Originally posted by golem370
What if the predators are elder predators and not just your everyday Predators.
Please make them Elder, obvoulsy they are tougher but how much tougher.
Originally posted by golem370
Those weapons they pull out then shake and it unfolds are the weapons
Ok thats much better they defintenly need some ranged attack. By the way roughly how many of are there on the other side. I estimated something like 500,000.
Originally posted by Newjak
I know about the Spartans.I was just affirming that any organized Pred's even in a circle will be harder to break than the 300 were.
They certainly will be, but the Predators won't be defensive waiting for attacks. They will be offensive like they always are, and that will leave them open to attacks.
Originally posted by Newjak
The Pred's have every advantage in this match except for numbers.
Agree.
Originally posted by Newjak
I don't even think they will lose a Pred until they tire a lot and by then wave after wave of the Army will be dead.
That's giving the Predators way too much credit. Using the weapons they have been given, they are going to suffer casualties at all stages of the fight, including the beginning. There's just too many enemies for them not to.
Originally posted by golem370
I have no idea all I know there was 10,000 at the deep
Ok good if you could give us a roguh figure because that helps give some idea of the odds. For example if all the Prdators threw there spears at the enemy they could possibly kill 2000 of the enemy.....etcetc
Originally posted by golem370
Well there maybe not tougher but smarter more skilled and have more experienced.
Ok think we might stick with the younger ones then....at any case the younger ones are good enough especillay if youi give them the throwing stars that will make one hell of a difference.
Aliens can go on the frontline, as soon as the enemy find out they are acidic all hell is going to lose. The Predators stand behind the alliens throwing the stars. The combination of the aliens and the stars will create huge losses. Even if they lose the stars then can stab at the enemy from behind the aliens.
Hell even before the aliens reach the enemy the pred can use the stars to launch a long ranga attack.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok thats much better they defintenly need some ranged attack. By the way roughly how many of are there on the other side. I estimated something like 500,000.
There were about 10,000 Uruk-Hai at Helm's Deep, about 250-300,000 orcs and trolls at Pelennor Fields, and around 60,000 orcs and trolls at the Black Gate.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
There were about 10,000 Uruk-Hai at Helm's Deep, about 250-300,000 orcs and trolls at Pelennor Fields, and around 60,000 orcs and trolls at the Black Gate.
At any rate we got 300, 000 for our exact figure. Can anyone confirm wether the orcs were fearless because fear will be an important factor. When they find out that the aliens are acidic this will cause chaos. Hell even if they get suqished by an elephant the elphant will retreat when they feel the acid. the odds are 300 to 1 though.
Originally posted by celestialdemonThat's giving the Predators way too much credit. Using the weapons they have been given, they are going to suffer casualties at all stages of the fight, including the beginning. There's just too many enemies for them not to.
Heres how I plan the battle:
Charge the enemy. Aliens in front Preds at back before you are in striking distance throw your stars, several thousand will probably die befroe you reach them. When you finally reach them the aliens with the sheer ferocity wil scare the soldiers as well as when they find out they are acidic, this will cause chaos in the rank. The only problem with this is that certain types of orcs actually seem fearless and even if they are getting cut down by acid fear wont mopve them back but pain will. While the aliens are cutting a path through the enmy the preds keep throxing the stars. What happen is that the aliens and pred aremy become like a massive lawn mower.
Originally posted by Alfheim
At any rate we got 300, 000 for our exact figure. Can anyone confirm wether the orcs were fearless because fear will be an important factor. When they find out that the aliens are acidic this will cause chaos. Hell even if they get suqished by an elephant the elphant will retreat when they feel the acid. the odds are 300 to 1 though.Heres how I plan the battle:
Charge the enemy. Aliens in front Preds at back before you are in striking distance throw your stars, several thousand will probably die befroe you reach them. When you finally reach them the aliens with the sheer ferocity wil scare the soldiers as well as when they find out they are acidic, this will cause chaos in the rank. The only problem with this is that certain types of orcs actually seem fearless and even if they are getting cut down by acid fear wont mopve them back but pain will. While the aliens are cutting a path through the enmy the preds keep throxing the stars. What happen is that the aliens and pred aremy become like a massive lawn mower.
I still don't see it being enough to take on an army of this size.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
I still don't see it being enough to take on an army of this size.
They have a speed advantage as well. Preds are many times faster than well trained humans. They could literially run circles around the enemy throwing stars at them. Until the army is small enough to engage.
I also think something like this happened in histroy 200, 000 Celts took on something like 20, 0000 or 2000 Romans. The Romans put up a barrier, used their shields as portection and slashed at the celts and marched forward. The Celts at the front ended up getting crushed because people at the front were dying and the Romans kept marching forward.
The only problem is that the battle took back in rekativelly narrow envinronment not an open field like this battle.
Originally posted by Alfheim
They have a speed advantage as well. Preds are many times faster than well trained humans. They could literially run circles around the enemy throwing stars at them. Until the army is small enough to engage.
According to golem, he's giving them 3 stars each, so they can't keep circling them. Even if they didn't run out, 2,000 can't circle 300,000 without being EXTREMELY thinned out.
Originally posted by Alfheim
I also think something like this happened in histroy 200, 000 Celts took on something like 20, 0000 or 2000 Romans. The Romans put up a barrier, used their shields as portection and slashed at the celts and marched forward. The Celts at the front ended up getting crushed because people at the front were dying and the Romans kept marching forward.The only problem is that the battle took back in rekativelly narrow envinronment not an open field like this battle.
If this was a narrow passage, then I don't doubt the Predators could kill every single one of these guys. But in an open field, it's not happening.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
According to golem, he's giving them 3 stars each, so they can't keep circling them. Even if they didn't run out, 2,000 can't circle 300,000 without being EXTREMELY thinned out.
Yeah but the stars are like bommerangs.
Originally posted by celestialdemonIf this was a narrow passage, then I don't doubt the Predators could kill every single one of these guys. But in an open field, it's not happening.
Yeah I know.......I think the number should be increased to 10.000. I really really wanna give it to the preds but deep down inside my mind tells me its just not happening.
So Preds get their hunting spears, 3 throwing starts each, and their arm blades(wolverine like) ? What about their nets?
If they were experianced preds or elders they might stand a chance.
Aliens are frontline bricks. When killed would still take out an ork or 2 with their acid.
Should have added face huggers as well. TroLiens? DragonLiens? EliPhantLiens?
Orcs would likely disperse, urakai unlikely disperse but Orcs, they are cowardly critters, they would end up fleeing and their ranks would break up, also numbers dont always win, not even these huge numbers, i think preds and aliens take this with ease now ime looking at things
preds with their high tech weapons would slash right through the ranks of the orcs like a hot knife through butter, their terribly equiped, since all they have is numbers and this will not count for much considering half the orcs wil start to retreat or regroup elsware