Originally posted by carver9
Because I believe that the martian could bfr him to get some wins and I know that wasnt black bolt but that still doesnt change the fact that a black hole was being created during there fight and people from new york was seeing a fight that was taking place on the moon. (I love black bolt also and I consider him highly underrated on the forum).
There was no black hole created during their fight.
And you can't prove it.
Originally posted by carver9wut
Because I believe that the martian could bfr him to get some wins and I know that wasnt black bolt but that still doesnt change the fact that a black hole was being created during there fight and people from new york was seeing a fight that was taking place on the moon. (I love black bolt also and I consider him highly underrated on the forum).
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
There was no black hole created during their fight.And you can't prove it.
It might wasnt a black hole but its more than anything that mm could put out.
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6599/untitledscanned0116bm5.jpg
Originally posted by carver9
It might wasnt a black hole but its more than anything that mm could put out.http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6599/untitledscanned0116bm5.jpg
How is it a black hole?
And clearly it isn't more than MM can output seeing as it did less damage than Cyclops' eyebeams.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
How is it a black hole?And clearly it isn't more than MM can output seeing as it did less damage than Cyclops' eyebeams.
What are you talking about; they are fighting on the moon and the fight is seen all the way in new york and plain as day IN SPACE. If that blast or attack would have hit earth its no telling what damage it would have created. Read the scan. 😠
Originally posted by carver9
What are you talking about; they are fighting on the moon and the fight is seen all the way in new york and plain as day IN SPACE. If that blast or attack would have hit earth its no telling what damage it would have created. Read the scan. 😠
Wow, environmental damage, and it took a chunk out of the moon.
Really impressive.
Originally posted by carver9
Now show me mm greatest damage out put and lets compare. By the way, they were not fighting on the moon, it reached the moon
Do you know where Attillan is? Idiot.
You're also using the word ENERGY OUTPUT wrong, seeing as Manhunter's powers aren't energy powers. So while Black Bolt does less damage to WWH than She Hulk did, he might damage the moon more.
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Can your peanut brain comprehend the difference?
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Do you know where Attillan is? Idiot.You're also using the word ENERGY OUTPUT wrong, seeing as Manhunter's powers aren't energy powers. So while Black Bolt does less damage to WWH than She Hulk did, he might damage the moon more.
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Can your peanut brain comprehend the difference?
I said show me mm outputting more power then that.
People keep throwing around healing, but MM's got an insane healing factor as well.
I took a look in his respect thread (Credit where credit is due) and found this scan: http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/449/volcano2om5qt.jpg
Originally posted by quanchi112Are you saying that Glads isn't strong enough to throw or hit Hulk up into space? Please don't say yes.
No, he couldn't have or else he would have. You keep trying to forget about the comics and that isn't what we do here. I destroyed your example with a scan.
I concede here, because it doesn't matter to me. All that matters is that MM is able to do if he wants to.
Back up your case now. Provide evidence with MM bfring someone into space. Otherwise, you just made a claim you have never seen which you do all the time.
The second issue of Ostrander's solo series. A giant robot Antares gets BFRed into space (truth to be told, through, said robot was about to blow up and it happening in atmosphere was veeery unwanted thing).
Also BFR to space was performed on some alien carnivore worms. J'onn is no Sentry whom throwing stuff into sun has become a bad stupid kind of joke, but it's viable tactic on him providing the enemy is very dangerous and his prolonged contact with general population of planet\area is unwanted.
People there get CIS and PIS confused. MM is the same thing as Ares in Avengers- badass in solo series, generally "writers don't know what to do with him and there's also the factor of big names needing screen time" in team book. Though I did enjoy Morrison's MM (it surprised me that he didn't find a mythological counterpart- Proteus anyone? Ubershapechanger, also an "alien" to main pantheon, fits the "advisor" role being one of elder sea gods in Greek mythology).
With fight in area with no casualties to care about and no plot to promote the Trinity up, MM would act like who he is- a highly trained alien law enforcement officer with plethora of powers, not like a drug addict with a ton of mental problems who really didn't know what he wanted more- to stop Hulk or to get beaten by him....
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
The second issue of Ostrander's solo series. A giant robot Antares gets BFRed into space (truth to be told, through, said robot was about to blow up and it happening in atmosphere was veeery unwanted thing).Also BFR to space was performed on some alien carnivore worms. J'onn is no Sentry whom throwing stuff into sun has become a bad stupid kind of joke, but it's viable tactic on him providing the enemy is very dangerous and his prolonged contact with general population of planet\area is unwanted.
People there get CIS and PIS confused. MM is the same thing as Ares in Avengers- badass in solo series, generally "writers don't know what to do with him and there's also the factor of big names needing screen time" in team book. Though I did enjoy Morrison's MM (it surprised me that he didn't find a mythological counterpart- Proteus anyone? Ubershapechanger, also an "alien" to main pantheon, fits the "advisor" role being one of elder sea gods in Greek mythology).
With fight in area with no casualties to care about and no plot to promote the Trinity up, MM would act like who he is- a highly trained alien law enforcement officer with plethora of powers, not like a drug addict with a ton of mental problems who really didn't know what he wanted more- to stop Hulk or to get beaten by him....
