Originally posted by Sol Valentine
Oh. God I'm confused, can you help?
Let us see if we can make this easy for you 🙂
As I got it from you guys, you have devided the characters into different versions. This is how I would devide it:
Human Arthas Pre-Corruption (Paladin)
Human Arthas Post-Corruption (Death Knight)
Human Arthas Post-Fusion (Lich King)
Orc Ner'Zhul Pre-Pact (Shaman)
Orc Ner'Zhul Post-Pact (Weakling)
Undead Ner'Zhul Post-Draenor (Spirit of Lich King)
Human Ner'Zhul Post-Fusion (Lich King)
Lich King (Fusion between Post-Corruption Arthas and Post-Betrayal Ner'Zhul)
Post-Fusion Arthas is Post-Fusion Ner'Zhul. The two are one at that point.
There you have the point where Post-Corruption Arthas and Post-Draenor Ner'Zhul becomes Lich King.
To add a few notes:
Pact:The pact that I mention with Ner'Zhul is an allegiance he swear to the Man'ari Kil'Jaeden. When he swear allegiance to Kil'Jaeden, the spirits slowly abandons him and he no longer carry shaman powers. Before that, he was a mighty shaman and a wise leader. After the pact, slowly was he eluded by the wisdom and beauty of Kil'Jaeden and in a way, lead the orc race to eternal corruption and sins.
Post-Draenor: When Ner'Zhul finally caught the courage to flee Kil'Jaedens grasp along with a band of soldiers from the orcs, a portal to another world was summoned trough a number of components. However, he lacked one component and the spell took a wrong turn. The planet was torn into pieces and Outlands was created out of what once was the beautiful planet Draenor.
When he still dashed trough the portal, Kil'Jaeden caught him on the other side. He promised to serve Kil'Jaeden again and he was turned into the spirit of Lich King.
A powerful being that would control the dead of Azeroth. Together with a runeblade and Lich equipment, his 'soul' was locked in a frozen imprisonment.
Fusion: Trough a strong force of magic, spirit of Lich King (Former Ner'Zhul) gave all his power to a mighty push. He launched his sword out of the frozen prison, across the world and onto another continent. His sword was picked up by Arthas, who slowly started becoming corrupted.
The video that I posted is the final part of the story. The part where Post-Corruption Arthas and Post-Draenor Ner'Zhul fused into Lich King.
A merciless being that hates all life.
(However, speculations says that if he knew that Thrall was the heir of Durotan, he might trough his unholy assault in Azeroth have spared the Frostwolf Clan that Thrall is the leader of. Durotan was one of the few people that Ner'Zhul respected in the end and one of the few people tha respected Ner'Zhul)
I think he was insane. He slayed the peasants at Stratholme when they were very much alive. He disbanded the Knights of the Silverhand. He slayed the mercenaries because he thought they destroyed his ships. He was blinded by his lust for Frostmourne and did not care when Muradin was slain. He left a mere captain to defend the camp against Mal'Ganis troops. He ignored warnings that was given to him by The Guardian of Frostmourne, Medivh and even Mal'Ganis.
I do not consider him sane 🙂
Originally posted by Fuddle
I think he was insane. He slayed the peasants at Stratholme when they were very much alive. He disbanded the Knights of the Silverhand. He slayed the mercenaries because he thought they destroyed his ships. He was blinded by his lust for Frostmourne and did not care when Muradin was slain. He left a mere captain to defend the camp against Mal'Ganis troops. He ignored warnings that was given to him by The Guardian of Frostmourne, Medivh and even Mal'Ganis.I do not consider him sane 🙂
Yeah but i mean, about stratholme, he either killed them, or killed them as zombies who fought back....
His actions where brutal and reckless but i myself wouldn't consider him insane
Originally posted by Fuddle
We start with the top obvious. This is not in chronological order:- Aman'Thul
- Eonar
- Norgannon
- Golganneth
- Khaz'goroth (Had to look his name up. I always forget it 😮)
- Sargeras
- Aggramar
- Old God
- Old God
- Old God
- Old God
- Old God
- Malygos
- Neltharion
- Nozdormu
- Aegwynn
- Ragnaros
- Therazane
- Al'Akir
- Neptulon
- Kil'Jaeden
- ScavellWith the ones that I consider more or less obvious out of the way, I link the likely but uncertain ones.
- Cenarius
- Archimonde
- Ysera
- Alexstrazsa
- "Ancient Evil"
- Hakkar
- Medivh
- K'ure
- MephistrothI had to look a couple of the names up. My mind is not talented enough to keep such a high number of character names in memory for a longer time 😛
I disagree a bit with you fuddle mainly in the pantheon rank where Sargares should be as high as his brother IMO.
The the aspects powerful surely but more powerful then Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde... I find that unlikely.
Also if we go into the Aspects section then Nozdormu is the highest ranking of the aspects if Deathwing doesn't have the demon soul. Reason because his power comes directly from High Father.
Also Aegwynn as powerful as she was she wasn't more powerful then her Son, also in Northren she had assistance from the Blue Dragons in driving the demons back...
The Elements... current levels ore pre level???
Originally posted by Fuddle
Arthas was driven insane by revenge.He became corrupted when he lifted the sword.
He was driven mad with the intention to save his people from the Scrouge. (clip when he picked up Frostmourne)
He became corrupted after he had killed The dreadlord which Name I cannot remember...
Originally posted by Utrigita
He was driven mad with the intention to save his people from the Scrouge. (clip when he picked up Frostmourne)He became corrupted after he had killed The dreadlord which Name I cannot remember...
it was malganis
and i agree with what utriga says, Sargerus is up with Aman'thul and the part where theres aspects above Killy and Archi....
Lich King i disagree however is not below aspects, i think thats highly unlikely, although they have powers from the titans, it was only a small amount from all of them, not like it was the whole thing
Originally posted by Burning thought
pfff not insane, quite sane tbh, they were basically becoming Zombies half the time....what did you expect them to do? turn into tortuous undead corpses
Follow the moral and rules that applied to the Paladin order. He not only defied and disapproved Uther's suggestion, but he disbanded the entire Silver Hand.
By slaying the peasants he violated multiple things in the paladin code.
The scenario in warcraft is basically:
Who kills the most innocent people in shortest time
Originally posted by Utrigita
I disagree a bit with you fuddle mainly in the pantheon rank where Sargares should be as high as his brother IMO.The the aspects powerful surely but more powerful then Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde... I find that unlikely.
Also if we go into the Aspects section then Nozdormu is the highest ranking of the aspects if Deathwing doesn't have the demon soul. Reason because his power comes directly from High Father.
Also Aegwynn as powerful as she was she wasn't more powerful then her Son, also in Northren she had assistance from the Blue Dragons in driving the demons back...
The Elements... current levels ore pre level???
I said that they were NOT in chronological order. They are not listed according to strength. I only listed some of those I believe above Lich King.
Originally posted by Fuddle
Who kills the most innocent people in shortest time
not really, they would of all died anyway....
Arthas simply killed them in a far nicer way, by his sword is better than them becoming monstrous zombies
were they not already poisoned? didnt they turn into zombies after you released them from teh houses
Originally posted by Fuddle
I said that they were NOT in chronological order. They are not listed according to strength. I only listed some of those I believe above Lich King.
Not in Chronological order??? what does time have to do with the ranking???
okay forget it saw you post a bit above
also A thing I find strange is that you added Mephistroth current lord of the Natherazim I would have found Tichodrius a far more interesting choice