Stallone should have ended the Rocky movies with Rocky 3

Started by §P0oONY5 pages

Anyone who dislikes any of the Rocky films (including 5) isn't worth their weight in salt. They're all fantastic for their own reasons:

Rocky - A truly great film, easily the best underdog tale in cinema history. Gripping drama and an adrenalin pumping finish.

Rocky II - Essentially The Godfather Part II of the Rocky franchise, arguably as good as the first. Rocky in the space of a couple of hours makes himself into an underdog again and then gets the ultimate reward leaving any viewer satisfied.

Rocky III - This is where my main issue with the thread starts, you claim that Rocky IV was unrealistic and that it should have ended with III, however what the hell was realistic about Rocky III? This is one of (if not) my least favourite of the series but I'd still watch it any time. It's all about the eye of the tiger and Clubber Lang.

Rocky IV - Easily one of the most entertaining Rocky films out there and for completely different reasons to the first. This film is all about the action; the montage king. 2 quality training montages and the other one that reminisces over previous endeavours. It all gets you pumped up for the big fight against the evil, steroid using, comic book villain. Mix all this with the series' best soundtrack and you've got yourself a delicious Rocky pudding. If you're a hater, you're watching it for the wrong reasons.

Rocky V - Time to get controversial. I see this film as an after dinner mint. You've just had a satisfying meal but there's always room for that wafur theen mint. It compliments the other Rocky films well. Rocky get's taken back to his roots and you get the pleasure of seeing him remember it. This film would probably be better if it wasn't about fighting at all, with Tommy Gunn taking a long walk off a short pier. But a few choice performances and touching moments more than make up for it's flaws. The credits alone make the film worth watching (and not because it's the end of the film)... Pictures from films past, with "The measure of a man" playing... brilliant.

Rocky Balboa - Simply a fantastic addition... Probably the most true to the original. Get's you rooting for Rocky. Questionable editing, with a couple of choice scenes missing the final cut. But a great film... It's almost too realistic though. Mason Dixon is just too real.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Anyone who dislikes any of the Rocky films (including 5) isn't worth their weight in salt. They're all fantastic for their own reasons:

Rocky - A truly great film, easily the best underdog tale in cinema history. Gripping drama and an adrenalin pumping finish.

Rocky II - Essentially The Godfather Part II of the Rocky franchise, arguably as good as the first. Rocky in the space of a couple of hours makes himself into an underdog again and then gets the ultimate reward leaving any viewer satisfied.

Rocky III - This is where my main issue with the thread starts, you claim that Rocky IV was unrealistic and that it should have ended with III, however what the hell was realistic about Rocky III? This is one of (if not) my least favourite of the series but I'd still watch it any time. It's all about the eye of the tiger and Clubber Lang.

Rocky IV - Easily one of the most entertaining Rocky films out there and for completely different reasons to the first. This film is all about the action; the montage king. 2 quality training montages and the other one that reminisces over previous endeavours. It all gets you pumped up for the big fight against the evil, steroid using, comic book villain. Mix all this with the series' best soundtrack and you've got yourself a delicious Rocky pudding. If you're a hater, you're watching it for the wrong reasons.

Rocky V - Time to get controversial. I see this film as an after dinner mint. You've just had a satisfying meal but there's always room for that wafur theen mint. It compliments the other Rocky films well. Rocky get's taken back to his roots and you get the pleasure of seeing him remember it. This film would probably be better if it wasn't about fighting at all, with Tommy Gunn taking a long walk off a short pier. But a few choice performances and touching moments more than make up for it's flaws. The credits alone make the film worth watching (and not because it's the end of the film)... Pictures from films past, with "The measure of a man" playing... brilliant.

Rocky Balboa - Simply a fantastic addition... Probably the most true to the original. Get's you rooting for Rocky. Questionable editing, with a couple of choice scenes missing the final cut. But a great film... It's almost too realistic though. Mason Dixon is just too real.

I agree for the most part. I definitely agree that "3" was not all that great, and I was definitely taken out of the movie by Hulk Hogan (I can't get over how random and useless that scene it). The fight scenes themselves weren't all that great, and the final match was actually pretty awful and rushed. Still, what saves it is Clubber Lang, who's one of the best movie villains out there, and Apollo became an even better character. The training montage was great as well.

