Originally posted by guy222
I never said that. I reference my earlier post to all the other SMP threads. The majority he lost to Celestials or Galactus or the Phoenix ForceGalactus is ever at full power. So again, Rachel beat Galactus. All I said
There's no way SMP beats Vulcan Phoenix
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Superman prime could beat that galactus as well,the point is there isnt a point rachael>starving galactus doesnt mean vulcan>sbp.
Ur joking right? Galactus warps entire galaxies,with a fraction of his power he can make a herald that would give SMP a good fight, Galactus would stomp the shit outta SMP, Phoenix would make a gesture and SMP would be dead
Originally posted by Terryc250
Ur joking right? Galactus warps entire galaxies,with a fraction of his power he can make a herald that would give SMP a good fight, Galactus would stomp the shit outta SMP, Phoenix would make a gesture and SMP would be dead
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Weakened galactus like the one dp fought loses to thor and the fantastic four,smp would own that galactus,and rachael phoenix hasnt shown the ability to put smp down either.
This isn't Rachel. It's Vulcan fully bonded with PF (Rachel was aslo, but never could use full PF powers). Everything he did, he did it effortlessly and it was said he would consume the universe.
Has anyone proven that he won't just absorb Marvel primal energy in the way he absorbed the Oan eternal energy of a guardian? Any debate about Superman Prime losing at his present power level is flawed. We don't even know what effect Red Sun energy will have on him now that he is powered up. Prime has become, until he is hurt badly by something in his new "powered up form", at present, a useless character to debate.
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
Has anyone proven that he won't just absorb Marvel primal energy in the way he absorbed the Oan eternal energy of a guardian? Any debate about Superman Prime losing at his present power level is flawed. We don't even know what effect Red Sun energy will have on him now that he is powered up. Prime has become, until he is hurt badly by something in his new "powered up form", at present, a useless character to debate.
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
Has anyone proven that he won't just absorb Marvel primal energy in the way he absorbed the Oan eternal energy of a guardian? Any debate about Superman Prime losing at his present power level is flawed. We don't even know what effect Red Sun energy will have on him now that he is powered up. Prime has become, until he is hurt badly by something in his new "powered up form", at present, a useless character to debate.
Originally posted by Estacado
Agreed.Unless Prime get's beaten by someone he wins this.
So, if it's useless to debate, I guess that you would also say he wouldn't lose against Living Tribunal.
Until someone beats him, we wouldn't know if LT would beat him, right?
Originally posted by Terryc250
Thats some horrible fail logic, squirrel girl never lost to anyone so she can take on the LT right?
Not really Terry, it means limits have to be established before you can debate something. The situations with the Guardian and Mxy and the fact Superboy prime is from "Outside" the previous DC continuity all leads to some interesting problems. In saying a character from another Universe can in anyway defeat him you have to realise he himself is from another Universe before the present one. He defeated the being who ended many Universes in the continuity before last for DC.
It is impossible to argue what he is or isn't capable of. He is in DC terms "from Beyond" the present realities.