Ness vs Mew(two)

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
And your problem is that you're basing everything only on what you've seen, which makes it impossible to debate a completely hypothetical match. Debate using more logical deductions.

Stating that Mewtwo can simply make Ness's head explode when he has never shown that he could inflict such damage on another psychic, or anyone for that matter, isn't exactly sound debating.

Turning Ness to stone (with Mew's help, no less) is more acceptable.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
[B]If a character has never displayed such an ability, there's no reason to believe that he or she possesses it. It's not impossible at all.

Stating that Mewtwo can simply make Ness's head explode when he has never shown that he could inflict such damage on another psychic, or anyone for that matter, isn't exactly sound debating.

Stating that Ness can create a Psi-Shield that will block Mew-Two's attack when he has never done so isn't sound debating, then, is it?

I guess this is a stalemate then, as by your logic neither can hurt each other, because they've never been shown to hurt each other before.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Stating that Ness can create a Psi-Shield that will block Mew-Two's attack when he has never done so isn't sound debating, then, is it?

I guess this is a stalemate then, as by your logic neither can hurt each other, because they've never been shown to hurt each other before.

Now, if you can just cite Mewtwo exploding anyone's brain (not Ness's, anyone's, even a non-psychic,) your argument will be 100% valid. Or maybe 50-75%

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
No, but stating that he has created psychic shields that deflect psychic attacks works fine.

But he hasn't done it against Mew-Two. As such, it'd be perfectly reasonable to say he can't do it. Don't you think so?

Now, if you can just cite Mewtwo exploding anyone's brain (not Ness's, anyone's, even a non-psychic,) your argument will be 100% valid.

In the comic, with a casual flick of his hand he crushed a boulder into dust. Logic dictates that if he could do it to a boulder then he could do it to a soft, fleshy person.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
But he hasn't done it against Mew-Two. As such, it'd be perfectly reasonable to say he can't do it. Don't you think so?

In the comic, with a casual flick of his hand he crushed a boulder into dust. Logic dictates that if he could do it to a boulder then he could do it to a soft, fleshy person.

You're doing better, but isn't that an A>B>C argument?

Nevertheless, Ness isn't a defenseless rock.

So, manga is canon for the purposes of this debate?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Read my prior statement. Identity is irrelevant.

I wasn't aware you were the authority on what is relevant and what's not.

You're doing better, but isn't that an A>B>C argument?

No.

Nevertheless, Ness isn't a defenseless rock.

So?

So, the Manga is canon for the purposes of this debate?

'it's not the manga. As far as Canon is concerned, it's similar to the Halo novels.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
I wasn't aware you were the authority on what is relevant and what's not.

No.

So?

'it's not the manga. As far as Canon is concerned, it's similar to the Halo novels.

If I were, I'd say "it's irrelevant because I say so," or something to that effect.

Ness=C, Rock=B, Mewtwo=A?

I guess you didn't get the jist of what I'm saying. Unlike a rock, Ness can defend himself from psychic attacks.

Edit: A Japanese comic is more commonly known as manga. Or is it American?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I'm not. 🙁

If I were, I'd say "it's irrelevant because I say so," or something to that effect.

*points and laughs*

Ness=C, Rock=B, Mewtwo=A?

No. It would only be an A>B>C argument if I had said that because Mew-two beat a rock he could beat Ness. I was simply giving an example of Mew-Two crushing something using his powers.

I guess you didn't get the jist of what I'm saying. Unlike a rock, Ness can defend himself from psychic attacks.

I got the gist.

For the record, manga is more commonly known as a japanese comic.

I am aware, but it's not Japanese. It was made by Nintendo of America I think.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
*points and laughs*

No. It would only be an A>B>C argument if I had said that because Mew-two beat a rock he could beat Ness. I was simply giving an example of Mew-Two crushing something using his powers.

I got the gist.

I am aware, but it's not Japanese. It was made by Nintendo of America I think.

schmoll

Instead, you directly implied that Mewtwo can crush Ness because he crushed a rock.

*gist.

A japanese comic translated to english is still Manga. Not if it was made by NOA though. Then it's a comic.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
[B]Instead, you directly implied that Mewtwo can crush Ness because he crushed a rock.

But that's not an A>B>C argument. I didn't say he could beat him because of it.

A japanese comic translated to english is still Manga.

I already knew that 😬

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
But that's not an A>B>C argument. I didn't say he could beat him because of it.

I already knew that 😬

I'm pretty sure crushing Ness would defeat him. 😬

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
But look at the implication of your words.

I'm pretty sure crushing Ness would defeat him. 😬

What you think I implied doesn't matter.

Relevance?

think is TK is mind not physical. Unless Ness has a telepathical barrier i dont see why cant mew two crush ness body. Since Boulder material is more durable than flesh

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
What you think I implied doesn't matter.

Relevance?

Maybe I missed what you were saying. Were you implying something else?

Originally posted by Csdabest
think is TK is mind not physical. Unless Ness has a telepathical barrier i dont see why cant mew two crush ness body. Since Boulder material is more durable than flesh

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
But look at the implication of your words.

I'm pretty sure crushing Ness would defeat him. 😬

There we have it then. Mewtwo creates a barrier around Ness. He then lands a building/huge rock/heavy object upon him. Since Ness needs to move to teleport, it will not work and Ness is a squished felshling.

Originally posted by Lady Fox
There we have it then. Mewtwo creates a barrier around Ness. He then lands a building/huge rock/heavy object upon him. Since Ness needs to move to teleport, it will not work and Ness is a squished felshling.

In-game, when Ness is teleporting, time temporarily stops for everything around him, except for someone who's he's teleporting with him.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Or Ness could effortlessly shield himself from being crushed by the building/huge rock/heavy object, and counterattack with PSI Flash, possibly disabling Mewtwo's psychic abilities or instantly defeating him.

In-game, when Ness is teleporting, time temporarily stops for everything around him, except for someone who's he's teleporting with him.

I have formerly only discussed movie/serie Mewtwo. Do not make me bring gameplay Mewtwo all over you 😉

Originally posted by Lady Fox
I have formerly only discussed movie/serie Mewtwo. Do not make me bring gameplay Mewtwo all over you 😉

I've played plenty of Pokemon, and Mewtwo is one of my favorites. I know what Mewtwo is capable of in gameplay. He has the second highest Special Attack of any known Pokemon, and probably 10th-20th in speed.

I know he's a beast, but the main reason I joined in on this thread is because I don't think Ness is getting the respect he's due. No one here seems to know a lot about him, so some say Mewtwo wins by default, and the others who support Ness really don't know why.

I believe that either could win, but featwise I say Ness has an edge in power.

Mewtwo does a uber PSI attack on Ness, Ness uses PSI Counter which backfires the assault on Mewtwo with kills him.
Ness wins.

Isnt Ness that character in Super Smash brothers O.o. I dont know ho he is really. Never heard of him outside of Supersmash. j.p