Originally posted by Burning thoughtI know that. But Beyonder was the closest thing to TOAA himself.
in Marvelverse, Ominpotence is weaker than most actually, considering in Marvel there are many levels of omnipotence, which is why LT is called ominpotent, but it cannot defeat TOAA everoh and Merry Xmas 😄
Originally posted by Burning thoughtHEY!!! Beyonder is a real character! He's not like the LT, just a big queer yellow guy who sits with no emotion and does nothing.
hmm indeed so i imagine, but i never read his comics, all i know is that i dislike omnipotent multverse destroying beings in the face of real characters
You like Mad Jim Jaspers, that guy is capable of causing chaos on an Omniversal scale.
You know what we should do? Go to the comicbook tiers section and vote on LT for Low Street.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
HEY!!! Beyonder is a real character! He's not like the LT, just a big queer yellow guy who sits with no emotion and does nothing.You like Mad Jim Jaspers, that guy is capable of causing chaos on an Omniversal scale.
You know what we should do? Go to the comicbook tiers section and vote on LT for Low Street.
why lol....that wouldnt work
Originally posted by Classic NES
It's still leagues above fate.
whats this supposed to mean? your not still trying to gnaw at the Beyonder could destroy Nosgoth bone, he cant, its a rule slapped down by a TOAAlike being, whicn is still a fiction rule that can be used in debates, which means Beyonder can do jack diddly
Originally posted by Classic NES
Read the rule and it mentions nothing about nosgoth being indestructible. It just has an immutable timeline. Infact, Nosgoth was decaying when the pillars were destroyed.
yes it does have an immutable timeline....which is my point, Beyonder is neither in its time line nor does Nosgoth as far as we know ever blow...so it wont blow...
Originally posted by Burning thought1. Beyonder doesn't act cocky, he is interested in the Multiverse he was unaware of. He expresses boredom when weaker beings try to confront him(the X-Men), because he knows he is more powerful, he knew he was more powerful than the entire Pantheon, and he was right. He is not overconfident or cocky. MJJ is a lunatic with greater power than all but like....a handful of people in Marvel. If he was allowed to live, he WOULD have cause Omniversal chaos. Oh, and disco suit>Gentleman's suit.
if you say so, but hes tooo powerful, i like MJJ because he doent seem cocky, hes mad, he looks like a old fashioned gentlemen most of the time which is an interesting design but he doesnt destroy omniverses and multiverses and cause dimensional collapse just by thinking too hard on somethingwhy lol....that wouldnt work
2. If we got three people to say it. 😉
Originally posted by Classic NES
Of course he's not in his timeline, but fir the sake of debate if he were he could change it. If the pillars could effect Nosgoth, So, could beyonder who is more powerful.
well maybe, if he was in their time line Maybe he could but thats speculation as much as me saying kain will get an uber reaver spell that can kill beyonder with a shot
but the real thing he isnt in the timeline so he could do nothing
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Beyonder doesn't act cocky, he is interested in the Multiverse he was unaware of. He expresses boredom when weaker beings try to confront him(the X-Men), because he knows he is more powerful, he knew he was more powerful than the entire Pantheon, and he was right. He is not overconfident or cocky. MJJ is a lunatic with greater power than all but like....a handful of people in Marvel. If he was allowed to live, he WOULD have cause Omniversal chaos. Oh, and disco suit>Gentleman's suit.2. If we got three people to say it. 😉
1. pff Gentlemens suit is much more awsome, it shows that the guy doesnt care about looking good because he is so powerful he does not care, wheras Beyonder likes that suit
2. meh lol i cant imagine it working but maybe, in the comic book vs enough people can change the rules
If were debating Beyonder vs Nosgoth, how could he not be in their Timeline for the sake of debate?
And, that's not the same as saying kain can kill beyonder. Because the reaver has never demonstrated anything on par with the Beyonder or capable of killing him. Beyonder transcends conceptual beings like death, So, how can he even die?