I totally agree with "Rocky IV," and what pushes it to one of my favorite movies ever is its heart. It's flat out insane, but believes in what it is and takes no shame in the movie. It was so much fun, freakishly inspirational, and just a damn good time.

"Rocky V" had a few good moments, but in general I completely disagree. To me it was unbelievably terrible.

Originally posted by K J H
I think it should of ended at Rocky 4 which is my favorite one ive seen

R 5 once years ago and will never watch it again

Rocky 1 to 4 awesome films

That should read Rocky 1 to 3 awesome films.geez WHY cant people read through the reasons why those movies were horrible,not to toot my own horn but -to which I documented well in the first paragraph instead of just looking at the title of the thread? 😠

It amazes me the Rocky 4 apologists reasons they grasp at in their desperate attempts to try and prove they werent horrible.I have heard everything on from the most absurd of how when I pointed out Appollo in rocky 3 said -Man that Clubbers strong.we got to put him away early.I figure with Clubbers strength and Rockys stamina he has,Rocky can last about 6 or 7 rounds,8 at the most.We got to put him away early.which rocky did cause he could not take Clubbers pounding for more than 8 rounds. Yet he survives the pounding of Drago for 15 rounds.a boxer 10 times stronger than Clubber Lang. one person even made up the absurd saying that his steroids wore off after the first 5 rounds or so.something they have no proof of. 😆

Or when i pointed out the crowd would never have come over to rockys side like they did someone said that it was realistic because of how Drago acted like a jerk in that fight. what? according to THAT logic of theirs,they should have hated him from the beginning and wanted rocky to win because he was a much bigger jerk with appolo saying-If he dies,he dies.not even caring if he died. after all,those russian people DID know about his fight with appollo and him saying that. 😆 it just cracks me up the extremes people will go to to try and get around those reasons I pointed out on why it is so horrible. 😆

I don't know what all the fuss is about! The entire Rocky series was awesome!! Rocky IV was one of the better movies to me if you ask. The story line may not have been as well written as the previous movies, but the final fight was awesome. The punishment in all the films that the fighters took would have been enough to call the fight, so when we talk about what would have happened in real life and what would not have happened, the argument falls on deaf ears for each of the previous 3 films. RockyIV was rocky at his prime, the recognized American champion fighting a war that could have been fought between millions of ppl, so the significance out weights any reality argument posed toward the movie.

Also, your assumption that the crowd in Rocky IV would not have joined sides with Rocky is as absurd as the other arguments made by others as you cannot speak for other ppl that were there if this was a real situation. It is called inspiration. They didn't cheer for him just to cheer for him, they cheered because this guy represented the spirit of life that each of us has as he took that tremendous beating. It represented how the memory of someone that has passed away that taught us things to help us survive in life, can carry over into us being successful and overcoming obstacles in our present life. Clubber was strong!! But Rocky beat him in the 2nd round. Apollos statement was from his perspective on things. That in no way shape or form represented what Rocky was capable of. The training session that Rocky under went in Rocky IV was significant also. He basically prepared for the beating he was about to take. Doing everything out in the cold, running up mountains etc.. In the cold, its a bit harder to breathe, so undergoing that intense training was key. I only get 4 and 1/2 hours of sleep a night with school and work. Who would thing that I would even be remotely capable of functioning the following day while only getting that much sleep.

Rocky 5 was hey, forget the training, how old the dude is and all that. What makes Rocky go!! Adrian said it, "you beat them with heart, not muscle. And that's what Mickey knew, that's what made you and Mickey special." Dude, Rocky had a gift, and it was evident not only in his winning fights, but HIS CHARACTER!! (which is also the case in Rocky Balboa). You guys are absolutely missing the point of the movies I believe from the first installment onward. The fight scene in Rocky 5 was awesome, the music was awesome. in Rocky Balboa, didn't know if he was gonna die, if he was gonna win, or what. This was appealing to me, and he would have won again in those last moments or fought to the end if it wasn't for the bell. If you noticed he was the last one to land a punch!!

I guess you are right that he should have finished at number 3. Having said that the 4th was wonderful entertainment. Yes! It did stretch the credibility but superb music and scenes like Rocky training in the wilds were amazing.

The director realised he made a nistake with Rocky 5. There's actually an interview with him where he said he'd rate it a 0/10.
I think Rocky Balboa was a huge improvement. I've never seen it, but I've heard it bassically pretends Rocky 5 never happened.