Originally posted by Larceny
Thats not saying much. There isn't a being ever, herald level, abstract, or the god of dc himself that is going to kill Superman. He's too vital to the company.
Maybe now we can drop all the talk of "OMG, BA is insane and will kill before Superman ftw!"
Originally posted by ValYes you are right becuz dc loves Superman. Supes wont be killing off either of these characters either though.
What does that have to do with you and others thinking Black Adam's willingness to kill is an advantage for him?Neither Teth or Orion are going to be killing Superman anytime soon or ever, really.
a few things
first as far as the fight goes it's a toss up maybe sups 6/10 due to a slightly greater power set
secondly far as sups goes as a character, yea he is kinda stale, you know it i know it the whole wolrd knows it, and before you go saying i havent read any superman comics yes i have, just compared to other characters his personal life is a little dull aside from a few hiccups here and there that dc decides to throw us.
and what's this about marvel characters being dull? that cant be any further from the truth. Marvel defined the common man superhero and took character depth to whole new levels
Originally posted by lando005
a few thingsfirst as far as the fight goes it's a toss up maybe sups 6/10 due to a slightly greater power set
secondly far as sups goes as a character, yea he is kinda stale, you know it i know it the whole wolrd knows it, and before you go saying i havent read any superman comics yes i have, just compared to other characters his personal life is a little dull aside from a few hiccups here and there that dc decides to throw us.
and what's this about marvel characters being dull? that cant be any further from the truth. Marvel defined the common man superhero and took character depth to whole new levels
Originally posted by vlaaad12345i do read post crisis mainy the b/s issues, how is marvel dull? do they have some dull characters? sure every company does, but if you look thoes characters are surfer and such, cosmic characters they arent really suppose to have the same type of connection to us as say spiderman.
If you claim to have read superman comics but still say hes dull then you dont read post crisis superman comics its that simple,alot of marvel characters are dull especially the higher up beings but no one seems to complain about those.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345Yea thats right anyone who is willing to see Superman for what he really is or has a different honest opinion than his fans are just ignorant.
If you claim to have read superman comics but still say hes dull then you dont read post crisis superman comics its that simple,alot of marvel characters are dull especially the higher up beings but no one seems to complain about those.
I'll have you know, thou I'm sure no one will accept this as truth, I do happen to own allot of Superman comics and have read every one of them since I read every comic I own before I put it away. Or at least get a copy of the ones that are special. ex Death Issue of Superman still in the black bag sealed!
So yes I do read Superman and quite frankly as many of you know I do greatly dislike the character and willing admit I am biased but stand that it is for good reason and still challenge someone to prove what I say as wrong with more than just claiming the character is deep without reason and just mass iconic worship!
Originally posted by lando005
i do read post crisis mainy the b/s issues, how is marvel dull? do they have some dull characters? sure every company does, but if you look thoes characters are surfer and such, cosmic characters they arent really suppose to have the same type of connection to us as say spiderman.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345Classic! Now Supes primary source isn't enough to back his fans claims. lol
Yea...that would be your problem....b/s comics arent exactly the best reading material for superman.
Seeing as how thats the place to find the cannon superman and the quote, unquote only real version where would you have us look?
Originally posted by Entity
Classic! Now Supes primary source isn't enough to back his fans claims. lolSeeing as how thats the place to find the cannon superman and the quote, unquote only real version where would you have us look?
Originally posted by Entity
Growing in power set only thou.
Not in character depth.What is the point to having a character with near unlimited power and no weaknesses?
Some characters grow by being powered up, some by being powered down some by completely drastic changes or only just minor to their personal lives.
I just fail to see the point to a character that becomes basically unbeatable.
If this were a story about a demi god or such fighting other demi gods and such then I'd understand.
But its not! Its a near god fighting things and people not nearly as strong as him. And its suppose to be looked upon as heroism? If he has all this power then its really no trouble or risk to save the day its just being a decent being. IMO
This superman hate is completely unjustified.
You always know what you're talking about, but this is borderline hate or just plain bias. I used to think that Superman was a horrible character as well, until I actually read some of his comics.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345that's why i said mainly i read other titles too but in general he just isnt someone to relate to. Not saying he's a bad character, but just a little out dated, probably would be best to make him a non earth based character or retire his charater all together making his legend and legacy even stronger
Yea...that would be your problem....b/s comics arent exactly the best reading material for superman.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345ok I'm dead tired form working nearly 90 hours this week. I didn't catch the b/s or did but thought it stood for bullshit or something.
Since when is batman superman the primary source of superman?last time I checked his own comic book was,what claims am I making mr I complain about supermans lack of character but dont care about marvel characters and continue to ***** with no real point at all.
his comic was what i thought was being refered to.
Originally posted by llagrok
This superman hate is completely unjustified.You always know what you're talking about, but this is borderline hate or just plain bias. I used to think that Superman was a horrible character as well, until I actually read some of his comics.
