Storm vs. Enchantress

Started by Eternal Idol15 pages
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Explain.

There's a very good reason why that chart stops at Category F5.... BECAUSE F5'S ARE THE MOST INTENSE A TORNADO HAS EVER BEEN WITNESSED. Any category higher than F5 is THEORETICAL.

Rutog and 2damn, you both have been asked nicely by other mods and in some cases warned to show ON PANEL/CANON proof to back your claims. Spamming up the threads with nonsensical hyperbole that's not canon or one time showing which were either retconned or never duplicated is against the rules. Please stop. Thank you.

Eternal Idol, please don't bash them with 2damn (insert unflattering adjective). Thanks.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Explain.

Fujita never bothered to extend his examples beyond F5 which he gave the extremely open-ended classification of "incredible damage" which seems to imply that he could not find natural examples beyond that.

And secondly he uses the speed of sound at -3C which odd at the very least. In the Earth's atmosphere, the speed varies with atmospheric conditions; the most important factor is the temperature. Since temperature and sound speed normally decrease with increasing altitude, sound is refracted upward, away from listeners on the ground, creating an acoustic shadow at some distance from the source. Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! Air pressure has almost no effect on sound speed. It has no effect at all in an ideal gas approximation, because pressure and density both contribute to sound velocity equally, and in an ideal gas the two effects cancel out, leaving only the effect of temperature. Sound usually travels more slowly with greater altitude, due to reduced temperature, creating a negative sound speed gradient. In the stratosphere, the speed of sound increases with height due to heating within the ozone layer, producing a positive sound speed gradient.

Not to mention you failed to make an actual point which implies that you wanted to spout bullshit that has nothing to do with the point. The existence of the Fujita scale doesn't say anything about what Storm can do. The fact that he stopped giving examples at F5 says he found a limit to what was present in nature.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
There's a very good reason why that chart stops at Category F5.... BECAUSE F5'S ARE THE MOST INTENSE A TORNADO HAS EVER BEEN WITNESSED. Any category higher than F5 is THEORETICAL.

No, it stops because the Fujita scale is an estimate of winds speed based on observable damage.

You can't get any more powerful that total destruction(an F5) where houses are wiped clean from the foundation, straw in brick, wood through brick etc.

It does not mean that winds greater than the estimated do not exist. hence why there is an F6 tornado with wins from 320-the speed of sound, though it is said it is unlikely to occur.

The fujita scale, like with most science, is theorectical.

Anyway, Storm is a mutant who controls the weather with her mind. Her limit is not based on real world science, though real world science is used to limit her(pure hate).

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The fujita scale like with science is theorectical.

The Fujita scale beyond F5 is conjectural not theoretical.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Anyway, Storm is a mutant who controls the weather with her mind. Her limit is not based on real world science, though real world science is used to limit her(pure hate)

"Real world science" is also the "basis" for the wide variety of "cosmic powers" you say "she" has.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The Fujita scale beyond F5 is conjectural not theoretical.

Theory involves conjecture.😬

The whole scale is theoretical since it goes off INDIRECT things like damage.

"Real world science" is also the "basis" for the wide variety of "cosmic powers" you say "she" has.

I state nothing but canon, sorry.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Theory involves conjecture.😬

In science they are completely different things.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The whole scale is theoretical since it goes off INDIRECT things like damage.

The scale up to F5 is actually based off of something (damage). Beyond that it is nothing but Fujita's conjecture.

Again, this has nothing to do with Storm.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I state nothing but canon, sorry.

That Fujita Scale is a panel from Marvel Comics?

Fail 🙄

Sorry, Bada.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
No, it stops because the Fujita scale is an estimate of winds speed based on observable damage.

You can't get any more powerful that total destruction(an F5) where houses are wiped clean from the foundation, straw in brick, wood through brick etc.

It does not mean that winds greater than the estimated do not exist. hence why there is an F6 tornado with wins from 320-the speed of sound, though it is said it is unlikely to occur.

The fujita scale, like with most science, is theorectical.

Anyway, Storm is a mutant who controls the weather with her mind. Her limit is not based on real world science, though real world science is used to limit her(pure hate).

I never said winds didn't get any faster. Like Symmetric Chaos said, there was a natural limit to what kind of damage the strongest known tornadoes have been witnessed to have caused.

