Originally posted by willRules
The right reason? So when a murderer kills it's wrong, but when Punisher does it, it's right?Which is it? Is murder right or wrong?
If you are gonna respond with a statement such as "well it depends on the circumstances" or "there are cases when murder is right and wrong" then I would personally consider this a very, very perverse moral code 🙂
I mean that in the nicest way possible 😄
I still count one murderer (Punisher) going around killing people, and that's one too many 🙂 Does that mean soemone should kill him too?
the people the punisher has killed shouldn't even be considered "human." they're disgusting creatures and they had no right to walk around killing and desecrating everywhere they went and not being touched by the law.
talking about it or "raising awareness" doesn't get the job done. Punisher gets it done.
the Police would be grateful for him because he takes care of the ones he can't reach.
heres some examples of "humans" that he's killed:
A big Russian known as "the man of stone" slaughtered many villages and at one point threw a new born BABY and shot it in mid-air.
another one was a trafficker that captured women from disastor-struck regions and had them raped, tortured and killed if they didn't do their jobs. Some of these girls were only 10 years old!
What's sad is that traffickers and crimelords exist in our world. If there was a Punisher, would you still condemn him for killing these low-lifes?
What if they couldn't be put on trial cuz there's not enough evidence or witnesses are too scared? Would we just let them continue to walk the streets and let them traffic more women?!?
i don't think so.
Originally posted by Morridini
Forced slave labor is a much better solution then death penalty, why waste electricity or needles on human garbage? Rather get them to work for you and do something good.
with death penalty, i could care either way. on One hand, they get killed, but on the other hand, they can feel miserable for the rest of their lives in prison.
Originally posted by willRules
The right reason? So when a murderer kills it's wrong, but when Punisher does it, it's right?Which is it? Is murder right or wrong?
If you are gonna respond with a statement such as "well it depends on the circumstances" or "there are cases when murder is right and wrong" then I would personally consider this a very, very perverse moral code 🙂
I mean that in the nicest way possible 😄
I still count one murderer (Punisher) going around killing people, and that's one too many 🙂 Does that mean soemone should kill him too?
I disagree - a code such as you've described (one dependent upon the circumstances) is simply a relative one. Something that's entirely accurate, because as (Digi? I think?) someone pointed out, there are scenarios in which absolutely everyone would commit the murder and feel justified in doing so.
Moral relativism is a very real thing and a very accurate thing, in my opinion. The absolutism you're trying to bring about is just...too rigid, too, well, absolute.
Originally posted by TheGame17
the people the punisher has killed shouldn't even be considered "human." they're disgusting creatures and they had no right to walk around killing and desecrating everywhere they went and not being touched by the law.
talking about it or "raising awareness" doesn't get the job done. Punisher gets it done.
the Police would be grateful for him because he takes care of the ones he can't reach.heres some examples of "humans" that he's killed:
A big Russian known as "the man of stone" slaughtered many villages and at one point threw a new born BABY and shot it in mid-air.another one was a trafficker that captured women from disastor-struck regions and had them raped, tortured and killed if they didn't do their jobs. Some of these girls were only 10 years old!
What's sad is that traffickers and crimelords exist in our world. If there was a Punisher, would you still condemn him for killing these low-lifes?
What if they couldn't be put on trial cuz there's not enough evidence or witnesses are too scared? Would we just let them continue to walk the streets and let them traffic more women?!?i don't think so.
Lets say Punisher is about to kill someone for killing another, shouldn't someone kill the Punisher for succumbing to the very thing he is the Punisher for? Essentially Punisher has become guilty of the crimes he punishes people for. A better name for the Punisher would be the Hypocrite ✅
Originally posted by Soljer
I disagree - a code such as you've described (one dependent upon the circumstances) is simply a relative one. Something that's entirely accurate, because as (Digi? I think?) someone pointed out, there are scenarios in which absolutely everyone would commit the murder and feel justified in doing so.Moral relativism is a very real thing and a very accurate thing, in my opinion. The absolutism you're trying to bring about is just...too rigid, too, well, absolute.
Well that's a fair point but isn't that argument based on the opinion that a moral code is relative and structured purely on opinion and that there isn't some sort of higher moral code separate to our opinions of what that code actually is.
I think we will both be pleasantly surprised that this essentially comes down to "Well you believe this/I believe that...." 😄
Originally posted by willRules
Lets say Punisher is about to kill someone for killing another, shouldn't someone kill the Punisher for succumbing to the very thing he is the Punisher for? Essentially Punisher has become guilty of the crimes he punishes people for. A better name for the Punisher would be the Hypocrite ✅
What a load of crap.
Originally posted by willRules
Lets say Punisher is about to kill someone for killing another, shouldn't someone kill the Punisher for succumbing to the very thing he is the Punisher for? Essentially Punisher has become guilty of the crimes he punishes people for. A better name for the Punisher would be the Hypocrite ✅Well that's a fair point but isn't that argument based on the opinion that a moral code is relative and structured purely on opinion and that there isn't some sort of higher moral code separate to our opinions of what that code actually is.
I think we will both be pleasantly surprised that this essentially comes down to "Well you believe this/I believe that...." 😄
soo..............should a soldier be put to death because he killed someone in battle?
Originally posted by Alfheim
What a load of crap.
As always, very supportive comments. I can tell you agree with my opinion 😉
Originally posted by TheGame17
soo..............should a soldier be put to death because he killed someone in battle?
I personally don't think he should. I don't think anyone should be put to death, that's the whole point. 🙂
Originally posted by willRulesWell that's a fair point but isn't that argument based on the opinion that a moral code is relative and structured purely on opinion and that there isn't some sort of higher moral code separate to our opinions of what that code actually is.
I think we will both be pleasantly surprised that this essentially comes down to "Well you believe this/I believe that...." 😄
Actually, that wouldn't surprise me in the least. Almost every argument about ethics comes down to those exact sentences.
However, your belief (or taken stance, in the case that you're simply playing the devil's advocate) has very little to stand on. What, exactly, can point us toward an absolute codified moral structuring?
Everything that we take for granted as 'moral' or 'good' can be traced to the influences around us - thus making our beliefs relative to our experiences. No?