Champion and Runner vs Superman Prime

Started by Galan0076 pages

Originally posted by tkitna
As for making somebody a living statue, who's to say the Runner couldnt? The Runners an Elder of the Universe. The ways he could beat prime are countless. Maybe, he'd just absorb the energy within him. Hell, he could probably take him physically.
= a completely baseless/unsubstantiated rant. srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
Other than A-B-C logic, [which we have already solidified as a faulty first line of debate] --

Well no what you have established is that we cant say for sure that Glads was moving at the speed of nano-seconds. Does that mean that it applies to the Champion catching the runner.

Originally posted by Galan007

there is pretty much no real evidence supporting your claim that Champion can react at Runner-esque speeds.

imo. 🙂

Well no logically if he can punk Mantis with ease he should be able to possibly keep up with The Runner. Its still evidence.

Originally posted by Galan007
= a completely baseless/unsubstantiated rant. srsly

Is it? Has the Silver Surfer not given life or manipulated matter? How does the Surfer do these things? Oh, he has the power cosmic. Oh wait, so does the Runner, but to a greater effect.

Next.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well no what you have established is that we cant say for sure that Glads was moving at the speed of nano-seconds. Does that mean that it applies to the Champion catching the runner.

Well no logically if he can punk Mantis with ease he should be able to possibly keep up with The Runner. Its still evidence.

This is going in circles already -- as once again my response to this would have been in regards to how faulty debating with A-B-C logic alone, really is.

Anyhow,
I'm stopping here. 🙂

Originally posted by tkitna
Is it? Has the Silver Surfer not given life or manipulated matter? How does the Surfer do these things? Oh, he has the power cosmic. Oh wait, so does the Runner, but to a greater effect.

Next.

Then surely it would be easy for you to provide scans, or at least issue numbers of Runner accomplishing any of the aforementioned feats you listed, right? 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
This is going in circles already -- as my response to this would have been in regards to how faulty debating with A-B-C logic alone, really is.

Anyhow,
I'm stopping here. 🙂

I knew you were gonna do that. It would have been nice if you actually explained why I cant use the Runner example. Hey maybe your right but at laest explain to me why the logic is faulty instead of starting a debate and stopping half way through.

Originally posted by Galan007
Then surely it would be easy for you to provide scans, or at least issue numbers of Runner accomplishing any of the aforementioned feats you listed, right? 🙂

Yeah but he just explained to you his logic of why he could do it. Just because its not in a comicbook doesnt mean he cant do it.

💃

I love watching Galan own damn near an entire thread. 🙂.

Originally posted by Galan007
Then surely it would be easy for you to provide scans, or at least issue numbers of Runner accomplishing any of the aforementioned feats you listed, right? 🙂

Surely scans and issue numbers of the Runner defeating said Surfer should be suficient enough for you, shouldnt it? 🙂

Originally posted by Alfheim
I knew you were gonna do that. It would have been nice if you actually explained why I cant use the Runner example. Hey maybe your right but at laest explain to me why the logic is faulty instead of starting a debate and stopping half way through.
I don't think there's a need for me to explain why A-B-C logic is faulty..

Maybe you could debate with someone else about that? 🙂

Originally posted by Soljer
💃

I love watching Galan own damn near an entire thread. 🙂.

Then you'll need to look elsewhere.

Originally posted by Soljer
💃

I love watching Galan own damn near an entire thread. 🙂.

bashful

Originally posted by tkitna
Surely scans and issue numbers of the Runner defeating said Surfer should be suficient enough for you, shouldnt it? 🙂
These are the feats in question:
Originally posted by tkitna
As for making somebody a living statue, who's to say the Runner couldnt? The Runners an Elder of the Universe. The ways he could beat prime are countless. Maybe, he'd just absorb the energy within him. Hell, he could probably take him physically.
So those are the feats I'd like to see scans of, please. 🙂

Originally posted by tkitna
Then you'll need to look elsewhere.

Becuz you've done so much pwning in this thread? Does self pwning count?

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think there's a need for me to explain why A-B-C logic is faulty..

Maybe you could debate with someone else about that? 🙂

Well ABC logic can sometimes be contradictory but there are no other feats to contradict that he cant possibly keep up with Runner-esque speed. The feat still stands and is valid.

Hell if I gave an example of Wolverine being able to react to speed-demon we just call it ABC logic and leave it at that?

Originally posted by tkitna
Then you'll need to look elsewhere.

So far, this one's doing fine.

Sure, there are a couple posts from Nvr getting in the way, but I can just skip those. 🙂.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well ABC logic can sometimes be contradictory but there are no other feats to contradict that he cant possibly keep up with Runner-esque speed. The feat still stands and is valid.

Hell if I gave an example of Wolverine being able to react to speed-demon we just call it ABC logic and leave it at that?

Here,
I fixed my original post:
Originally posted by Galan007
What you're basically saying is,
because Champ hit Mantis, and Mantis 'tripped-up' Runner -- Champion can clearly move react at Runner-esque speeds.

Better now, yes? 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Here,
I fixed my original post:

Better now, yes? 🙂

Yeah and? It proves that he was a better MA. If hes a better MA its not a stretch to say that he could deal with faster opponents than her. 😕

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah and? It proves that he was a better MA. 😕
My God,
There's just no pleasing you. ohhh

Originally posted by Galan007
bashful

These are the feats in question:

Why are these feats in question? The Surfer and all his glorious feats lost easily to a superiour being (The Runner). That in itself should answer any questions you have.

Originally posted by tkitna
Why are these feats in question? The Surfer and all his glorious feats lost easily to a superiour being (The Runner). That in itself should answer any questions you have.
Okay.

So even though Runner never did anything close to absorbing a being's complete power, or physically dominating a character on Prime's level, or petrifying someone via kinetic-energy steal -- we'll just say he can, because..... well........ He DID beat Surfer, afterall.

Your logic pwns! dur

Originally posted by Galan007
My God,
There's just no pleasing you. ohhh

Whats your point? Hell if somebody beats Cap its not a stretch to say that this MA is better than Cap, sometimes you have feats that contradict this ie Taskmaster owning Shin and then getting owned by DD. But Champs powerset and other feats indicate thats how a fight between her should have went.

For startes hes owned Namor, Namor is an MA expert and Namor had to train to get even get in the ring with him. Sure Namor doesnt move at FTL speeds but he can speedblitz and is goddamn fast.