Batman Beyond and Batman 1 Million vs YOUR Team!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont need scans.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont think the Leader has made a time distortion device but we know from his powerset that it is within his capability.

Unless Bats has done something like this in 1 weeks time, I'm not just going to assume he can.

That would be ridiculous..... Ridiculous and faulty. 🙂

Originally posted by Alfheim
Thats like saying Thor cant lift the eiffel tower because ther are no scans of him doing it. 🙂

Lifting an object, is completely different than creating a device to nullify AC's time/reality distortion powers. srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
For this, you do. 🙂

I don't care about the Leader....

Unless Bats has done something like this in 1 weeks time, I'm not just going to assume he can.

That would be ridiculous..... Ridiculous and faulty. 🙂

It's not like that at all.

Lifting an object, is completely different than creating a device to nullify AC's time/reality distortion powers. srsly

You missed the point. What does intelligence enable you to do? It enables you to create high-tech devices. What does strength enable you to it enables you to lift heavy objects. What you are saying is that just because you havent seen a character do something that means they cant do it. My point is look at the powerset of the character look at his intellignce feats and deduce what he is capable from there.

Now as for Batman I dont think hes created a time distortion device, but he does have counter measures for Flash. I could be wrong but I think there are instances of Flash affecting time. If Batman could use tech to beat Flash a Batman 1Million who is even more intelligent and has more advanced tech can create a device that distort time.

Your logic is faulty, they havent done it means they cant do it. Im saying look at their feats and deduce. 🙂

Originally posted by Alfheim
You missed the point. What does intelligence enable you to do? It enables you to create high-tech devices. What does strength enable you to it enables you to lift heavy objects. What you are saying is that just because you havent seen a character do something that means they cant do it. My point is look at the powerset of the character look at his intellignce feats and deduce what he is capable from there.

Now as for Batman I dont think hes created a time distortion device, but he does have counter measures for Flash. I could be wrong but I think there are instances of Flash affecting time. If Batman could use tech to beat Flash a Batman 1Million who is even more intelligent and has more advanced tech can create a device that distort time.

Like I've said before,
Speculation is all fine and dandy, but to use it as the main basis behind your posts is, meh.

We needn't go any further on this subject, however. 🙂

Originally posted by Alfheim
Your logic is faulty, they havent done it means they cant do it. Im saying look at their feats and deduce. 🙂

Exactly. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
So your whole argument is based on what you think these characters should be able to do..... Even though you have little to no evidence behind you? Okay then. 🙂

Like I've said before,
Speculation is all fine and dandy, but to use it as the main basis behind your posts is, meh.

We needn't go any further on this subject, however. 🙂

Who's basing their argument on established feats? -- and who's basing their argument on personal opinion?

Exactly. 🙂

Right so what you're telling me is that if it doesnt happen on panel then they cant do it?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Right so what you're telling me is that if it doesnt happen on panel then they cant do it?

Originally posted by Galan007
In a case where your speculating that Batman can create a device in one week, which is capable of nullifying AC's time/reality manip powers -- that's exactly what I'm telling you. 🙂

Batman already has countermeasures to beat Flash. Flash has the power to affect time. Batman 1Million has even more advanced tech so it not a stretch to say that they can come up with a solution if they have the tech available already.

If they already have tech related to time travel then its not pure speculation. The tech that is used to counter the speed force can be applied to time distortion. 🙂

Originally posted by Alfheim
Batman already has countermeasures to beat Flash. Flash has the power to affect time. Batman 1Million has even more advanced tech so it not a stretch to say that they can come up with a solution if they have the tech available already.

If they already have tech related to time travel then its not pure speculation.

Anyhow,
No more speculatory debating for me.

AC ftw. 🙂

Originally posted by Alfheim
Your logic is faulty, they havent done it means they cant do it. Im saying look at their feats and deduce. 🙂

I'm pretty sure that's inductive reasoning which is partially flawed by it's very nature.

Originally posted by Galan007
Flash doesn't mainpulate local time/reality in the same fashion as AC -- so it's not realted in the same fashion.

Ok its different therefore the tech cant be applied to AC. Oh I know I have a forcefield that protects me from class 100 punches but without a doubt wont protect me from a kinetic blast because...its different. Maybe not but since they get basic knowledge as well its not pure speculation. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Anyhow,
No more speculatory debating for me.

AC ftw. 🙂

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm pretty sure that's inductive reasoning which is partially flawed by it's very nature.

