Mewtwo v.s. Kratos

Started by Blax_Hydralisk11 pages
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Love me.

I'll always love you.

2. Right...and Kratos will just sit and let him do this? God Kratos is some ways bigger and MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH stronger than anything M2 has faced, and has more willpower.

Prove will power can fight M2's TK.

3. Last time I checked the Greek Gods shaped the cosmos and are not bound by laws of nature like that...Kratos is a Greek God, doesn't need to breathe, can't be injured normally, all Kratos has to do is fry him.

A) Some gods can, while many other Greek gods and goddesses can actually be killed by simple Humans. B) D'unt care what they're [i]supposed to do, feats please.

5. Kratos resists TK with his vastly superior size, strength, and will,

Why? I'm curious to know. Simply wanting to win and being angry does not mean he can resist TK.

then frys M2 with a building size lightning bolt, which M2 will not avoid, cause lightning travels at, you know, light.

Except for the fact that he doesn''t throw them instantaneously, and Mew-two doesn't even have to be anywhere near him to kill him.

BRB in like 2 hours, Church calls.

You have church at 9:51 pm?

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
I'll always love you.

Prove will power can fight M2's TK.

A) Some gods can, while many other Greek gods and goddesses can actually be killed by simple Humans. B) D'unt care what they're [i]supposed to do, feats please.

Why? I'm curious to know. Simply wanting to win and being angry does not mean he can resist TK.

Except for the fact that he doesn''t throw them instantaneously, and Mew-two doesn't even have to be anywhere near him to kill him.

1. YAY!

2. Will power means he will be trying to fight the TK harder with his great size and strength. How's about you prove M2 can TK something as strong or big as God Kratos?

3. Feats? Well from Zeus he ended the Titan War with one blow using the Blade of Olympus, Kratos as a mortal(with uberzor stuffs) beat him. Ares took a spear or sumthin and threw it at Kratos from miles away, which shows great strength, and aim, and some sort of advanced awareness, as he sensed Kratos from that far, Kratos logically has Ares' powers now that he replaced him.

4. Not alone, but combined with phenomenol strength and size, sure.

5. And M2 prolly can't even TK him, Kratos could also use his attacks like Poseidon's Rage, Atlas Quake, or Medusa's Flash, which would NOT miss, M2 would have to be VERY far away to dodge those.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope

2. Will power means he will be trying to fight the TK harder with his great size and strength. How's about you prove M2 can TK something as strong or big as God Kratos?

Mew-Two can physically change the weather across the entire planet using his TK, he can move entire herds if animals that weigh at least 600 + pounds by himself with his TK. he can also lift at least a hundred+ plus pokemon and levitate them while flying threw the air and flew across the world with them.. note that some of those pokemon also weighed over 500 pounds. And strength has nothing to do with it. As far as TK is concerned, the only thing that can counter TK is equal TK strength, unless you can prove otherwise.

3. Feats? Well from Zeus he ended the Titan War with one blow using the Blade of Olympus, Kratos as a mortal(with uberzor stuffs) beat him. Ares took a spear or sumthin and threw it at Kratos from miles away, which shows great strength, and aim, and some sort of advanced awareness, as he sensed Kratos from that far, Kratos logically has Ares' powers now that he replaced him.

Those are all very good feats, but nothing that can save him from powerful TK attacks.

4. Not alone, but combined with phenomenal strength and size, sure.

Neither size nor strength mean anything if you're own brain is shutting down, or simply explodes.

5. And M2 prolly can't even TK him, Kratos could also use his attacks like Poseidon's Rage, Atlas Quake, or Medusa's Flash, which would NOT miss, M2 would have to be VERY far away to dodge those.

Eh, this debatable.. and, I shall play Devil's Advocate, even if he gets off one of those attacks, I am confident that Mew-two's bubble shield thing can protect him from it. It did protect him from basically a nuclear explosion.

Also, to correct one of your other points.. lightning does not travel as fast as lightning; it travels half as fast.

I'm confused, what is your basis for the point physical strength and raw willpower will resist TK?

No one to my knowledge has ever even had the slightest resist due to size OR will.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I'm confused, what is your basis for the point physical strength and raw willpower will resist TK?