I agree with every thing you said. it's just that hulk (a much weaker one at that) has battle field removed fing fang foom to the moon, so hulk has the same chance to do the same to MM. Also MM is a passive fighter like his fight with the white martians in grants run entitled new world order. I couldn't agree more that MM is different from sentry. One thing is that sentry has superior energy out put. Also sentry appears to be more durable. (maybe i'm not giving john the credit he deserves here but he did get taken out by doomsday atomic breath while sentry took the power cosmic to the chest and didn't flinch) Any way MM's normal MO would get him KO'ed. He would have to bring his crazy A game like when he was ferius. it's possible just not likely though considering he didn't even do it to save his life let alone some common place battle. If darwin who is able to evole on the spot could evole enough to take wwh blows i'm not seeing MM doing any better with his martain philogy.
Originally posted by jasofisc
I agree with every thing you said. it's just that hulk (a much weaker one at that) has battle field removed fing fang foom to the moon, so hulk has the same chance to do the same to MM. Also MM is a passive fighter like his fight with the white martians in grants run entitled new world order. I couldn't agree more that MM is different from sentry. One thing is that sentry has superior energy out put. Also sentry appears to be more durable. (maybe i'm not giving john the credit he deserves here but he did get taken out by doomsday atomic breath while sentry took the power cosmic to the chest and didn't flinch) Any way MM's normal MO would get him KO'ed. He would have to bring his crazy A game like when he was ferius. it's possible just not likely though considering he didn't even do it to save his life let alone some common place battle. If darwin who is able to evole on the spot could evole enough to take wwh blows i'm not seeing MM doing any better with his martain philogy.
Well, Darwin didn't try to evolve defensively to begin with- he tried to suck gamma energy out of Hulk and apparently couldn't do it fast enough.
Hulk style BFR of someone who can fly himself? Big LOL, I'd say.
Doomsday was supposed to be high level team wrecker. Terrax is probably the weakest herald ever... so no comparision there.
The edge of Martian Manhunter against any other flying brick is shapeshifting. His body is tailor made to restrain big bruicing enemies (something Darwin never tried to do so he's not an example despite he can theoretically do it, as for Reed he isn't a valid example as Reed doesn't even have above probably Class 10 strength himself- no real feats to state otherwise).
The tactic can be used and was used on panel:
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view¤t=Jimscomics201.jpg
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view¤t=Jimscomics202.jpg
If we use that "body wrap" in combination with flight and probably mass suck, we're having pretty nicely wrapped up Hulk. Unlike the case of White Martian "body wrapping" Superman (worked until Superman dug underground), Hulk wouldn't be able to do anything without proper leverage, completely covered in maleable superstrong structure. To succed with this kind of "restrain for BFR sake" J'onn would have to turn himself into giant living globe around Hulk.
That kind of tactic stays pretty in tune with his peaceloving (not masoschistic, mind you, just not loving exceed violence) personality and allows for safe BFR. Unlike the Glad tactic, this one uses full body wrap (and unlike Reed Richards, J'onn is strong enough not to be dealt with as sentient bubble gum\sucked into Hulk lungs\enter other nonsence).
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Well, Darwin didn't try to evolve defensively to begin with- he tried to suck gamma energy out of Hulk and apparently couldn't do it fast enough.Hulk style BFR of someone who can fly himself? Big LOL, I'd say.
Doomsday was supposed to be high level team wrecker. Terrax is probably the weakest herald ever... so no comparision there.
The edge of Martian Manhunter against any other flying brick is shapeshifting. His body is tailor made to restrain big bruicing enemies (something Darwin never tried to do so he's not an example despite he can theoretically do it, as for Reed he isn't a valid example as Reed doesn't even have above probably Class 10 strength himself- no real feats to state otherwise).
The tactic can be used and was used on panel:
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view¤t=Jimscomics201.jpg
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view¤t=Jimscomics202.jpgIf we use that "body wrap" in combination with flight and probably mass suck, we're having pretty nicely wrapped up Hulk. Unlike the case of White Martian "body wrapping" Superman (worked until Superman dug underground), Hulk wouldn't be able to do anything without proper leverage, completely covered in maleable superstrong structure. To succed with this kind of "restrain for BFR sake" J'onn would have to turn himself into giant living globe around Hulk.
That kind of tactic stays pretty in tune with his peaceloving (not masoschistic, mind you, just not loving exceed violence) personality and allows for safe BFR. Unlike the Glad tactic, this one uses full body wrap (and unlike Reed Richards, J'onn is strong enough not to be dealt with as sentient bubble gum\sucked into Hulk lungs\enter other nonsence).
darwin couldn't come up with an evole so he left or his body instinctively left trying using all the context. Your tatic is sound witht he MM doing that to WWH. But I don't see it happening. J'ohn rarely ever did that and wouldn't likely do that to hulk. As far as the doomsday/terrax thing. Well i'm talking about the power of there blast not fights. Doomsday's atomic breath didn't do much damage to the ground behind superman when superman let it pass though him. It did however mess MM us. Terrex blasts were causing a lot of damage so the comparison is valid if you look at what i'm comparing.
on thing your forgetting about WWH is that he is radiating a large about of radiation when when MM wraps himself around him it's not going to be fun. Then when you take into consideration when hulk was stomping he was releasing a vast amount more. Hulk would get to that level if he was frustrated enough which being put in a big bag would do to him. That should equal the kind of energy to put MM down. So really that's one of the worst things MM could do.
also the fin fang foom feat just means that hulk was able to throw him so fast by the time Fin had a chance to understand what was happing and get other the dilirum he was on the moon. Not saying if Hulk did the same to MM it would work but MM isn't going to weather going though the atmosphere that fast very well.
