Captain America Vs Predator H2H

Started by xmarksthespot5 pages

The point of bulletproof vests is to prevent penetration of bullets, obviously they're not magical force canceling apparel. I just don't see the point of making up some somewhat misleading/hyperbolic term to try and semantically amp CA. Bullets still do their job at penetrating him (kinky vin). I'm relatively certain that Captain America isn't the only one having taken bullets and been able to carry on the good fight. About as certain as I am of if I shot him in the face, heart and nuts with a rifle he'd die from the wounds.

But meh... Huzzah! Emma Frost, in her normal human form has been struck by lightning or similar at least thrice - therefore making her lightning-resistant. 😊

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The point of bulletproof vests is to prevent penetration of bullets, obviously they're not magical force canceling apparel. I just don't see the point of making up some somewhat misleading/hyperbolic term to try and semantically amp CA. Bullets still do their job at penetrating him (kinky vin).

You can still get wounded with a bulletproof vest the extra durability stops you from getting killed. You can even be hospitalised while wearing a bulletproof vest.

Cap gets wounded by bullets but his extra durabilty makes it do less damage.

This is why I say he is bulletproof resistant and not proof. Bullets dont bounce of him hets wounded but it does less damage. The samething can happen with bulletproof vests but it wall vary depending on the firepower and durability.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

I'm relatively certain that Captain America isn't the only one having taken bullets and been able to carry on the good fight.

People have been shot in the head before and survived thats due to luck not extra durability. Hell a man survived falling from a skyscraper on the news. I guess Wolverine doest have superhuman durabiltiy after all.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

About as certain as I am of if I shot him in the face, heart and nuts with a rifle he'd die from the wounds.

hes been shot in the face before and it was stated on panel that his metabolism saved him and not luck. Just because soembody has weak points doesnt mean their not bullet resistant. Obvoulsy some parts of the body are weaker than others.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

But meh... Huzzah! Emma Frost, in her normal human form has been struck by lightning or similar at least thrice - therefore making her lightning-resistant. 😊

You have a 1in 6 chance of dying from lightning not from getting shot. 😐 Surviving lightning is not a big deals as surviving beaing shot.

I know people get wounded through bulletproof vests. 😐
Thus my saying that they don't magically cancel the force of the bullet.

I just really don't see the point of some bizarre misleading term "bullet-resistant" unless one is stretching to give their favorite character superhuman durability as if they're going to power through being riddled with bullets throughout their body.

My example of Emma Frost wasn't about making comparisons in what's more lethal - it was about making up bizarre terms to try and overemphasize durability.

Emma has normal durability.
Captain America has better than normal durability.

I don't see any need to ascribe "-resistant" terms to either of them. But feel free to play your little semantics game. He's probably also shark attack-resistant and blimp collision-resistant while you're at it.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I know people get wounded through bulletproof vests. 😐
Thus my saying that they don't magically cancel the force of the bullet.

I just really don't see the point of some bizarre misleading term "bullet-resistant" unless one is stretching to give their favorite character superhuman durability as if they're going to power through being riddled with bullets throughout their body.

Why would I be trying to do that when I stated that you can still get wounded and hospitalised with a bulletproof vest?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

My example of Emma Frost wasn't about making comparisons in what's more lethal - it was about making up bizarre terms to try and overemphasize durability.

Emma has normal durability.
Captain America has better than normal durability.

I don't see any need to ascribe "-resistant" terms to either of them. But feel free to play your little semantics game. He's probably also shark attack-resistant and blimp collision-resistant while you're at it.

I dont care what it was about. You have a 1 in 6 chance of dying from lightning and she has normal durability, that could explain why she survived. You cant coimpare lightning to being shot.

Is shes survived Hvocks blast and Cykes blast than thats another thing. If she continullay resists energy attacks then shes energy resistant.

Im not playing any semantics. Hell mantis cant KO Thor eventhough her bio states she can and has done it on panel. Hell it states in black and white that Prof X mentally attacked WWH but thats not what happened.

What xmarks think > on panel evidence.

Jean Grey has taken Cyclops optic blast from close range. doped

I guess she's blimp collision-resistant too. vin

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Jean Grey has taken Cyclops optic blast from close range. doped

I guess she's blimp collision-resistant too. vin

What were the circumstances of Cykes blast?

Anyway im also not comparing Caps body to wearing a bulletproof vest but his body being like a bulletproof vest. When a BV gets hit by a bullet it gets dented or embedded. What would happen if it were human flesh? Exactly, but obvoulsy the strength of the substance would reduce the damage.

Simple. 😐

You've seen the scan before yourself, Cyclopalypse to be more precise:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/cycloewresist2.jpg
Jean's expression: 'That hurt a bit, time to get up and chase my crazy possessed husband. I think that's probably blimp collision-resistant worthy, maybe even blimp collision-proof worthy.