No one to my knowledge has ever even had the slightest resist due to size OR will.

opposing TK powers or mind powers imo are likely to either negate another TK or weaken them if the opposing TK is stronger
but ime not sure if TK can be defeated by physical strength, but weight, considering God Kratos is bigger than anything M2 has ever lifted and certainly heavier, M2 is done for

Originally posted by Burning thought
opposing TK powers or mind powers imo are likely to either negate another TK or weaken them if the opposing TK is stronger
but ime not sure if TK can be defeated by physical strength, but weight, considering God Kratos is bigger than anything M2 has ever lifted and certainly heavier, M2 is done for

Hmm, well Mewtwo made like a sea storm with the ocean, you think Kratos weights more that the 10 or so square miles of Ocean Mewtwo was toying with?

Kratos has mind powers?? if that true i understand, but never heard of that before.....

And force of will affecting TK is an absurd claim

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Hmm, well Mewtwo made like a sea storm with the ocean, you think Kratos weights more that the 10 or so square miles of Ocean Mewtwo was toying with?

Kratos has mind powers?? if that true i understand, but never heard of that before.....

And force of will affecting TK is an absurd claim

thats not the same as actually lifting the body of ocean, most beings with weather manip can move and manipulate ocean, what did he do? just create a mealstrom, its more likely imo he was controlling tiny areas of the thing to move it round, similiar a human can create swirls with their fingers in water, only M2 is using TK to do it to ocean area

no he does not from what i remember, i was just stating their the things imo that would fight against TK

yes i dont think force of will will do much good at all unless ofc that person had TK or great mind power

but i think overall Kratos weight will beat M2 and the fact hes Durability is God level M2 wont be able to do anything at all to Kratos, Kratos stones M2

Hm, true enough, but still, the power of such a feat. It's not even like he was having to focus on it either. That pretty much why i rate Mewtwo so high.

I can't see Kratos winning, I don't see him dying, but being incapacitated is good enough. Just shove him down a volcano or out of the atmosphere, problem solved

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Hm, true enough, but still, the power of such a feat. It's not even like he was having to focus on it either. That pretty much why i rate Mewtwo so high.

I can't see Kratos winning, I don't see him dying, but being incapacitated is good enough. Just shove him down a volcano or out of the atmosphere, problem solved

lifting Kratos is going to be a feat in itself if he is large God form, actually moving him quickly or at any grand scale rate is another all together, hes not going to end up defeated by M2, no way is that possible imo

even if M2 used all his strength to lift Kratos, Kratos would just send out a medusa blast and stone M2 before he can do anything, M2 does not have the needed powers to stop kratos imo nor to incapaicate him

Originally posted by Burning thought
lifting Kratos is going to be a feat in itself if he is large God form, actually moving him quickly or at any grand scale rate is another all together, hes not going to end up defeated by M2, no way is that possible imo

even if M2 used all his strength to lift Kratos, Kratos would just send out a medusa blast and stone M2 before he can do anything, M2 does not have the needed powers to stop kratos imo nor to incapaicate him

When has Mewtwo ever shown strain in his TK? you'll need to show me something if you want to use the 'lifting kratos will take effort' card

Psy Shield FTW

Originally posted by EvilAngel
When has Mewtwo ever shown strain in his TK? you'll need to show me something if you want to use the 'lifting kratos will take effort' card

Psy Shield FTW

okie M2 throws the moon at Kratos, then the sun and hell he just slings the Earth into the sun.....

no the limit regardless of strain is the heaviest thing weve seen him lift, otherwise were stepping into assumptions, i can easily assume Kains TK is >>> M2 just because Kain has never strained to use TK but he has not lifted much more than a man

Originally posted by Burning thought
okie M2 throws the moon at Kratos, then the sun and hell he just slings the Earth into the sun.....

no the limit regardless of strain is the heaviest thing weve seen him lift, otherwise were stepping into assumptions, i can easily assume Kains TK is >>> M2 just because Kain has never strained to use TK but he has not lifted much more than a man

So you're comparing God Kratos to the moon?

