Originally posted by Man of Christ
Yes Palpatine would have no way of knowing about or preventing the death stars destruction. remember palpatine is only a politician, vader is the military leader thus palp would be dead too. either from the death stars destruction or a force strangle from an enraged vader
A debate is at least about arguments that can be supported by evidence. You make statements here that are contradictory to statements made by the characters and causal relations that make no sense:
1. You claim Palpy had no ability to see the future - that is WRONG, it wasn't perfect but he could forsee events. He said so and Yoda supported taht by saying that :through the Force things you will see, the future, the past". There's no reason to believe Palpy couldn't do taht either.
2. Palpy was noy JUST a politician. He was a ruling Sith dictator with supernatural powers
3. Just because Vader would die, wouldn't mean by his death alone that Palpy would die too. Had Vader lived longer, he would have survived the DS just like Luke did
4. You assume that Vader would be stronger than Palpy killing him with a Force choke, yet Vader said himself to Luke that he didn't understand the power of the Dark Side. That suggests Palpy had a hold over Vader that superceded Anakin's powers.
Enough debate? Then again, anyone who watches these movies already concluded your statement didn't make any sense.
Originally posted by queeq
A debate is at least about arguments that can be supported by evidence. You make statements here that are contradictory to statements made by the characters and causal relations that make no sense:1. You claim Palpy had no ability to see the future - that is WRONG, it wasn't perfect but he could forsee events. He said so and Yoda supported taht by saying that :through the Force things you will see, the future, the past". There's no reason to believe Palpy couldn't do taht either.
2. Palpy was noy JUST a politician. He was a ruling Sith dictator with supernatural powers
3. Just because Vader would die, wouldn't mean by his death alone that Palpy would die too. Had Vader lived longer, he would have survived the DS just like Luke did
4. You assume that Vader would be stronger than Palpy killing him with a Force choke, yet Vader said himself to Luke that he didn't understand the power of the Dark Side. That suggests Palpy had a hold over Vader that superceded Anakin's powers.Enough debate? Then again, anyone who watches these movies already concluded your statement didn't make any sense.
lmao.. are you high?
siddious isnt omnicient. im sure your great sith leader foresaw the destruction of the deathstar when he wad talkin all that trash to luke saying that the rebellion would be crushed. but guess what..
bottom line. he said he was going to live but ended up dying
Re: What if Sid never went nuclear...
Originally posted by K-Dog
It obviously never happened, but what would have happened if Sid finished frying Luke? Would vader have had to pick up the body and throw it down the shaft? Would Sid have allowed Vader to remain a sith, after he just got beaten down by a jedi? If not, would Sid fry Vader? If so, would he try to go get princess leia for a apprentice? If not, who else?
I think you're looking way too seriously into an 80's sci-fi movie that has a guy shooting electricty out of his fingers.