And, you're trying to put some merit in all your Storm hyperbole using "real world science", but when we argue against it using the same tactic, it's pure hate? Your logic fails miserably.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In science they are completely different things.

You didnt support this statement at all. FAIL✅

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The scale up to F5 is actually based off of something (damage). Beyond that it is nothing but Fujita's conjecture.

Something INDIRECT. Which makes it a theory of how much wind it would actually take which involves conjecture.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Again, this has nothing to do with Storm.

Yes it does.

On here and in here handbook, science, namely fujitac scale, is used to say that her winds max out at a certain point(300 or so mph).

As it turns out, these figures are based off an estimate of something indirect--damage.

The scale is open...

Storms limit with regard to winds is open....

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

That Fujita Scale is a panel from Marvel Comics?

Fail 🙄

No, but her flying from Central australia to Tasmania in a few minutes(maybe less) is canon.

Her creating winds to fly as fast as only jets in canon.

Her flying a plane under her own winds as a child in canon.

Her keeping up with a 747 and then landing the plane with winds is canon.

Her winds supporting 300 tons of flaming steel is canon.

Her suspending a multistory building in mid-air with winds is canon.

It's open to interpretaion.

Frankly, I don't think her winds max out at 300 mph. Anyone with sense would know that. 🙄

Off topic but HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Yes it does.

On here and in here handbook, science, namely fujitac scale, is used to say that her winds max out at a certain point(300 or so mph).

As it turns out, these figures are based off an estimate of something indirect--damage.

Must you contradict yourself from post to post?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The scale is open...

Storms limit with regard to winds is open....

Two completely unrelated things?

That's really just dumb, really not trying to bash but if you see a connection between an arbitrarily scale in the real world and magic/psionic powers in a comicbook character you are (the the very least) extremely foolish or failing miserably as a troll.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
No, but her flying from Central australia to Tasmania in a few minutes(maybe less) is canon.

Her creating winds to fly as fast as only jets in canon.

Her flying a plane under her own winds as a child in canon.

Her keeping up with a 747 and then landing the plane with winds is canon.

Her winds supporting 300 tons of flaming steel is canon.

Her suspending a multistory building in mid-air with winds is canon.

Red herring. Fail.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Frankly, I don't think her winds max out at 300 mph. Anyone with sense would know that. 🙄

I agree. Nonetheless I don't see her hitting Mach speeds.

Originally posted by Badabing
Off topic but HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!

OFF TOPIC!!!!!!!

BURN!!! 😠

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

I agree. Nonetheless I don't see her hitting Mach speeds. [/B]

At least you see my point. 🙄

Why wouldn;t she "hit mach speeds"?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
OFF TOPIC!!!!!!!

BURN!!! 😠

🙁 I just warned myself.

I as wondering if Enhantress can influence a female with as much effect as she can a male?

Originally posted by Badabing
🙁 I just warned myself.

I as wondering if Enhantress can influence a female with as much effect as she can a male?

Storm is married schmoll

I'm sure those herbs have some side effects they can't elaborate on in comics.

Spoiler:
LIKE GIVING HIM A HUGE WANG!!!!!!!

For those of you 13 and under a wang is just part of a chicken.

I doubt she'd be able to do anything to Storm's mind.

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Subduing Psylock, a powerful TP at the time.

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Originally posted by 2damnloud
I doubt she'd be able to do anything to Storm's mind.

http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=resistst1.png
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=resist2zp9.png

Subduing Psylock, a powerful TP at the time.

http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=resist3zi2.png

Exactly who do you think is capable of beating the mighty storm if I may ask.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Exactly who do you think is capable of beating the mighty storm if I may ask.

Phoenix
Galactus
LT
Strange(maybe 😕 )
Most abstracts,really
reality warpers
Silver Surfer
Superman?
WW?
Flash?
some more.

It sounds like either one could just shoot the other.

Originally posted by Rutog98
I can't help it if we have more sense than the rest of you. 😉

Moments before that post you had just openly admitted you didn't know what the other character could do before you made your decision.

Obviously Storm gets wtfpwned, especially cause Amora just made her return in Thor 5. Which means new feats and higher power levels. The Asgardians are being put on a high tier. 😈