Originally posted by Classic NES
If were debating Beyonder vs Nosgoth, how could he not be in their Timeline for the sake of debate?And, that's not the same as saying kain can kill beyonder. Because the reaver has never demonstrated anything on par with the Beyonder or capable of killing him. Beyonder transcends conceptual beings like death, So, how can he even die?
maybe he could for the sake of debate, but for the sake of debate i could bring in many things randomly like Kain with a beyonder destroying weapon, but i was talking in reality, Beyonder could not take the fiction of Nosgoth, only in a KMC debate with special rules from the thread starter such as Beyonder being in their timeline could he do anything
so, the beyonder has never overruled a rule set down by his own writers either, nor another, yet you assume he could do it to Nosgoth, its just as far fetched. And infact Kain imo has more likelyness, Beyonder has tonnes of power, but Kain has gone from a young vampire who can throw knights around with one hand to a deified emperor of Nosgoth with powers over time, dimension, nature etc etc who cannot die either, also theres always ways for beings to be defeated or maybe even killed even if they do trancend death, like deleted from excistence for one matter, imagining in the future of nosgoth Beyonder will attack it is impossible but for debating standards, were looking to the future, of things we dont know, considering Kain evolved every 100 years or so, maybe less and has gained so many varities of power, he can already warp reality, for all anyone knows he could get all sorts of things.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Beyonder has power over souls as well.Oh and BT, people voted Darkseid, a high level Skyfather character, to Transcendant. So I don't see why we can't put LT on Low Street. We just need one more person. mmm
so? lol but can i see him manip souls for the fun of it plz?
rly? hehe maybe, but i cant see us having a chance with all the marvel fanboys, altho they put Dante mid herald so we may succeed
Once again BT, your logic is completely backwards. Kain has never shown anything on Beyonders level and we would never make some shit up for kain just for a versus. There is no rule that says you can pull something random just for debate.
The writers are irrelevant because no such rule exsist. Nowhere does it state that Nosgoth is indestructible, otherwise how would Nosgoth be decaying after the destruction of the pillars. Only thing it says is that History is immuatable, meaning you cannot alter evebts due to time travel.
Originally posted by Classic NES
Once again BT, your logic is completely backwards. Kain has never shown anything on Beyonders level and we would never make some shit up for kain just for a versus. There is no rule that says you can pull something random just for debate.The writers are irrelevant because no such rule exsist. Nowhere does it state that Nosgoth is indestructible, otherwise how would Nosgoth be decaying after the destruction of the pillars. Only thing it says is that History is immuatable, meaning you cannot alter evebts due to time travel.
Burning Thought reaches to the far extent of all Legacy of Kain characters 🙂
For example, if they have been seen touching the soul of an entity, they can absorb the soul of any character in the gaming world.
Originally posted by Classic NES
Once again BT, your logic is completely backwards. Kain has never shown anything on Beyonders level and we would never make some shit up for kain just for a versus. There is no rule that says you can pull something random just for debate.The writers are irrelevant because no such rule exsist. Nowhere does it state that Nosgoth is indestructible, otherwise how would Nosgoth be decaying after the destruction of the pillars. Only thing it says is that History is immuatable, meaning you cannot alter evebts due to time travel.
then you cant pull something as random as beyonder overpowering a TOAA rule
you cannot alter events, events are already written in the wheel of fate....and only through a "random rule" that you mentsion above can Beyonder take on Nosgoth.....simple...
Originally posted by Lady Fox
Burning Thought reaches to the far extent of all Legacy of Kain characters 🙂For example, if they have been seen touching the soul of an entity, they can absorb the soul of any character in the gaming world.
Fuddle you dont even rly know LOK, so i wouldnt try and step into things ,you overhype warcraft characters to the furthest reaches however
yes, if a character has no soul resistence, and a character can take souls without known limits, then the opponents soul can be captured, theres no way to debate around it, just because in your opinion your character is so powerful he "must" have immunity or resistence to survive this doesnt make it true 🙂
Originally posted by Classic NES
The rule only pertains too changing history, that's it. Furthermore, It doesn't account for beyonder or his power.
and beyonders power does not account for the rule created by a TOAA/Writer.......Beyonder may be powerful, but he cannot break a rule created by the writers themselves, from the writers, if it wasnt a direct rule for the fiction and was an effect created by a Wizard or someone in Nosgoth id concede but its not, this rule cannot be broken
Originally posted by Burning thought
Fuddle you dont even rly know LOK, so i wouldnt try and step into things ,you overhype warcraft characters to the furthest reaches howeveryes, if a character has no soul resistence, and a character can take souls without known limits, then the opponents soul can be captured, theres no way to debate around it, just because in your opinion your character is so powerful he "must" have immunity or resistence to survive this doesnt make it true 🙂
When have I overhyped a warcraft character?
I do not know LoK, but I know logic. I read the Pyron, Sargeras, Kain, KOS-MOS bla bla thread, where you more or less claimed that Kain one shot each and every one of them. I may not know the characters very well, but I know when someone is trying to reach beyond the extent of a character.
Pyron for example: He is an elemental. Has Kain ever drained the soul of an elemental?
Sargeras for example: Has Kain ever sliced trough an indestructable body? More importantly, has he ever drained the soul from someone of Sargeras calibur in warlock magic?