenced me. now that tells me if someone can say that then they just dont wanna admit they did something wrong.
Yeah, you can tell they just want to blame it on something that other people enjoy, so they can act all innocent.
Originally posted by PiruBlood
you heard of jack thomas? this guy is a bible thumper who believes kids will mimic game violence. he stated on gamehead last friday that his son plays milatary games. now the funny thing i find about that is this jacck thomas guy said hes fighting video game violence but if thats true he would target the milatary games as well! the guys a hypocrite
you mean Jack Thompson ?
If you do then yes I have heard of him.. who hasn't the guy wont shut up.
music, TV, movies and even written words can have affects on the behaviour of children and adults. Long term exposure can create long term behavioural patterns and prime behavioural schema. The human brain is NOT EFFECTIVE at distinguishing between fantasy and reality.
However, it seems to be assumed that this means "because I play GTA I am going to kill someone". Which it doesn't. Nor does it support playing games as a defense for violent crime.
However, without a doubt, violent media in any form does enhance arousal and aggression. A very clear example of this is long term exposure to pornography and misogynistic behaviour. Men who watch lots of porn are more likely to objectify women over those who do not.
The most important thing to keep in mind with all this is that, if one is conscious of the media they consume, is parented well, and receives some education regarding media, the influencing effects of media are almost completely eliminated.
Re: do you believe movies games and music effect kids?
Originally posted by PiruBlood
i didnt know where to put this so but w.t.h.latley people believe video games movies and music alters a young childs mind . do you believe this can happen on a high level or none at all? personaly i dont believe anything like these 3 options can make a kid go wacko.
I believe the entertainment industry can influence a person greatly. I dont believe they inspire physical violence though.
We've had threads on this before.
But no, I do not believe in the least that games, movies, etc. are responsible for people being violent. There can be some effect, but generally this is if the person is already pre-disposed to violence, cannot differentiate between fantasy and reality, or otherwise has issues. But really? Not a single credible study has shown any real link. Seriously, in just about every case where someone has tried to blame violent games or music or movies on someone going nuts, if you look at that person's background, it's pretty clear they weren't right in the head to begin with.
And Jack Thompson is a joke. I don't think anyone takes him seriously anymore because he always comes off as such an idiot. He generally has no idea what he's talking about, and if I remember correctly, he was suspended from practicing law and ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation. The guy is nuts.
It's all just scapegoating. People don't want to deal with personal responsibility, so they try and pin the blame on anything convenient that they can.
Originally posted by Lana
We've had threads on this before.But no, I do not believe in the least that games, movies, etc. are responsible for people being violent. There can be some effect, but generally this is if the person is already pre-disposed to violence, cannot differentiate between fantasy and reality, or otherwise has issues. But really? Not a single credible study has shown any real link. Seriously, in just about every case where someone has tried to blame violent games or music or movies on someone going nuts, if you look at that person's background, it's pretty clear they weren't right in the head to begin with.
And Jack Thompson is a joke. I don't think anyone takes him seriously anymore because he always comes off as such an idiot. He generally has no idea what he's talking about, and if I remember correctly, he was suspended from practicing law and ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation. The guy is nuts.
It's all just scapegoating. People don't want to deal with personal responsibility, so they try and pin the blame on anything convenient that they can.
👆 Well said Lana.
Originally posted by Lana
Not a single credible study has shown any real link.
there is a very large body of evidence showing the link
I even wrote a topic about a study that found religious text was a prime for aggression:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=450796&highlight=god+sanctions+killing
There is a recent report that shows a publication bias toward reporting evidence that confirms the media hypothesis (relating specifically to video games), so it is still debatable how much of an effect the media might have. However, media as a prime for aggression and later behavioural issues is very well supported in scientific literature.
well you have to look at the whole debate from the opposite end as well...you have to ask whether music, films etc can have a positive influence of a persons behaviour
put this in the context of your own experiences...does a film ever make you feel some kind of emotion...the same question regarding music...the answer in most cases is probably yes...has a piece of art, be it music, film or whatever...ever inspired you to take action on some sort of social issue...in some cases this would be yes also
so people who automatically deny that these things can also have a negative effect are quite possibley wrong
although saying that...in most most extreme cases there is almost always an underlying mental health issue that causes the person involved to commit whatever act they then try and blame on whatever medium it was
of course it takes too much time, effort and probably money to investigate these issues so society likes to adopt a quick blame, problem solved, move on mentallity that ultimately benefits nobody