Christmas, why celebrate it?

Started by Symmetric Chaos5 pages
Originally posted by peejayd
* the peace was also offered to the Egyptians, they refused, they did not believe Moses... if only they had blood of lamb painted on their houses and believed Moses, that would not have happened...

They weren't offered peace. They were threatened with mass murder.

If Moses had negotiated in a rational manner you'd have a case.

* they were offered peace... in fact, Moses asked them for a 3-day worship, then Israelites would come back to Egypt, but they refused... all they did was contest Moses...

Originally posted by peejayd
* they were offered peace... in fact, Moses asked them for a 3-day worship, then Israelites would come back to Egypt, but they refused... all they did was contest Moses...

So the course of events (vastly simplified)

"Give us three days to worship and we'll come back."
"No, come back now."
"Guess I just have to start killing people."

Or something like that? That's terrorism not negotiation. Hardly an offer of peace. The request certainly wasn't unreasonable but the response to rejection was ridiculously out of proportion.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So the course of events (vastly simplified)

"Give us three days to worship and we'll come back."
"No, come back now."
"Guess I just have to start killing people."

Or something like that? That's terrorism not negotiation. Hardly an offer of peace. The request certainly wasn't unreasonable but the response to rejection was ridiculously out of proportion.

"Give us three days to worship and we'll come back."
"No, come back now." wrong, it's like: "no way!"
"Guess I just have to start killing people." wrong... there are many things Moses did for the Egypt for them to accept

Originally posted by peejayd
"Give us three days to worship and we'll come back."
"No, come back now." [b]wrong, it's like: "no way!"

"Guess I just have to start killing people." wrong... there are many things Moses did for the Egypt for them to accept [/B]

So he was rude, hardly worth killing over.

Did these things involve talking or were they more plagues? (which would be terrorism again)

* no, Moses came peacefully... plagues was last-ditch... so you see how hard-headed the Egyptians were in those days? even after the plagues and the death of all firstborn, they still refused? actually, they let them go but afterwards, went after them?

Early Christians never exchanged gifts. That was pagan.