And while "norms" may not always die from being electrocuted they generally don't get up and walk around like everything is fine and dandy afterwards... so I think I'm going to start calling Emma electricity-resistant. doped

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You've seen the scan before yourself, Cyclopalypse to be more precise:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/cycloewresist2.jpg
Jean's expression: 'That hurt a bit, time to get up and chase my crazy possessed husband. I think that's probably blimp collision-resistant worthy, maybe even blimp collision-proof worthy.

And while "norms" may not always die from being electrocuted they generally don't get up and walk around like everything is fine and dandy afterwards... so I think I'm going to start calling Emma electricity-resistant. doped

Well if both examples involved them resisting lethal amounts of force and they resist it easily, either its PIS or the have added durability. If you dont want to call it energy resistance be my guest.

The question is though how lethal was the force. Cykes blasts dont even do lethal amounts of damage, sometimes his blast is like a punch.

A normal person can take being electrocuted and act like nothing had happen but that depends on the volts.

Haha! Where is the 'best posts' thread?

'Cyclops' visorless blast is like a punch!'

😆.

Originally posted by Alfheim

The question is though how lethal was the force. Cykes blasts dont even do lethal amounts of damage, SOMETIMES his blast is like a punch.

There was supposed to be an always there. doest always do lethal damage. Cykes blasts power varies.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
capt would competely out fight the pred.
Your an idiot, quit posting.

Are you trying to downplay Jean Grey's collapsing merry-go-round-resistant durability?

I'd wager most "normal people" die after being struck by a lightning bolt like that. 🙂
Emma's still raring to go, conscious, alert, basically uninjured in any real way, able to switch to diamond form before being splattered into a wall.
Go! Go! Lightning-resistance! vin

Must be all the silicone.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Are you trying to downplay Jean Grey's collapsing merry-go-round-resistant durability?

I'd wager most "normal people" die after being struck by a lightning bolt like that. 🙂
Emma's still rearing to go, able to switch to diamond form before being splattered into a wall.
Go! Go! Lightning-resistance! vin

Must be all the silicone.

That could be PIS then, got any other examples of her doing the same thing. 😐

Way back in UXM around the time of her earliest appearances a bloodlusted Storm attacked Emma with lightning.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1984/emma0ty.jpg
Oh look Emma's fine:
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3771/emma28ao.jpg

And then recently in X-Men #200-201, Emma's blasted with an energy attack/biotoxin. The energy attack really doesn't do that much it's the biotoxin that keeps her immobile, although neither renders her unconscious.

The silicone in her breasts must insulate her somehow giving her toaster in bathtub-resistance. doped

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Way back in UXM around the time of her earliest appearances a bloodlusted Storm attacked Emma with lightning.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1984/emma0ty.jpg
Oh look Emma's fine:
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3771/emma28ao.jpg

So you call being dropped to your knees and being too weak to fight back fine? I think Storms lightning power varies just as Cykes blast power varies.

Hell it could be argued that Storm wanted her to suffer and didnt want her to die straight away, hence the strangulation.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

And then recently in X-Men #200-201, Emma's blasted with an energy attack/biotoxin. The energy attack really doesn't do that much it's the biotoxin that keeps her immobile, although neither renders her unconscious.

So basically what you telling me is the energy attack doesnt do that much to people? Its not lethal or anything special like that. Why are you using this as an example?

She was struck by lightning, and for all intents and purposes was uninjured. You asked, I gave.

That was just another example of an electrical attack against her. Bringing it to three. I'd give more but that's as many times as she's been struck by electricity that I can remember - and each time she's been essentially uninjured. Ergo if one were so inclined they could say she's got fork in power socket-resistance or electric eel pond-resistance.

I can't remember. Boredom probably. It's generally my motivation to do things.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She was struck by lightning, and for all intents and purposes was uninjured. You asked, I gave.

That was just another example of an electrical attack against her. Bringing it to three. I'd give more but that's as many times as she's been struck by electricity that I can remember - and each time she's been essentially uninjured.

I can't remember. Boredom probably.

Anyway lets assume each incident was lethal. Right so what you're telling me is that if a characters continually shows that they are durable enough to withstand lethal dosages of energy that they are not energy resistant?

Not really, I think Emma Frost has normal human durability in her human form. I was really just illustrating how silly it is to ascribe "-resistant" terms. I'm pretty sure a lot of heroes would take a cat clawing to the face better than "normal people" but I don't really get the point of calling Hawkeye cat claws to the face-resistant. But that's just me.

Getting shot without body armour >>>>>>>>>>>> get clawed in the face while wearing a mask which has added protection.

Originally posted by Sylar
Your an idiot, quit posting.

lol im an idiot becuase I believe the faster more skilled opponet with out fight the slower less skilled opponet.