Has Thor lifted the eiffel tower? No, but looking at his feats do you think he can do it. Yes you can.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Has Thor lifted the eiffel tower? No, but looking at his feats do you think he can do it. Yes you can.

Because to do his high level feats he is required to have the strength needed to do that.

Building technology is multidisciplinary so being able to make one thing doesn't make you able to make something else. The Egyptians built pyramids but never developed the internal combustion engine.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

Building technology is multidisciplinary so being able to make one thing doesn't make you able to make something else.

That why I said look at the feats. Spiderman is an expert at Chemistry and probably could not build a time machine, genuises at physics most lkely could.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

The Egyptians built pyramids but never developed the internal combustion engine.

Batman already has tech to counter the speed force. The speedforce has the ability to affect time. Batman 1million is more intelligent than Batman and has more advanced tech. They get basic knowledge its not pure speculation to say that they can build a time distortion device in a week. Saying Spiderman could is.

Originally posted by Alfheim
That why I said look at the feats. Spiderman is an expert at Chemistry and probably could not build a time machine, genuises at physics most lkely could.

How many times has Batman built an object from scratch that can alter the flow of time?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Batman already has tech to counter the speed force. The speedforce has the ability to affect time.

When did he counter the Speedforce? And did he use it to effect the time distorting aspects of the Speedforce?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How many times has Batman built an object from scratch that can alter the flow of time?

When did he counter the Speedforce? And did he use it to effect the time distorting aspects of the Speedforce?

Alf's not saying he has built said tech -- he's saying that he should be able to do so, and is using that opinion as the basis behind his posts. srsly

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How many times has Batman built an object from scratch that can alter the flow of time?

Batman has stated on panel that he has created countermeasures to beat the Flash. He also talks about the vibrational qualities the speedforce so he knows how it works.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

When did he counter the Speedforce? And did he use it to effect the time distorting aspects of the Speedforce?

As far as I know he hasnt actually done this. Ras Ghul used his countermeasures to beat the JLA but I dont know exactly how.

So what you're telling me is that just because he hasnt done it that he cant do it? We can deduce from this info that Batman could build tech to affect time distortion.

1. Becuase he already has tech that can affect the speedforce and he knows how it works.
2. Batman 1Million has even more advanced tech and is more intelligent.
3. Look at his track record, Batman tends to spot on. The chances are that if he used the tech it would work.

We dont know for certain wether it will work but its not a stretch. There no point in telling me just because we are not certain that we cant deduce that he can do this. Programmers implement programs everyday into systems with and they are not ceratin wether they are going to work but they analyse the variable and decide that the possibilities indicate that there is a good chance that it will work...and thats what ive done.

Originally posted by Galan007

Alf's not saying he has built said tech -- he's saying that he should be able to do so, and is using that opinion as the basis behind his posts. srsly

No Batman has already built countermeasures for the speedforce. 😐
I have a basis for my argument and its not pure speculation. As I said before people build tech that has never been built before, just because they havent built it doesnt mean its not going to work. Using your argument nobody would build anything because since they havnet used the tech it wont work.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Batman has stated on panel that he has created countermeasures to beat the Flash. He also talks about the vibrational qualities the speedforce so he knows how it works.

I know how a gun works. I don't think I'd try to build an antigun ray though.

Originally posted by Alfheim
As far as I know he hasnt actually done this.

Then, with all due respect, your argument is really really really stupid.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ras Ghul used his countermeasures to beat the JLA but I dont know exactly how.

The Speedforce has never been part of the JLA.

Flash was taken out by tricking him into being shot with a darrt that caused massive seizures. It took advantage of his hyperfast thoughts to prevent him from countering it (ie the seizures were just as fast as him so he had no respite despite his speed.

Originally posted by Alfheim
So what you're telling me is that just because he hasnt done it that he cant do it?

Well since you have no instance he him doing that or anything really similar . . .

Originally posted by Alfheim
1. Becuase he already has tech that can affect the speedforce and he knows how it works.
2. Batman 1Million has even more advanced tech and is more intelligent.
3. Look at his track record, Batman tends to spot on. The chances are that if he used the tech it would work.

Point three is the only one with any real validity.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No Batman has already built countermeasures for the speedforce. 😐
I have a basis for my argument and its not pure speculation.

Those statements seem completely contradictory.

Originally posted by Galan007
😈

It's not my fault AC is one of the characters I'm allowed to pick. 😛

Originally posted by Hitman911
They would find a way because they're that good!! 😄

Originally posted by Galan007
lulz.