ROTS Mace va anakin

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Because when they were fighting him 2 on 1, they were using ploy forms and utilizing their mastered forms.

This is only ever stated in the contradictory (to the movies, the highest form of canon) novelisation duel. I say contradictory given how the combatants chuck objects at each other telekinetically, and perform moves and sequences that never take place in the movie.

Also, Anakin needs more room to properly use his, so when OB1 got disposed of, that gave Anakin all the room and reason to open up on Dooku.

Thanks for the info, Captain Obvious. Sure Anakin needs room to properly use his form, any Jedi who utilises that kind of form would, but there's a reason that he and Obi-Wan faced Dooku as a team, and that's because the combined effort of two individuals who are close in skill and used to fighting together will always perform better as a team than simply alone. Yet Dooku was still fully capable of completely outclassing them both, and separating them.

And Dooku got tooled, plain and simple.

Right. Despite in no way dominating the fight at all, and only winning due to overpowering Dooku with one unorthodox manoeuvre. I can really see how that equates to Dooku getting "tooled." 🙄

And Anakin didn't pull a fast one.

Well, he wasn't dominating the fight, and the only sign of superiority that he showed was where he was able to overpower his opponent. That's what you'd call a fast one.

It says in the novel that with every blow Anakin delivered, he aged Dooku a decade, and all of Dooku's skills became a joke. That sounds like pwnage or getting tooled to me.

Again, from the contradictory novelisation fight description, and even then, quite clearly hyperbolic. Not to mention, even if Anakin had been tooling Dooku, Dooku was instructed not to kill him, which would essentially be limiting how well he could fight against him.

Originally posted by NateGreySummers

This is only ever stated in the contradictory (to the movies, the highest form of canon) novelisation duel. I say contradictory given how the combatants chuck objects at each other telekinetically, and perform moves and sequences that never take place in the movie.

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Regarding the "contradiction" you attempted to point out, the novel merely elaborates on what is going on during the duel. If you actually paid attention to the scene, anakin could not break through dookus defence when it was in a 2 v 1 situation, this ALONE indicates to us that anakin needed space to completely utalise his saber form which we clearly saw when he "tooled" dooku in a 1 v 1 situation.

Originally posted by NateGreySummers

Again, from the contradictory novelisation fight description, and even then, quite clearly hyperbolic. Not to mention, even if Anakin had been tooling Dooku, Dooku was instructed not to kill him, which would essentially be limiting how well he could fight against him. [/B]

Hell this DOES NOT contradict the movies as we saw anakin beating the crap out of dooku in less than a minute after the saber lock so what the novel stated IS true. The movie does not depict anakins thoughts does it?

The novel is pretty much considered between G and C-Canon. The highest after the movies, which would make all of the sources that disagree with the idea that Dooku was told to hold back wrong in that case (like the NEC, which at best is C-Canon reference material, and at worst an in-universe encyclopedia).

However, it's not as canon as the movies, so the contradictions that occur are completely N-Canon, and the fight scene is full of them, making it completely void (including character thought, given they're dependant on the events taking place). It's not that the novel simply elaborates on some things that the movie doesn't, it actually depicts completely different events in the duel.

Honestly, the novel makes it out like Dooku was being completely dominated, when that interpretation simply can't be formed from the film. He holds his own the entire time up until the very end where he's overpowered.