Originally posted by EvilAngel
So you're comparing God Kratos to the moon?

huh what are you talking about, i was preying on the fact you basically said theres no limit to M2 TK because hes never strained while using it, so i was being sarcrastic by saying he slings the moon

God kratos is not as heavey as the moon, but hes like the size of a city and taller than most in ancient times, when M2 slings a skycraper with TK (the whole thing) please let me know 😛

Originally posted by Burning thought
huh what are you talking about, i was preying on the fact you basically said theres no limit to M2 TK because hes never strained while using it, so i was being sarcrastic by saying he slings the moon

God kratos is not as heavey as the moon, but hes like the size of a city and taller than most in ancient times, when M2 slings a skycraper with TK (the whole thing) please let me know 😛

Lol, i never said there's no limit, I said he has not show strain thus far. I don't see Lifting Kratos being a problem for him, that's all.

Okay, he blew one up instantly.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Lol, i never said there's no limit, I said he has not show strain thus far. I don't see Lifting Kratos being a problem for him, that's all.

Okay, he blew one up instantly.

that sounds the same to me, if he hasnt had a strain, he can lift God Kratos, God Kratos can be very large

id like to see him blow a skyscraper instantly, but anyway thats not lifting, blowing up is not the same is it

Originally posted by Burning thought
that sounds the same to me, if he hasnt had a strain, he can lift God Kratos, God Kratos can be very large

id like to see him blow a skyscraper instantly, but anyway thats not lifting, blowing up is not the same is it

Let me clarify for you, I have no doubt in my mind the moon is way too big for Mewtwo to Move with his TK.

Watch the first movie. The fact is, blowing it up meaning applying lots of force..... lifting would be easier.......

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Let me clarify for you, I have no doubt in my mind the moon is way too big for Mewtwo to Move with his TK.

Watch the first movie. The fact is, blowing it up meaning applying lots of force..... lifting would be easier.......

gdgd, so really this is just an opinion, not many logical operators going into it?

false, blowing something up means a strong amount of force in one shot, lifting would mean a large amount of force over a duration of the lifting, like a man punching a brick wall is not as difficult as a man lifting it up with his arms over a duration

i just dont see M2 doing anything more than annoying Kratos and eventually M2 will be hit by a Kronos rage, Stoned solid or else followed constantly by hades soldiers

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Mew-Two can physically change the weather across the entire planet using his TK, he can move entire herds if animals that weigh at least 600 + pounds by himself with his TK. he can also lift at least a hundred+ plus pokemon and levitate them while flying threw the air and flew across the world with them.. note that some of those pokemon also weighed over 500 pounds. And strength has nothing to do with it. As far as TK is concerned, the only thing that can counter TK is equal TK strength, unless you can prove otherwise.

Those are all very good feats, but nothing that can save him from powerful TK attacks.

Neither size nor strength mean anything if you're own brain is shutting down, or simply explodes.

Eh, this debatable.. and, I shall play Devil's Advocate, even if he gets off one of those attacks, I am confident that Mew-two's bubble shield thing can protect him from it. It did protect him from basically a nuclear explosion.

Also, to correct one of your other points.. lightning does not travel as fast as lightning; it travels half as fast.

1. Manip weather? That is not a lifting TK feat, it is a TK manipulation feat, Storm, Ganondorf, and many others can manip weather, doesn't make them uberzor TK gods. Lifting a bunch(like 30-50 at most) Pokemon, some of which weighed alot? Kratos weighs more than them all combined, much larger than them, and one thing no one has mentioned, gods in GoW are almost solid mass, they have more layers of bone and much tougher skin, as shown inside Atlas, who is a Titan, and Titans and gods are pretty much the same species, just a different name. Strength has nothing to do with it? TK binds and restrains things, and holds them, a guy that's strong enough can get out of the grip of another guy who is restraining or binding him, why can't he get out of TK?

2. Sure they can. With the vastly superior strength and size difference.

3. First of all, when has M2 ever sploded a brain? Kratos' brain is much more advanced than a normal person's(or a dumb animal Pokemon), why will it work on Kratos, a god?

4. When? Also, lightning is as hot as the sun, Poseidon's Rage and Zeus' Fury(T3h thunderbolts) are lightning, as is Cronos' Rage(or whatever, all his attacks have dumbass names like that). Also, if M2 so much as sees Medusa's Flash, he will be turned to stone, it will bypass the shield.

5. Lightning is twice as fast as lightning? 😉

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Kratos fries him with a lightning bolt.
Mew two has blocked electric type attacks before. And yes lightning is the same thing as electircity, the electric attacks that he blocked are powerful enough to smash stones.

This "Kratos has willpower" is as absurd as the "thing has heart" arguments.