Cyber bullying: Technology and McLuhan

Started by ADarksideJedi2 pages

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
are you guys kidding me?!!

i dont like cyber bullying but it shouldnt be a crime and ppl shouldnt be getting arrested for it what is wrong with you ppl have anyone heard of oh i dont know constitutional rights and freedom of speech?

and no hurting your feelings isnt unconstitutional... dont matter how old you are

If they are threathing you then it is consider a crime.The cop that I talked too had said this to me.

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goading ppl isnt a crime and a lot of cops, lawyers and judges are seriously skewing the laws and interpretation to even remotely make such a case in regards to cyber bullying

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
There is only ONE way to stop a Cyb er Bully.

Punching him in the face. Then he'll report you and run to his mommy.

A rather harsh generalization but plausible.

Could always send them a gnarly virus, that works pretty well too. I mean, i've heard. 😉

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
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goading ppl isnt a crime and a lot of cops, lawyers and judges are seriously skewing the laws and interpretation to even remotely make such a case in regards to cyber bullying

Ok whatever you say. 😉

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Ok whatever you say. 😉

Are you going to let him bully you like that? 😄

lol acourse not!

i think it is rare to be arrested for cyber bullying.

i mean in my state it may not even be illegal and if it were i doubt it would be taken too seriously..

i mean could you imagine.. some poster from canada threaten to kick my @$$ b/c we were debating and it got heated..

you dont live in canada why are you worried? get out of here and tell us when your threaten in person not on D&D

Clearly the girl has psychological problems, it's not even a story, im sure theres some knife crime or gun crime or a kidnapping soewhere that needs to be brought to attention..

Some crazy girl killed herself from reading some text online? Well? One less crazy person in the world who could have possibly become dangerous to others aswell as herself. Thank goodness my son and daughter have one less mental case sharing there environment.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i think it is rare to be arrested for cyber bullying.

i mean in my state it may not even be illegal and if it were i doubt it would be taken too seriously..

i mean could you imagine.. some poster from canada threaten to kick my @$$ b/c we were debating and it got heated..

you dont live in canada why are you worried? get out of here and tell us when your threaten in person not on D&D

What state do you live in?Yea like I am going to leave just because you say so that is a laugh! 😆 🙄

Originally posted by coberst
Cyber bullying: Technology and McLuhan

The cruel mob pursued 13 year old Megan Meier through our high tech “social networking site MySpace and called Megan a liar, a fat whore and worse”.

Megan, 13, fought back, but she was overwhelmed. “Mom, they’re being horrible!” Megan said, “sobbing into the phone when her mother called. After an hour, Megan ran into her bedroom and hanged herself with a belt.”

“She felt there was no way out,” Ms. Meier said.

McLuhan has stated that all technology is an extension of a human faculty. The ‘bomb is an extension of the fist’ is a simple example.

“The Medium is The Message” is the phrase that made Marshall McLuhan famous. It is a phrase most of us, young and old, have heard. Until recently this was a mysterious phrase that left me speechless.

Let’s get very fundamental here and go back to the invention of the alphabet to understand what McLuhan is talking about and why it is important.

“The Greek myth about the alphabet was that Cadmus, reputedly the king who introduced the phonetic letters into Greece, sowed dragoon’s teeth, and they sprang up armed men. Like any other myth, this one capsulates a prolonged process into a flashing insight. The alphabet meant power and authority and control of military structures at a distance. When combined with papyrus, the alphabet spelled the end of the stationary temple bureaucracies and the priestly monopolies of knowledge and power.”

“The phonetic alphabet is a unique technology…This stark division and parallelism between a visual and an auditory world was both crude and ruthless, culturally speaking. The phonetically written sacrifices worlds of meaning and perception that were secured by forms like the hieroglyphs and the Chinese ideogram. These culturally richer forms of writing, however, offered men no means of sudden transfer from the magically discontinuous and traditional world of the tribal word into the cool and uniform visual medium.”

“All of these forms [pictographic and hieroglyphic] give pictorial expression to oral meanings. As such, they approximate the animated cartoon and are extremely unwieldy, requiring many signs for the infinity of data operations of social action. In contrast, the phonetic alphabet, by a few letters only, was able to encompass all languages.”

Consider the invention of the printing press and the introduction of books to the society. A book communicates a message. Many books communicate many messages. ‘The book’ communicates the same message to everyone who comes into contact with the book. The book transmits the same message to everyone while many books transmit many different messages to many different people.

Evolution moves very slowly. We adapt to our environment very slowly. We survive because we do adapt. When we change more quickly than we can adapt we face problems that we have not had the time to make the kind of adjustments necessary.

The habits we acquire determine our state of mind. Our changing habits are part of this process of adaptation to our environment. Do not think of environment as being just the quality of our air or water but it is a broad term signifying the world we live in.

So we have changed very dramatically our habits that were part of us when we knew little and understood much. I am speaking relatively here. What happens to us as a result of this dramatic change? I do not know but I only point to the fact as worth consideration.

Examine how we sit and watch TV for several hours everyday. When we watch TV we are constantly being transported perceptively from one scene to another. Think for a minute if instead of sitting and watching TV we were physically escorted done a hallway with many doors. Then we open a door and are physically placed into this world we see on TV. Our reaction would be very different. In other words we are creatures prepared for a certain world that no longer exists. This is the definition of a forthcoming extinction if we think about the meaning of evolution.

Has our technology become our master? I think so.

This story about Megan by Christopher Maag, “When the Bullies Turned Faceless” was published in the December 17 edition of the NYTimes.

Did this Megan have a mental issue? Like severe clinical depression or something like that? I doubt that the internetz were the entire cause, but instead they were the straw that broke the camel's back.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
What state do you live in?Yea like I am going to leave just because you say so that is a laugh! 😆 🙄
look to the left of my post in my avatar.. i wasnt saying you need to leave just saying what the cops would say to me if i when in with a cyber bullying complained 😉

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
look to the left of my post in my avatar.. i wasnt saying you need to leave just saying what the cops would say to me if i when in with a cyber bullying complained 😉

Oh ok never been to that state.So just leave as get out of the police station or just leave the site? 😕

they would tell me to leave the police station and grow a pair and stop posting in a forum that i am being picked on or block them...

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
they would tell me to leave the police station and grow a pair and stop posting in a forum that i am being picked on or block them...

I was told that but I did block them however.I thought the cops did a great job with helping me. 😎

wait.. your a victim of cyber bullying?

Yes a while back but it was on facebook and text not on here.

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sigh.. the cops and anyone who intrudes on and violates the constitutional rights deserves to be locked up with the same ppl that they arrest..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
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sigh.. the cops and anyone who intrudes on and violates the constitutional rights deserves to be locked up with the same ppl that they arrest..

I am sure they are out now.But they are leaving me alone so that is all that I could ask for. 😎