Onslaught and Apocalypse

Originally posted by Xplosive
Cool. Meggan still did the feat that Apocalypse nor Onslaught shown they could match, not even if they would combine their effort.
Onslaught was powerful, to take anyone on the team, except Meggan (maybe he could give a fight).
Apocalypse could also be able to take some individuals from the team.
But Rune King Thor and Meggan, Apocalypse in such battle wouldn't be in much of a help to Onslaught.

So, the team wins.

Good thing Apocalypse and Onslaught aren't asked to copy her feats then, but beat her instead. Meggan is very weak to telepathy, simple as that. It's an instant win for either Apocalypse or Onslaught.

I don't think Rune King Thor was specified and Thor has yet to display any form of rune magic after his rebirth. It's safe to assume that OP was referring to classic Thor. If not, then he would win.

Originally posted by llagrok
Meggan is as susceptible to telepathy as anyone else. It's a win for only Onslaught who actually is a telepath since Emma Frost still has more telekinetic feats than Apocalypse has telepathic feats and she still isn't considered a telepath.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Fixed. vin

.... Emma Frost isn't a telepath?

Bizatch. 😮 You know what I meant. 😒 Urg.

I realized Meggan is much more powerful than i thought after reading her respect thread. Jamie Braddock can't affect her and she can copy someone right down to the DNA so she can also copy other's mutant powers. She can become sand like Dust and be telepathic resistant or take on a form like Husk once did that made her telepathy immune. I think she can solo Apoc even without going all out.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Fixed. vin

Naw, Apocalypse has roughly 6 displays of telepathy.

His telepathy - appearance ratio is higher than Emma's telekinesis - appearance ratio.

6? More like one possible pisblast. Hmm, typo or not?

Oh and a loose interpretation of another scan where he "talks through his minion."

Strong mental defenses, yes. Enough telepathic feats to consider him a telepath... not really. An inability to access the Astral Plane of his own accord... yes.

doped

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
6? More like one possible pisblast. Hmm, typo or not?

Oh and a loose interpretation of another scan where he "talks through his minion."

Strong mental defenses, yes. Enough telepathic feats to consider him a telepath... not really. An inability to access the Astral Plane of his own accord... yes.

doped

What about the one where he reads Ozymandias' mind? Or reflects Jean's telepathic attack?

Originally posted by llagrok
What about the one where he reads Ozymandias' mind? Or reflects Jean's telepathic attack?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Enough telepathic feats to consider him a telepath... not really.

Apocalypse appeared to be telepathically talking to Exodus.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The latter shows psionic defenses.

Apocalypse was fighting off Jean's best attempt to defeat him telepathically (the telepathic equivalent of Silver Surfer, putting his "all" into one last assault) through sheer force of will. This seemed to somewhat imply that he had no telepathic powers at this time, but this was retconned in the Exodus one-shot.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Apocalypse appeared to be telepathically talking to Exodus.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Apocalypse was fighting off Jean's best attempt to defeat him telepathically (the telepathic equivalent of Silver Surfer, putting his "all" into one last assault) through sheer force of will. This seemed to somewhat imply that he had no telepathic powers at this time, but this was retconned in the Exodus one-shot.

And at the very least his most recent incarnation hasn't shown any telepathic ability afaik.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That was ambiguous.

How?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If you mean in the pages prior

And then the Mantis creature comes up...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And at the very least his most recent incarnation hasn't shown any telepathic ability afaik.

So?

The handbooks mentions telekinesis, yet he hasn't shown that since the '90's.

Oops forgot to finish my sentence. If you mean the pages prior, the bubbles depicted are verbal speech bubbles. I.e. a voice coming from an unknown location, later revealed to be from the mantis creature.

Which leaves that a mantis creature is talking to Exodus, which you're free to interpret as Apocalypse talking through the mantis creature, or alternatively can be just as easily interpreted as simply the mantis creature talking to him. Thus the ambiguity. Or further alternatively the mantis may not be an organic creature but rather a technological - in which case the voice may be being "broadcast" from it.

Do they mention telepathy in the recent bios? Rhetorical question. The 1991 bio even specifically mentions "Superhuman mental powers: None known." Way too many on again off agains.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Oops forgot to finish my sentence. If you mean the pages prior, the bubbles depicted are verbal speech bubbles. I.e. a voice coming from an unknown location, later revealed to be from the mantis creature.

Which leaves that a mantis creature is talking to Exodus, which you're free to interpret as Apocalypse talking through the mantis creature, or alternatively can be just as easily interpreted as simply the mantis creature talking to him. Thus the ambiguity.

But shouldn't Apocalypse be the one to speak to Exodus?

It looks like the mantis creature is being teleported to Exouds in the third scan...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Do they mention telepathy in the recent bios? Rhetorical question. The 1991 bio even specifically mentions "Superhuman mental powers: None known."

That's a VERY old bio. He hadn't even shown telekinesis by then.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
But shouldn't Apocalypse be the one to speak to Exodus?

It also looks like the mantis creature is being teleported to Exouds in the third scan.

That's a VERY old bio. He hadn't even shown telekinesis by then.

Could very well be Apocalypse speaking through the mantis - old hat to telepaths even in the low levels of ability I'd imagine - not exactly something to write home about... and nothing that would imply an uberness in telepathic ability.

Looked to me like it surfaced from below the ground, thus the dirt falling off it. Unless for some reason it was teleported below the ground only to surface... 😬

On an aside: Current occupation: Instigator of warfare among mutants and normal human beings made me chuckle.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I only mentioned it because you mentioned bios... recent one doesn't mention telepathy either...

Recent one doesn't mention his other abilities either... 😬

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Looked to me like it surfaced from below the ground, thus the dirt falling off it. Unless for some reason it was teleported below the ground only to surface... 😬

Well, Apocalypse's citadel was suppose have been below the ground.

One of the worst spite threads ever.

Onslaught/Apoc 100/10.