Originally posted by quanchi112
There are certain top tiers Superman has not proven to be superior to in the dcu. Orion and Black Adam are two characters that are up for debate against the man of steel.
What top tier characters have Adam killed?
Originally posted by Entity
What haven't I read specifically? Since you seem to know. While I haven't read everything Superman I have a shitload of his comics I collect for the comic importance. I have read all of those!
If you've read a lot of Superman comics, then you should know that he has a lot of depth...
Originally posted by llagrokWhat I know is that he's a pointless character that is so far beyond unbelievable its unreal, no one with that much power is that much a boyscout except Jesus and God, and all his stories are the same.
If you've read a lot of Superman comics, then you should know that he has a lot of depth...
Same beginning, same middle, same end!
He finds trouble, he starts to get beat, then he decides he has to win and simply wills it so because he quits being a retard with his near limitless power and lack of real weakness and "stops holding back!" 🙄
He gets everything, the fame, the power, the job, the perfect secret life, the fans, the girl, the respect, and what does he EVER lose? ...NOTHING!
He always saves everyone and the only thing he's even got to complain about is how he can't save everyone and how a planet and species he never knew is gone!
Like no one else or other hero has to deal with anything like that. When in fact the are countless that deal with that and so so so so much more.
What is the freaking point to a character with everything that loses nothing except a life he never had and gets unlimited power and a complete lack of weaknesses to compensate?
So please tell me whats deep? Where is this supposed depth you've found that I am apparently obliviously to? You keep saying he's got it but have yet to point it out. Other than just stating it.
Simply stating Superman is deep doesn't make it so!
Originally posted by Entity
What I know is that he's a pointless character that is so far beyond unbelievable its unreal, no one with that much power is that much a boyscout except Jesus and God, and all his stories are the same.Same beginning, same middle, same end!
He finds trouble, he starts to get beat, then he decides he has to win and simply wills it so because he quits being a retard with his near limitless power and lack of real weakness and "stops holding back!" 🙄
He gets everything, the fame, the power, the job, the perfect secret life, the fans, the girl, the respect, and what does he EVER lose? ...NOTHING!
He always saves everyone and the only thing he's even got to complain about is how he can't save everyone and how a planet and species he never knew is gone!
Like no one else or other hero has to deal with anything like that. When in fact the are countless that deal with that and so so so so much more.
What is the freaking point to a character with everything that loses nothing except a life he never had and gets unlimited power and a complete lack of weaknesses to compensate?
So please tell me whats deep? Where is this supposed depth you've found that I am apparently obliviously to? You keep saying he's got it but have yet to point it out. Other than just stating it.
Simply stating Superman is deep doesn't make it so!
I personally know Entity and i know for a fact that he has a shit load of superman comics among shit load of other comics and he has read them. so ya'll can just keep saying that if it makes you feel better about yourself. and he is right simply saying superman is "deep" doesnt make him deep where do you get this depth from?? im not a supes hater but i competely understand what he is saying. just bc his opinion is different from yours doesnt make him wrong either btw.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345I hardly even read about Marvel cosmics. Where have I posted in tremdious prase of the cosmics in marvel? Maybe a few things about surfer but even then I don't read allot of him unless its cross overs.
And yet again your wrong,superman does lose,he doesnt save everyone,he doesnt have unlimited power,he has weaknesses,your going an awful long way to proving you dont read any superman comics or if you did it was pre crisis silver age im a god superman cause post crisis supes is nothing like that,you complain about supes yet practically worship marvel characters and dont complain about their boring ass cosmics its very hypocritical.
And if I'm wrong about Supes quit just saying it repeatedly and tell me what are his weaknesses?
Kryptonite? He's all but completely immune now remember?
Magic? All he has to do is over power it with will and appearently he's gaining immunity form it now too.
What powers doesn't he have?
Anything he couldn't already do he's gained at one point or another when he needed it most. And NO I'm not talking about PC Supes, post has too.
T-Vo anyone? The cure all of power limitations. And thats just the worst example there are so many more.
Oh and please tell me, WHEN HAS HE LOST? EVER?
His fight with Doomsday? Oh yea he killed him and return form the dead because of all reasons he refused to stay dead! I wasn't aware anyone had a choice but apparently he has yet that power as well!
Who has he not saved? Can you name a few? Or better yet just 2 or 3!
Or even better just one!
If you can name more than 1 I will be truly shocked. Alica on Smallville is the ONLY one I've ever seen. Not counting his father who died of a heartattack which is just part of life but they don't even add that to the comic.
Smallville Supes is the only one I can even accept because he's not so damned perfect.
Originally posted by primetivaThanks Michelle.
I personally know Entity and i know for a fact that he has a shit load of superman comics among shit load of other comics and he has read them. so ya'll can just keep saying that if it makes you feel better about yourself. and he is right simply saying superman is "deep" doesnt make him deep where do you get this depth from?? im not a supes hater but i competely understand what he is saying. just bc his opinion is different from yours doesnt make him wrong either btw.